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Woodznutz
Seriously? You actually posted that you believe white people made Marquette Park better and that black people, left to their own devices, were incapable - not that they made bad choices but that they were incapable - of maintaining it without white people to lead the way? Amazing.
No. Read carefully to what I write and try to respond to what I write. And this is an issue because like JoeB131 and Lisa558 you need to improve your reading skills.
I've been on USMB five years now and wrote over 5 thousand posts and I've come to realize that sometimes people DON'T WANT TO understand what is being said, as it might require them to take responsibility and do something. In fact, sometimes it seems the clearer I am and the more obvious the issue, the more people act like I’m speaking a different language they can’t understand.
Look - A ghetto isn't a a free-standing cultural space, the ghetto is a creation of political and economic elites who sought to restrict black residential mobility to the urban core, even as whites were being subsidized to move to the suburbs.
The ghetto is not the product of the people who live there, but those who don’t.
Woodznutz
You know, after slavery was ended, after the Civil War, there were a lot of blacks that chose to stay on the plantations and serve the very masters who had owned them just a few years before. They were actually happier being subjugated than being equal. You would have stayed on the plantation.
Of course there were some blk people who wanted to stay with "Massa" There were some Stephen from Django types
There were black slave owners in the South, and what of it? American slavery was a racist institution because it subordinated people based on racial identity, and was predicated on the notion of black inhumanity and white supremacy.
That there were some black people who bought into both sets of lies does not acquit the institution of the charge of racism, nor those among the African American community who participated in it.
So too, that there are blk ppl who are just as anti-black in their thinking as many whites, pathetic though it may be, means nothing.................and truthfully, should surprise no one.
And the blk ppl you describe were outnumbered by the blk people who had a "Freedom or Death" mentality and wanted to kill or be free of "massa"
Woodznutz
Those events are older than anyone in my family. I didn't do it and neither did anyone in my family.
OK, Your just repeating an argument JoeB131 has said before and one which I answered before
Woodznutz
It was and is terrible that those things happened but there has been a huge change in attitudes and laws since then. You need to try to give America a chance.
There is has been no change in attitudes.
Beliefs about black people
- Abraham Lincoln in 1849 : less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control
- White Supremacists in 2022 : less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control
Woodznutz
Or you can whine about things that happened before your time by people who aren't alive today. In your mind, there will never, ever, be a time when America moves on - at least not when you move on.
When will blacks “move on”? When whites get over their racism and move on. They created it to excuse their crimes; they can also destroy it.
Woodznutz
You say over and over again that you're a conservative but you are not. When have you voted Republican? When have you voted for any of those things you list as conservative that would help black Americans? Trump or Biden? Trump or Hillary?
I am conservative.
Woodznutz
The most important conservative value you didn't mention: personal responsibility and accountability. Yes, bad things happened to black people in the past.
Woodznutz
You can cry and scream and complain forever or you can change your future and the future of your progeny.
Why do people in here always wanna talk about blk ppl's feelings ? Crying and screaming ? What are you on about ?
Read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind
For any other social issue – eg: domestic violence, drunk driving, etc. – the issue itself gets discussed.
Imagine how absurd it would be if I said we need to find ways to address child abuse and my audience responded with “Well you can cry and scream forever or you can change your future and the future of your program.”
Woodznutz
But you don't want to work to end the lack of generational wealth in the black community or even your own family; you just want to play the litigation lottery.
Again - You're putting words in my mouth. Read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind.
Woodznutz
You don't really care at all about black people or the black communities or you would be promoting doing what they can do now, what they can do for themselves in today's world, even while waiting for the jackpot to come through.
You're putting words in my mouth. Read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind.
Woodznutz
Instead, you spend your time here, telling white people how much you hate them and how they're all evil.
Again - You're putting words in my mouth.
Woodznutz
Why aren't you spending your time working to help black people pick themselves up. Why aren't you spending your time leading marches of law-abiding inner city people, all hours of day and night, to take back their streets?
So black people are 100% responsible for cleaning up your mess ?
OK. Got it.
If whites were willing to stand up and condemn the racism in your community - perhaps blks wouldn’t have to be the ones leading the rally. .
But most whites do nothing in the face of racism.
Most don’t speak up, don’t talk back, don’t challenge family, friends, colleagues, or anyone else.
It's white silence that has always made racism possible.
If whites had, in larger numbers challenged white supremacy, there is no way that such a system could have been maintained.
There is no way that racist persons would be able to spew their venom without fear of reprisal, in most cases. They would know that racist actions would be met forcefully, and that those engaging in such things would be ostracized.
But white silence and inaction has given strength to the racists, whether on radio or in corporate offices, or government positions, or police uniforms.
It has emboldened them to act out, since they have long had little reason to believe anything would happen.
Most of what you posted in that wasn't worth responding to. You have your opinion, or perhaps your lies, and I have mine - opinion and, perhaps from your view, lies.@Woodznutz
Why aren't you spending your time working to help black people pick themselves up. Why aren't you spending your time leading marches of law-abiding inner city people, all hours of day and night, to take back their streets?
So black people are 100% responsible for cleaning up your mess ?
You're lying. Blacks can move anywhere they want to. Just like Latinos, Indians and Asians.AZrailwhale
Paul, ghettos are not a black institution.
I never said they were. Once again you are not reading what I’m writing.
AZrailwhale
All the poor have lived in ghettos over the years.
I never said they haven’t.
AZrailwhale
No one is keeping blacks, even poor blacks in the ghettos.
The system of white supremacy makes sure to keep blk ppl in the most economically deprived areas
AZrailwhale
They are free to move anywhere.
The system of white supremacy makes sure to keep blk ppl in the most economically deprived areas
Look - A ghetto isn't a a free-standing cultural space, the ghetto is a creation of political and economic elites who sought to restrict black residential mobility to the urban core, even as whites were being subsidized to move to the suburbs.
The ghetto is not the product of the people who live there, but those who don’t.
Beliefs about black people
- Abraham Lincoln in 1849 : less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control
- White Supremacists in 2022 : less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control
It's white silence that has always made racism possible.
If whites had, in larger numbers challenged white supremacy, there is no way that such a system could have been maintained.
There is no way that racist persons would be able to spew their venom without fear of reprisal, in most cases. They would know that racist actions would be met forcefully, and that those engaging in such things would be ostracized.
No, it's called racism.You know what you call racism is what we call standards and a belief in maintaining civilization. We believe in laws and rules. It is necessary to maintain a first world society.
You can't be going around raping, killing and screwing up institutions and expect society to accept you. Racism we show you is really just us wanting better then the crap house and joke that you aim to turn our society into.
What you say is what you have done to us. Racism is a mental disorder and your posts are examples of it.The more you make our lives hell and don't agree to work within our legal system the more racist we will be too you. That is how we tell you that we don't like what you're doing.
Because they are also minorities and face the same claimed racism that you claim you do. And yes blacks can move and live anywhere they want to.AZrailwhale
You're lying.
Lying about what ?
AZrailwhale
Blacks can move anywhere they want to.
No. You said that I said "Black can't move anywhere they want"
Don't put words in my mouth,
AZrailwhale
Just like Latinos, Indians and Asians.
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I'm not Asian. I'm not Indian. I'm not Latino
They have nothing to do with black people. So why the fk are you bring them up ?
Show me an example of anywhere a black person can legally be stopped from moving to. There aren’t any.AZrailwhale
Because they are also minorities and face the same claimed racism that you claim you do.
Asian and Latinos are fine with racism just as long as it’s aimed at blk ppl.
It’s the world against blk ppl.
AZrailwhale
And yes blacks can move and live anywhere they want to.
You’re saying that. Not me.
There is your problem right there: “It’s the world against BLM ppl”. As long as you believe that you will never succeed. It’s a paranoid belief that has no basis in reality.AZrailwhale
Because they are also minorities and face the same claimed racism that you claim you do.
Asian and Latinos are fine with racism just as long as it’s aimed at blk ppl.
It’s the world against blk ppl.
AZrailwhale
And yes blacks can move and live anywhere they want to.
You’re saying that. Not me.
They don't have to legally say "No blacks in this area" because they take it off the books and they practice racism white supremacy in common law. They can hide it because the white supremacists are on code.Show me an example of anywhere a black person can legally be stopped from moving to. There aren’t any.
