Woodznutz
Seriously? You actually posted that you believe white people made Marquette Park better and that black people, left to their own devices, were incapable - not that they made bad choices but that they were incapable - of maintaining it without white people to lead the way? Amazing.
No. Read carefully to what I write and try to respond to what I write. And this is an issue because like
JoeB131 and
Lisa558 you need to improve your reading skills.
I've been on USMB five years now and wrote over 5 thousand posts and I've come to realize that sometimes people
DON'T WANT TO understand what is being said, as it might require them to take responsibility and do something. In fact, sometimes it seems the clearer I am and the more obvious the issue, the more people act like I’m speaking a different language they can’t understand.
Look - A ghetto isn't a a free-standing cultural space, the ghetto is a creation of political and economic elites who sought to restrict black residential mobility to the urban core, even as whites were being subsidized to move to the suburbs.
The ghetto is not the product of the people who live there, but those who don’t.
Woodznutz
You know, after slavery was ended, after the Civil War, there were a lot of blacks that chose to stay on the plantations and serve the very masters who had owned them just a few years before. They were actually happier being subjugated than being equal. You would have stayed on the plantation.
Of course there were some blk people who wanted to stay with "
Massa" but they were outnumbered by the blk people who had a "
Freedom or Death" mentality and wanted to kill or be free of "
massa"
Woodznutz
Those events are older than anyone in my family. I didn't do it and neither did anyone in my family.
OK, Your just repeating an argument
JoeB131 has said before and one which I answered
before
Woodznutz
It was and is terrible that those things happened but there has been a huge change in attitudes and laws since then. You need to try to give America a chance.
There is has been no change in attitudes.
Beliefs about black people
- Abraham Lincoln in 1849 : less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control
- White Supremacists in 2022 : less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control
Woodznutz
Or you can whine about things that happened before your time by people who aren't alive today. In your mind, there will never, ever, be a time when America moves on - at least not when you move on.
When will blacks “
move on”? When whites get over their racism and move on. They created it to excuse their crimes; they can also destroy it.
Woodznutz
You say over and over again that you're a conservative but you are not. When have you voted Republican? When have you voted for any of those things you list as conservative that would help black Americans? Trump or Biden? Trump or Hillary?
I am conservative.
Woodznutz
The most important conservative value you didn't mention: personal responsibility and accountability. Yes, bad things happened to black people in the past.
Woodznutz
You can cry and scream and complain forever or you can change your future and the future of your progeny.
Why do people in here always wanna talk about blk ppl's feelings ? Crying and screaming ? What are you on about ?
Read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind
For any other social issue – eg: domestic violence, drunk driving, etc. –
the issue itself gets discussed.
Imagine how absurd it would be if I said we need to find ways to address child abuse and my audience responded with
“Well you can cry and scream forever or you can change your future and the future of your program.”
Woodznutz
But you don't want to work to end the lack of generational wealth in the black community or even your own family; you just want to play the litigation lottery.
Again - You're putting words in my mouth. Read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind.
Woodznutz
You don't really care at all about black people or the black communities or you would be promoting doing what they can do now, what they can do for themselves in today's world, even while waiting for the jackpot to come through.
You're putting words in my mouth. Read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind.
Woodznutz
I
nstead, you spend your time here, telling white people how much you hate them and how they're all evil.
Again - You're putting words in my mouth.
Woodznutz
Why aren't you spending your time working to help black people pick themselves up. Why aren't you spending your time leading marches of law-abiding inner city people, all hours of day and night, to take back their streets?
So black people are 100% responsible for cleaning up your mess ?
OK. Got it.
If whites were willing to stand up and condemn the racism in your community - perhaps blks wouldn’t have to be the ones leading the rally. .
But most whites do nothing in the face of racism.
Most don’t speak up, don’t talk back, don’t challenge family, friends, colleagues, or anyone else.
It's white silence that has always made racism possible.
If whites had, in larger numbers challenged white supremacy, there is no way that such a system could have been maintained.
There is no way that racist persons would be able to spew their venom without fear of reprisal, in most cases. They would know that racist actions would be met forcefully, and that those engaging in such things would be ostracized.
But white silence and inaction has given strength to the racists, whether on radio or in corporate offices, or government positions, or police uniforms.
It has emboldened them to act out, since they have long had little reason to believe anything would happen.
