White House Background Outline on Rebuttal Letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s Impeachment Effort…

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Here is the letter reply to Speaker Pelosi's absurd one sided unprecedented INVALID impeachment try:

The Last Refuge

October 8, 2019

Sundance

White House Background Outline on Rebuttal Letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s Impeachment Effort…

Excerpt:

"Earlier today the White House held a background Q&A with reporters to discuss the letter they sent to Speaker Nancy Pelosi. [You can find additional CTH information HERE]

[Transcript] – MR. GIDLEY: Thank you so much everyone. We appreciate you joining the call. This is a background briefing regarding the letter to the House Representatives. Keep in mind that this call is attributable to a senior administration official, so on background only. It is also embargoed until the conclusion of the call.

With that, I’m going to turn it over to [a senior administration official] to give you a brief overview of the letter. And then I have [senior administration officials] to answer questions after the presentation.

So, with that, I’m going to turn it over to [senior administration official].


SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Thank you, Hogan. Thank you everyone for being on the call. Today, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone sent a letter to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, and to the chairmen of the Foreign Affairs, Intelligence, and Oversight and Reform committees of the House of Representatives, explaining the President’s and the administration’s position with respect to recent requests for information in connection with what the House has characterized as an impeachment inquiry. And the letter explains that there are legal and constitutional flaws that make what has been labeled a so-called “impeachment inquiry” invalid as a constitutional matter."

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The Letter is in the link, or LOOK HERE

This latest leftist attempt to overthrow a legally elected President will gravely damage them. The President presents a valid reason to ignore so called Subpoenas, as they are invalidated by their willful breaking of proper Impeachment process.
 
Of course, the Constitution doesn’t actually require any sort of formal proceedings for impeachment until the eventual vote comes. But count Cipollone and the White House as wholly unmoved by the strictures of the U.S. Constitution. Their letter argues that “all past bipartisan precedent” on impeachment are being violated.

‘Middle Finger to Congress’: Legal Experts React to White House Letter Decrying Impeachment Inquiry
You cannot have an impeachment vote without recommendations for indictment from a Special Counsel Investigation.

Mueller had none.

Without that you cannot have an impeachment vote or write up articles of impeachment. What would you base it on? Orange Man Bad?

The White House should hire a printer to take images of the fake subpoenas and requests for information and turn them in to toilet paper.

The House is a legislative branch, and not an investigative body. They cannot become an investigative body until they have a vote legislatively giving the majority and minority parties powers to engage in investigatory actions.

All of these committees by the way have Zero Power.

The White House is completely within it's rights to reject anything and everything any one of these committees requests of them.
 
You cannot have an impeachment vote without recommendations for indictment from a Special Counsel Investigation.

Without that you cannot have an impeachment vote or write up articles of impeachment


Why? Is there something in the constitution that requires that? If so where is it?

The House is a legislative branch, and not an investigative body. They cannot become an investigative body until they have a vote legislatively

Republicans changed the rules to allow all chairmen of the committees to have subpoena power. So it is not necessary to grant themselves that power. Remember ignoring a subpoena is an impeachable offense in itself.
 
Of course, the Constitution doesn’t actually require any sort of formal proceedings for impeachment until the eventual vote comes. But count Cipollone and the White House as wholly unmoved by the strictures of the U.S. Constitution. Their letter argues that “all past bipartisan precedent” on impeachment are being violated.

‘Middle Finger to Congress’: Legal Experts React to White House Letter Decrying Impeachment Inquiry
You cannot have an impeachment vote without recommendations for indictment from a Special Counsel Investigation.

Mueller had none.

Without that you cannot have an impeachment vote or write up articles of impeachment. What would you base it on? Orange Man Bad?

The White House should hire a printer to take images of the fake subpoenas and requests for information and turn them in to toilet paper.

The House is a legislative branch, and not an investigative body. They cannot become an investigative body until they have a vote legislatively giving the majority and minority parties powers to engage in investigatory actions.

All of these committees by the way have Zero Power.

The White House is completely within it's rights to reject anything and everything any one of these committees requests of them.
The only thing the house needs to impeach is VOTES. Nothing more.

So, he can tell them to fuck off and they can just vote to impeach, then he will get his day in court in the Senate.

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Of course, the Constitution doesn’t actually require any sort of formal proceedings for impeachment until the eventual vote comes. But count Cipollone and the White House as wholly unmoved by the strictures of the U.S. Constitution. Their letter argues that “all past bipartisan precedent” on impeachment are being violated.

‘Middle Finger to Congress’: Legal Experts React to White House Letter Decrying Impeachment Inquiry

I KNOW you didn't read the letter with legal and historical footnotes backing up their complaint, it must be your well known partisanship virus preventing you from being rational and intelligent, which is why you instead post a counterpoint to a letter THEY never truly read either, from YOUR link is this telling statement:

"UC Berkeley Law Professor Orin Kerr responded to the news by posting the third article of impeachment filed by the House against then-president Richard Nixon in 1974.

That article alleged Nixon “failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives.” Later on the article clarifies why that’s important:

The subpoenaed papers and things were deemed necessary by the Committee in order to resolve by direct evidence fundamental, factual questions relating to Presidential direction, knowledge or approval of actions demonstrated by other evidence to be substantial grounds for impeachment of the President. In refusing to produce these papers and things Richard M. Nixon, substituting his judgment as to what materials were necessary for the inquiry, interposed the powers of the Presidency against the the lawful subpoenas of the House of Representatives, thereby assuming to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the sole power of impeachment vested by the Constitution in the House of Representatives.

And, without putting too fine a point on it, Kerr later followed up by claiming that America is “now” in “a constitutional crisis.”

bolding mine


The Subpoenas were issued by the Full Judiciary committee.............., that is why they were valid and had enforcement power.

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Your link shot itself in the foot when they stated this:

Notably, the House has not initiated formal impeachment proceedings. Law&Crime previously explained the upshot of this detail when Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) announced an impeachment inquiry without convening a separate committee on impeachment.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from, there is no actual committee existing to issue them as they were against Nixon, when the JUDICIARY committee was involved.

Then we have THIS to ponder:

"But count Cipollone and the White House as wholly unmoved by the strictures of the U.S. Constitution. Their letter argues that “all past bipartisan precedent” on impeachment are being violated.

And, in a sense, that’s true.

CNN legal analyst, attorney and impeachment expert Ross Garber explained via email:

This letter is clearly written for the President’s base. But there are also outlines of an argument that might also appeal to those who might be persuadable: that the process isn’t a fair and thorough way to get at the truth. The White House Counsel is right that previous House presidential impeachment processes have given the president and minority party rights to participate. In both Nixon and Clinton, the President had the right to attend all hearings, present evidence, and cross-examine witnesses. In both of those impeachments, the minority and majority parties cooperated on issuing subpoenas."

red bolding mine

That is why you guys look stupid here, thinking Nancy can just send any subpoena she wants against anyone, from her little purse. She thinks her Kangaroo court will survive Supreme Court examination, a true sign of extreme delusions, she needs to retire and drop her stupid partisan hate.
 
That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.
The Dim Tards Dem Nazi Stormtroopers and their Fake Powerless Committees can't do JACK SHIT, because they are not authorized to DO JACK SHIT even. Without an Impeachment Vote AUTHORIZING THEM WITH SUCH POWERS to conduct an IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, they should get nothing but The Middle Finger.

Sucks to be a left tard, and hopeless.
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That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.
The Dim Tards Dem Nazi Stormtroopers and their Fake Powerless Committees can't do JACK SHIT, because they are not authorized to DO JACK SHIT even. Without an Impeachment Vote AUTHORIZING THEM WITH SUCH POWERS to conduct an IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, they should get nothing but The Middle Finger.

Sucks to be a left tard, and hopeless.

We will see how powerless their subpoenas are in the next few weeks I'll guess.
 
That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.

No it was PELOSI who made that rule and several others recently to create this one sided kangaroo court, it is WHY is will fail, this was talked about here recently from The Last Refuge,

BIG PICTURE – White House Responds to Speaker Pelosi Unconstitutional Impeachment Effort – (Full pdf and background)…

Excerpt:

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her Lawfare allies can change House rules (they did). Pelosi and Lawfare can also change House impeachment rules (they did). Pelosi/Lawfare can change committee rules (they did); and in doing so they can remove House republicans from the entire process… Which They Did......."

LINK

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Stop hiding your head in the sand!
 
That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.

No it was PELOSI who made that rule and several others recently to create this one sided kangaroo court, it is WHY is will fail, this was talked about here recently from The Last Refuge,

BIG PICTURE – White House Responds to Speaker Pelosi Unconstitutional Impeachment Effort – (Full pdf and background)…

Excerpt:

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her Lawfare allies can change House rules (they did). Pelosi and Lawfare can also change House impeachment rules (they did). Pelosi/Lawfare can change committee rules (they did); and in doing so they can remove House republicans from the entire process… Which They Did......."

LINK

==============================

Stop hiding your head in the sand!



Of course the Dems opposed the change. Regardless of that fact, they already have subpoena power thanks to the Republicans.


2015

In January, Republicans moved to give a number of key committees, including the Energy and Commerce Committee, the Judiciary Committee and the Financial Services Committee new subpoena powers. A handful of other committees also considered changing their governing rules.

For a number of panels, rule change would eliminate long-standing requirements that the chairmen either consult or get consent from the minority party before issuing subpoenas for testimony and documents or hold a majority vote. The committees who saw rule changes include panels with oversight into controversial Obama policies like the Dodd-Frank financial regulations law, immigration and Obamacare.

“This year House Republicans are changing the rules to give some chairmen unfettered authority to issue subpoenas unilaterally, adopting an abusive model embraced only by Senator Joe McCarthy, former Rep. Dan Burton, and Rep. Darrell Issa,” the lawmakers wrote. “To their credit, some well-functioning committees, such as the Committees on Appropriations, Armed Services, Intelligence, and Veterans Affairs, did not expand subpoena power for their chairmen.”

Dems blast House GOP subpoena rules change
 
That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.

No it was PELOSI who made that rule and several others recently to create this one sided kangaroo court, it is WHY is will fail, this was talked about here recently from The Last Refuge,

BIG PICTURE – White House Responds to Speaker Pelosi Unconstitutional Impeachment Effort – (Full pdf and background)…

Excerpt:

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her Lawfare allies can change House rules (they did). Pelosi and Lawfare can also change House impeachment rules (they did). Pelosi/Lawfare can change committee rules (they did); and in doing so they can remove House republicans from the entire process… Which They Did......."

LINK

==============================

Stop hiding your head in the sand!



Of course the Dems opposed the change. Regardless of that fact, they already have subpoena power thanks to the Republicans.


2015

In January, Republicans moved to give a number of key committees, including the Energy and Commerce Committee, the Judiciary Committee and the Financial Services Committee new subpoena powers. A handful of other committees also considered changing their governing rules.

For a number of panels, rule change would eliminate long-standing requirements that the chairmen either consult or get consent from the minority party before issuing subpoenas for testimony and documents or hold a majority vote. The committees who saw rule changes include panels with oversight into controversial Obama policies like the Dodd-Frank financial regulations law, immigration and Obamacare.

“This year House Republicans are changing the rules to give some chairmen unfettered authority to issue subpoenas unilaterally, adopting an abusive model embraced only by Senator Joe McCarthy, former Rep. Dan Burton, and Rep. Darrell Issa,” the lawmakers wrote. “To their credit, some well-functioning committees, such as the Committees on Appropriations, Armed Services, Intelligence, and Veterans Affairs, did not expand subpoena power for their chairmen.”

Dems blast House GOP subpoena rules change

It is clear you didn't follow my three links earlier showing the rules changed by Pelosi:

January, 2019:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi Outlines New Rules for 116th Congressional Session – Includes Schedule for Process of Trump Impeachment…

and,

September 28, 2019:

Pelosi’s House Rule Changes are Key Part of “Articles of Impeachment”, Being Drafted Over Next Two Weeks…

"Back in December 2018 CTH noted the significant House rule changes constructed by Nancy Pelosi for the 116th congress seemed specifically geared toward impeachment. {Go Deep} With the House going into a scheduled calendar recess, those rules are now being used to subvert historic processes and construct the articles of impeachment."

and the result,

Pelosi House Rules for New Congressional Session 2019

===============================

The key paragraph:

"The House impeachment process generally proceeds in three phases: (1) initiation of the impeachment process; (2) Judiciary Committee investigation, hearings, and markup of articles of impeachment; and (3) full House consideration of the articles of impeachment"

Stop resisting the overwhelming evidence!
 
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That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.

No it was PELOSI who made that rule and several others recently to create this one sided kangaroo court, it is WHY is will fail, this was talked about here recently from The Last Refuge,

BIG PICTURE – White House Responds to Speaker Pelosi Unconstitutional Impeachment Effort – (Full pdf and background)…

Excerpt:

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her Lawfare allies can change House rules (they did). Pelosi and Lawfare can also change House impeachment rules (they did). Pelosi/Lawfare can change committee rules (they did); and in doing so they can remove House republicans from the entire process… Which They Did......."

LINK

==============================

Stop hiding your head in the sand!



Of course the Dems opposed the change. Regardless of that fact, they already have subpoena power thanks to the Republicans.


2015

In January, Republicans moved to give a number of key committees, including the Energy and Commerce Committee, the Judiciary Committee and the Financial Services Committee new subpoena powers. A handful of other committees also considered changing their governing rules.

For a number of panels, rule change would eliminate long-standing requirements that the chairmen either consult or get consent from the minority party before issuing subpoenas for testimony and documents or hold a majority vote. The committees who saw rule changes include panels with oversight into controversial Obama policies like the Dodd-Frank financial regulations law, immigration and Obamacare.

“This year House Republicans are changing the rules to give some chairmen unfettered authority to issue subpoenas unilaterally, adopting an abusive model embraced only by Senator Joe McCarthy, former Rep. Dan Burton, and Rep. Darrell Issa,” the lawmakers wrote. “To their credit, some well-functioning committees, such as the Committees on Appropriations, Armed Services, Intelligence, and Veterans Affairs, did not expand subpoena power for their chairmen.”

Dems blast House GOP subpoena rules change

It is clear you didn't follow my three links earlier showing the rules changed by Pelosi:

January, 2019:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi Outlines New Rules for 116th Congressional Session – Includes Schedule for Process of Trump Impeachment…

and,

September 28, 2019:

Pelosi’s House Rule Changes are Key Part of “Articles of Impeachment”, Being Drafted Over Next Two Weeks…

"Back in December 2018 CTH noted the significant House rule changes constructed by Nancy Pelosi for the 116th congress seemed specifically geared toward impeachment. {Go Deep} With the House going into a scheduled calendar recess, those rules are now being used to subvert historic processes and construct the articles of impeachment."

and the result,

Pelosi House Rules for New Congressional Session 2019

===============================

The key paragraph:

"The House impeachment process generally proceeds in three phases: (1) initiation of the impeachment process; (2) Judiciary Committee investigation, hearings, and markup of articles of impeachment; and (3) full House consideration of the articles of impeachment"

Stop resisting the overwhelming evidence!

Rules get changed with every change in the majority in both chambers of Congress. (Thanks for making me read that crap. Headdress? Really? fuuc) It still doesn't make the process they chose to initiate impeachment unconstitutional or their subpoenas invalid.
 
That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.
The Dim Tards Dem Nazi Stormtroopers and their Fake Powerless Committees can't do JACK SHIT, because they are not authorized to DO JACK SHIT even. Without an Impeachment Vote AUTHORIZING THEM WITH SUCH POWERS to conduct an IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, they should get nothing but The Middle Finger.

Sucks to be a left tard, and hopeless.

We will see how powerless their subpoenas are in the next few weeks I'll guess.
We are already seeing that now.

Has The Do Nothing Dem Lead Congress charged anyone in The State Department with "Obstruction of Congress"?

Nope. Instead they are sending letters and making threatening phone calls, and whining about their plans being blown out of the water by President Trump's revealing the actual transcripts of the actual call.

Obstruction of CONGRESS?

Laughable since Obstruction of Congress cannot actually occur when they have FECAL IMPACTMENT already and have gotted Nothing done since Nazi Pelosi took the Helm.

BTW, why exactly should The American People allow this bitch to become president without ever actually being elected? Yes, this is what she is attempting to do.
 
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That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.
The Dim Tards Dem Nazi Stormtroopers and their Fake Powerless Committees can't do JACK SHIT, because they are not authorized to DO JACK SHIT even. Without an Impeachment Vote AUTHORIZING THEM WITH SUCH POWERS to conduct an IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, they should get nothing but The Middle Finger.

Sucks to be a left tard, and hopeless.

We will see how powerless their subpoenas are in the next few weeks I'll guess.
We are already seeing that now.

Has The Do Nothing Dem Lead Congress charged anyone in The State Department with "Obstruction of Congress"?

Nope. Instead they are sending letters and making threatening phone calls, and whining about their plans being blown out of the water by President Trump's revealing the actual transcripts of the actual call.

Obstruction of CONGRESS?

Laughable since Obstruction of Congress cannot actually occur when they have FECAL IMPACTMENT already and have gotted Nothing done since Nazi Pelosi took the Helm.

BTW, why exactly should The American People allow this bitch to become president without ever actually being elected? Yes, this is what she is attempting to do.
It's a do nothing Senate with Moscow Mitch, proudly self known, as the Grim Reeper, not bringing them to the floor!! :eek:

The House has been busy! Over 200 House passed Bills are sitting in the Senate that Mitch, the Moscow bitch, refuses to let our Senators vote on.
 
That is WHY they have no powers of Subpoena to draw from,

Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.
The Dim Tards Dem Nazi Stormtroopers and their Fake Powerless Committees can't do JACK SHIT, because they are not authorized to DO JACK SHIT even. Without an Impeachment Vote AUTHORIZING THEM WITH SUCH POWERS to conduct an IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, they should get nothing but The Middle Finger.

Sucks to be a left tard, and hopeless.

We will see how powerless their subpoenas are in the next few weeks I'll guess.
We are already seeing that now.

Has The Do Nothing Dem Lead Congress charged anyone in The State Department with "Obstruction of Congress"?

Nope. Instead they are sending letters and making threatening phone calls, and whining about their plans being blown out of the water by President Trump's revealing the actual transcripts of the actual call.

Obstruction of CONGRESS?

Laughable since Obstruction of Congress cannot actually occur when they have FECAL IMPACTMENT already and have gotted Nothing done since Nazi Pelosi took the Helm.

BTW, why exactly should The American People allow this bitch to become president without ever actually being elected? Yes, this is what she is attempting to do.
It's a do nothing Senate with Moscow Mitch, proudly self known, as the Grim Reeper, not bringing them to the floor!! :eek:

The House has been busy! Over 200 House passed Bills are sitting in the Senate that Mitch, the Moscow bitch, refuses to let our Senators vote on.
If it weren't for The Senate nothing at all would get done. And No House Legislation that violates our Constitutional Rights should ever be voted on in The Senate. They are the only thing keeping us from a full blown Marxist, Godless Totalitarian State. The Dems have done nothing, and will accomplish nothing in the Next Year either.
 
Republicans changed that rule and the committees have subpoena power already. I say take that letter to court and use it, please.
The Dim Tards Dem Nazi Stormtroopers and their Fake Powerless Committees can't do JACK SHIT, because they are not authorized to DO JACK SHIT even. Without an Impeachment Vote AUTHORIZING THEM WITH SUCH POWERS to conduct an IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, they should get nothing but The Middle Finger.

Sucks to be a left tard, and hopeless.

We will see how powerless their subpoenas are in the next few weeks I'll guess.
We are already seeing that now.

Has The Do Nothing Dem Lead Congress charged anyone in The State Department with "Obstruction of Congress"?

Nope. Instead they are sending letters and making threatening phone calls, and whining about their plans being blown out of the water by President Trump's revealing the actual transcripts of the actual call.

Obstruction of CONGRESS?

Laughable since Obstruction of Congress cannot actually occur when they have FECAL IMPACTMENT already and have gotted Nothing done since Nazi Pelosi took the Helm.

BTW, why exactly should The American People allow this bitch to become president without ever actually being elected? Yes, this is what she is attempting to do.
It's a do nothing Senate with Moscow Mitch, proudly self known, as the Grim Reeper, not bringing them to the floor!! :eek:

The House has been busy! Over 200 House passed Bills are sitting in the Senate that Mitch, the Moscow bitch, refuses to let our Senators vote on.
If it weren't for The Senate nothing at all would get done. And No House Legislation that violates our Constitutional Rights should ever be voted on in The Senate. They are the only thing keeping us from a full blown Marxist, Godless Totalitarian State. The Dems have done nothing, and will accomplish nothing in the Next Year either.
blah blah blah blah blah BS! :)

What's Mitch afraid of if he lets Senators vote on them, R's have the majority!

He's afraid that the bills have bi partisan support and WILL PASS!

He can't let Pelosi, get any wins!!! :rolleyes:
 
The Dim Tards Dem Nazi Stormtroopers and their Fake Powerless Committees can't do JACK SHIT, because they are not authorized to DO JACK SHIT even. Without an Impeachment Vote AUTHORIZING THEM WITH SUCH POWERS to conduct an IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, they should get nothing but The Middle Finger.

Sucks to be a left tard, and hopeless.

We will see how powerless their subpoenas are in the next few weeks I'll guess.
We are already seeing that now.

Has The Do Nothing Dem Lead Congress charged anyone in The State Department with "Obstruction of Congress"?

Nope. Instead they are sending letters and making threatening phone calls, and whining about their plans being blown out of the water by President Trump's revealing the actual transcripts of the actual call.

Obstruction of CONGRESS?

Laughable since Obstruction of Congress cannot actually occur when they have FECAL IMPACTMENT already and have gotted Nothing done since Nazi Pelosi took the Helm.

BTW, why exactly should The American People allow this bitch to become president without ever actually being elected? Yes, this is what she is attempting to do.
It's a do nothing Senate with Moscow Mitch, proudly self known, as the Grim Reeper, not bringing them to the floor!! :eek:

The House has been busy! Over 200 House passed Bills are sitting in the Senate that Mitch, the Moscow bitch, refuses to let our Senators vote on.
If it weren't for The Senate nothing at all would get done. And No House Legislation that violates our Constitutional Rights should ever be voted on in The Senate. They are the only thing keeping us from a full blown Marxist, Godless Totalitarian State. The Dems have done nothing, and will accomplish nothing in the Next Year either.
blah blah blah blah blah BS! :)

What's Mitch afraid of if he lets Senators vote on them, R's have the majority!

He's afraid that the bills have bi partisan support and WILL PASS!

He can't let Pelosi, get any wins!!! :rolleyes:
You didn't get spanked very often did you?

Pelosi is not running for Election for President. She is trying to continue the COUP to get herself installed as an Un-Elected President.

The Orange Menace always throws a Monkey Wrench in The Plans of Evil Doers
 

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