While the country is focused on Healthcare and Collusion, sneaky GOP cuts minimum wage

[Toddsterpatriot]

I suggest everyone get back in school and learn some kind of trade. I also suggest it's one a robot will unlikely be able to do. The truth is although it's hard if not impossible to make it on such a low minimum wage, if workers push for too high of an increase, technology will take their job altogether. This is coming regardless folks so better get educated and get with the program.

That's an idea the Democrats have had for like, forever.

Trump budget proposes 40% cut to job training programs

Sorry, no jobs programs under the GOP's "F*ck America First" programs and policies.

Told you they are awful. How much proof do you need?

You and I agree on this one. I believe education is the key to everything. I think all receiving entitlements should be required to learn a trade. It only makes sense because we simply can't keep supporting people forever. Trump has always advocated for education as well, don't know why he would change at this point but if he has, he needs to get back on track with that. Another thing that should happen is Congress should change the requirements for pell grants and allow certificate programs as well but only if they are in vocations that are in high demand.

"Give a man a fish you feed him for a day but teach a man to fish and you feed him for life."
SO TRUE!

Give a man a fish and you are a liberal Democrat crippling people and buying votes give a man a fishing rod and you are a heroic Republican

Give me a break. All that Republicans give is heartbreak and disaster.

Not if you're rich. And I mean really rich because even someone making $150K a year, imo, is being fucked by Republicans too. For example, how much interest are they giving on savings accounts? 5%? 1%? Not even 1%? That tells me they don't want us common folk saving anything. Put it in a 401K they say so when they decide to they can crash the market and take back half your gains.

And if they cut social security 30%, which they will try to do, then they are screwing with those people's retirement too. And my Republican governor raised taxes on seniors. Young people didn't notice because they aren't old, YET!

The American people deserve it though because they vote for it. Or worse they don't show up to vote.

For example, how much interest are they giving on savings accounts?

If you're saving in a savings account, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Mr Natural]

"Prosperity Through Lower Wages!"

 

[danielpalos]

Agreed. Too soon. And I can't cry when Republicans pass Republican legislation. Elections have consequences. I'll just laugh at poor people when Republicans do things like lower minimum wage and cut welfare.

I hope their ideology proves to work but trickle down doesn't work.

Not for the masses anyways. It might work for me I hope.

Do you really think Republicans gather in secret meetings and laugh at poor people?

Not in secret anymore they seem to be loud and proud about it. But now Trump pretended to care so now lets see what Republicans do for the poor.

And I think you all laugh at the middle class too. My brother is rich and I hear how he justifies why HE makes $500K or more a year.

Ever go to Devos?

And they may not be laughing because they are dead serious. They know capitalism needs ditch diggers and poor people. They certainly don't want socialism or communism. Neither do we. We just want our fair share. Your idea of fair and our idea is different.

Take Unions for example. The rich didn't like them because they meant workers would make more money and that meant the company, shareholders and CEO's would make less. Class warfare does exist.

Yes rich don't like unions. They force them to fire American workers and hire Chinese workers . Do you understand ?

That doesn't make any sense. You need to try again.

It doesn't make sense to a liberal with a little mental capacity. The rich don't like unions. Unions raise costs and if a company wants to stay competitive and survive it often must move to China to stay competitive and to survive. Unions are the enemy of the rich and the workers, although unions that is American unionsare good friends with Chinese workers since American unions give Chinese workers a lot of new jobs.

Why bailout the big corporations? Why not, let them move to China so management can get pay raises and bigger bonuses.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans in several states are lowering the minimum wage — yes, you read that right

While journalists and political junkies are focused on the latest implosion of the GOP effort to repeal Obamacare and gut Medicaid, conservatives in several states have been working to decrease the minimum wage that businesses can pay to their workers.

In Missouri, Republicans just passed a law overturning a local measure passed by the city of St. Louis that had raised the minimum wage to $10 per hour.

Senate grinds to a halt as Republicans push local minimum wage ban through

The Republicans' hypocrisy on minimum wage

------------------------------------------

How Much Could I Receive? | Food and Nutrition Service

Say a mother of two is making 8 bucks an hour. That's around $1280 a month. Say she's single because her husband died and left her without any money. And out of that $1280 is rent and clothes and healthcare.

According to food stamp rules, she would get her income times .3 which would be subtracted from $511 which would come out to less than $130 a month.

There is one problem with that amount. Republicans think it is way too much.

Yea, the heartless bastards think that's way too much. That's today's GOP. They kneel at the alter of the Church of the Heartless Bastard. Far removed from Christ.

Right wingers vote them into office because they believe their lives aren't miserable enough.

And now, they think Putin, of all the evil people in the world, is a "great" leader. Because people in Russia are so happy.

Russia is a mess — the poverty rate is soaring and only 10 of 85 regions are financially stable

I suggest everyone get back in school and learn some kind of trade. I also suggest it's one a robot will unlikely be able to do. The truth is although it's hard if not impossible to make it on such a low minimum wage, if workers push for too high of an increase, technology will take their job altogether. This is coming regardless folks so better get educated and get with the program.

That's an idea the Democrats have had for like, forever.

Trump budget proposes 40% cut to job training programs

Sorry, no jobs programs under the GOP's "F*ck America First" programs and policies.

Told you they are awful. How much proof do you need?

You and I agree on this one. I believe education is the key to everything. I think all receiving entitlements should be required to learn a trade. It only makes sense because we simply can't keep supporting people forever. Trump has always advocated for education as well, don't know why he would change at this point but if he has, he needs to get back on track with that. Another thing that should happen is Congress should change the requirements for pell grants and allow certificate programs as well but only if they are in vocations that are in high demand.

"Give a man a fish you feed him for a day but teach a man to fish and you feed him for life."
SO TRUE!

Give a man a fish and you are a liberal Democrat crippling people and buying votes give a man a fishing rod and you are a heroic Republican

The right wing would be more credible, if they didn't catch so many red herrings with their "fishing work ethic".

 

[danielpalos]

"Prosperity Through Lower Wages!"

Let's start with management!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Republicans in several states are lowering the minimum wage — yes, you read that right

While journalists and political junkies are focused on the latest implosion of the GOP effort to repeal Obamacare and gut Medicaid, conservatives in several states have been working to decrease the minimum wage that businesses can pay to their workers.

In Missouri, Republicans just passed a law overturning a local measure passed by the city of St. Louis that had raised the minimum wage to $10 per hour.

Senate grinds to a halt as Republicans push local minimum wage ban through

The Republicans' hypocrisy on minimum wage

------------------------------------------

How Much Could I Receive? | Food and Nutrition Service

Say a mother of two is making 8 bucks an hour. That's around $1280 a month. Say she's single because her husband died and left her without any money. And out of that $1280 is rent and clothes and healthcare.

According to food stamp rules, she would get her income times .3 which would be subtracted from $511 which would come out to less than $130 a month.

There is one problem with that amount. Republicans think it is way too much.

Yea, the heartless bastards think that's way too much. That's today's GOP. They kneel at the alter of the Church of the Heartless Bastard. Far removed from Christ.

Right wingers vote them into office because they believe their lives aren't miserable enough.

And now, they think Putin, of all the evil people in the world, is a "great" leader. Because people in Russia are so happy.

Russia is a mess — the poverty rate is soaring and only 10 of 85 regions are financially stable

I suggest everyone get back in school and learn some kind of trade. I also suggest it's one a robot will unlikely be able to do. The truth is although it's hard if not impossible to make it on such a low minimum wage, if workers push for too high of an increase, technology will take their job altogether. This is coming regardless folks so better get educated and get with the program.

That's an idea the Democrats have had for like, forever.

Trump budget proposes 40% cut to job training programs

Sorry, no jobs programs under the GOP's "F*ck America First" programs and policies.

Told you they are awful. How much proof do you need?

You and I agree on this one. I believe education is the key to everything. I think all receiving entitlements should be required to learn a trade. It only makes sense because we simply can't keep supporting people forever. Trump has always advocated for education as well, don't know why he would change at this point but if he has, he needs to get back on track with that. Another thing that should happen is Congress should change the requirements for pell grants and allow certificate programs as well but only if they are in vocations that are in high demand.

"Give a man a fish you feed him for a day but teach a man to fish and you feed him for life."
SO TRUE!

Give a man a fish and you are a liberal Democrat crippling people and buying votes give a man a fishing rod and you are a heroic Republican

Give me a break. All that Republicans give is heartbreak and disaster.

Actually our founders were Republicans for very tiny government. As a liberal you're opposed to the basic principle of America and your ideas are in affect illegal in America Thanks to the constitution

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Do you really think Republicans gather in secret meetings and laugh at poor people?

Not in secret anymore they seem to be loud and proud about it. But now Trump pretended to care so now lets see what Republicans do for the poor.

And I think you all laugh at the middle class too. My brother is rich and I hear how he justifies why HE makes $500K or more a year.

Ever go to Devos?

And they may not be laughing because they are dead serious. They know capitalism needs ditch diggers and poor people. They certainly don't want socialism or communism. Neither do we. We just want our fair share. Your idea of fair and our idea is different.

Take Unions for example. The rich didn't like them because they meant workers would make more money and that meant the company, shareholders and CEO's would make less. Class warfare does exist.

Yes rich don't like unions. They force them to fire American workers and hire Chinese workers . Do you understand ?

That doesn't make any sense. You need to try again.

It doesn't make sense to a liberal with a little mental capacity. The rich don't like unions. Unions raise costs and if a company wants to stay competitive and survive it often must move to China to stay competitive and to survive. Unions are the enemy of the rich and the workers, although unions that is American unionsare good friends with Chinese workers since American unions give Chinese workers a lot of new jobs.

Well in the future, instead of always leaving to China, when the Chinese have had enough and the costs go up there, then the corporations will threaten China that if they don't give them more tax breaks, they'll pick up and move to Africa, or India or Mexico or whichever country is the newest country ready to drop it's pants and allow corporations to get away with not paying their fair share. No loyalty that's for sure.

You seem to forget we as consumers have power too. We should only buy American, for example. Right? You right wingers seem torn on this. Most of you are logical and it makes sense a business is going to go to the cheapest place. But then Trump lied when he said he was going to bring jobs back home. How is he going to do that? By giving them tax breaks and allowing them to pay $10 hr? Fuck those jobs.

You have learned 81 times the corporations don't pay their fair share. They pass on the corporate tax cost like all costs to their customers In the form of higher prices. Therefore the corporate tax should be illuminated it would give our corporations a huge incentive To stay in America and provide millions of jobs shall we go for number 82

 

[Mr Natural]

You have learned 81 times the corporations don't pay their fair share. They pass on the corporate tax cost like all costs to their customers In the form of higher prices. Therefore the corporate tax should be illuminated it would give our corporations a huge incentive To stay in America and provide millions of jobs shall we go for number 82

"illuminating" corporate taxes would do nothing to raise the cost of cheap foreign labor.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You have learned 81 times the corporations don't pay their fair share. They pass on the corporate tax cost like all costs to their customers In the form of higher prices. Therefore the corporate tax should be illuminated it would give our corporations a huge incentive To stay in America and provide millions of jobs shall we go for number 82

"illuminating" corporate taxes would do nothing to raise the cost of cheap foreign labor.

eliminating taxes on American corporations would lower the cost of American labor and make it more competitive with cheap foreign labor!! Do you understand?

 

[Mr Natural]

eliminating taxes on American corporations would lower the cost of American labor and make it more competitive with cheap foreign labor!! Do you understand?

More competitive yes, cheaper no.

Do you understand?

 

[OnePercenter]

Sixty-five percent of the United States economy is based on middle class spending. With predator employers keeping wages low the economy (at least for the middle class) isn't going to improve. Those predators need to be taught that a 50% net is unrealistic.

 

[OnePercenter]

You have learned 81 times the corporations don't pay their fair share. They pass on the corporate tax cost like all costs to their customers In the form of higher prices. Therefore the corporate tax should be illuminated it would give our corporations a huge incentive To stay in America and provide millions of jobs shall we go for number 82

"illuminating" corporate taxes would do nothing to raise the cost of cheap foreign labor.

eliminating taxes on American corporations would lower the cost of American labor and make it more competitive with cheap foreign labor!! Do you understand?

BULLSHIT!!! Lowering taxes would increase business net. A 1:1 tax credit on employee expenses would be a much better idea.

 

[OnePercenter]

Republicans in several states are lowering the minimum wage — yes, you read that right

While journalists and political junkies are focused on the latest implosion of the GOP effort to repeal Obamacare and gut Medicaid, conservatives in several states have been working to decrease the minimum wage that businesses can pay to their workers.

In Missouri, Republicans just passed a law overturning a local measure passed by the city of St. Louis that had raised the minimum wage to $10 per hour.

Senate grinds to a halt as Republicans push local minimum wage ban through

The Republicans' hypocrisy on minimum wage

------------------------------------------

How Much Could I Receive? | Food and Nutrition Service

Say a mother of two is making 8 bucks an hour. That's around $1280 a month. Say she's single because her husband died and left her without any money. And out of that $1280 is rent and clothes and healthcare.

According to food stamp rules, she would get her income times .3 which would be subtracted from $511 which would come out to less than $130 a month.

There is one problem with that amount. Republicans think it is way too much.

Yea, the heartless bastards think that's way too much. That's today's GOP. They kneel at the alter of the Church of the Heartless Bastard. Far removed from Christ.

Right wingers vote them into office because they believe their lives aren't miserable enough.

And now, they think Putin, of all the evil people in the world, is a "great" leader. Because people in Russia are so happy.

Russia is a mess — the poverty rate is soaring and only 10 of 85 regions are financially stable

It's the people's fault. I say lower minimum wage. The people who make minimum wage don't vote. They are realizing elections have consequences

Punish people who make minimum wage because they aren't punished enough? Really?

I see the goop's side of this. There are situations where the kid should only be getting $5 hr. The putt putt golf coarse kid or batting cage kid.

Anyways, why didn't these poor people show up for Hillary? So now they're going to realize the difference between parties.

I'm not going to cry every time Republicans do what Republicans do. Let's hope people show up in 2018. Will they?

They're trying to keep you in your job. In case you haven't heard, robotics are taking over. McDonald's is already starting to fire workers and replace them with machinery.

BULLSHIT!!! The company that makes the hamburger flipping robot states the robot won't flip hamburgers!

Kiosks as well as apps place the order faster, not replace workers to deliver the orders.

 

[OnePercenter]

Republicans in several states are lowering the minimum wage — yes, you read that right

While journalists and political junkies are focused on the latest implosion of the GOP effort to repeal Obamacare and gut Medicaid, conservatives in several states have been working to decrease the minimum wage that businesses can pay to their workers.

In Missouri, Republicans just passed a law overturning a local measure passed by the city of St. Louis that had raised the minimum wage to $10 per hour.

Senate grinds to a halt as Republicans push local minimum wage ban through

The Republicans' hypocrisy on minimum wage

------------------------------------------

How Much Could I Receive? | Food and Nutrition Service

Say a mother of two is making 8 bucks an hour. That's around $1280 a month. Say she's single because her husband died and left her without any money. And out of that $1280 is rent and clothes and healthcare.

According to food stamp rules, she would get her income times .3 which would be subtracted from $511 which would come out to less than $130 a month.

There is one problem with that amount. Republicans think it is way too much.

Yea, the heartless bastards think that's way too much. That's today's GOP. They kneel at the alter of the Church of the Heartless Bastard. Far removed from Christ.

Right wingers vote them into office because they believe their lives aren't miserable enough.

And now, they think Putin, of all the evil people in the world, is a "great" leader. Because people in Russia are so happy.

Russia is a mess — the poverty rate is soaring and only 10 of 85 regions are financially stable

It's the people's fault. I say lower minimum wage. The people who make minimum wage don't vote. They are realizing elections have consequences

Punish people who make minimum wage because they aren't punished enough? Really?

I see the goop's side of this. There are situations where the kid should only be getting $5 hr. The putt putt golf coarse kid or batting cage kid.

Anyways, why didn't these poor people show up for Hillary? So now they're going to realize the difference between parties.

I'm not going to cry every time Republicans do what Republicans do. Let's hope people show up in 2018. Will they?

How about the whole concept of an "entry level" job being entry level, and not something designed to raise a family on, or even be something you can support yourself on.

The idea is to work up the ladder, not hang on the bottom rung and wonder why its so hard to be hanging there.

Unless you need an advanced degree for certification/licensing, EVERY job is entry level.

 

[OnePercenter]

Republicans in several states are lowering the minimum wage — yes, you read that right

While journalists and political junkies are focused on the latest implosion of the GOP effort to repeal Obamacare and gut Medicaid, conservatives in several states have been working to decrease the minimum wage that businesses can pay to their workers.

In Missouri, Republicans just passed a law overturning a local measure passed by the city of St. Louis that had raised the minimum wage to $10 per hour.

Senate grinds to a halt as Republicans push local minimum wage ban through

The Republicans' hypocrisy on minimum wage

------------------------------------------

How Much Could I Receive? | Food and Nutrition Service

Say a mother of two is making 8 bucks an hour. That's around $1280 a month. Say she's single because her husband died and left her without any money. And out of that $1280 is rent and clothes and healthcare.

According to food stamp rules, she would get her income times .3 which would be subtracted from $511 which would come out to less than $130 a month.

There is one problem with that amount. Republicans think it is way too much.

Yea, the heartless bastards think that's way too much. That's today's GOP. They kneel at the alter of the Church of the Heartless Bastard. Far removed from Christ.

Right wingers vote them into office because they believe their lives aren't miserable enough.

And now, they think Putin, of all the evil people in the world, is a "great" leader. Because people in Russia are so happy.

Russia is a mess — the poverty rate is soaring and only 10 of 85 regions are financially stable

It's the people's fault. I say lower minimum wage. The people who make minimum wage don't vote. They are realizing elections have consequences

Punish people who make minimum wage because they aren't punished enough? Really?

I see the goop's side of this. There are situations where the kid should only be getting $5 hr. The putt putt golf coarse kid or batting cage kid.

Anyways, why didn't these poor people show up for Hillary? So now they're going to realize the difference between parties.

I'm not going to cry every time Republicans do what Republicans do. Let's hope people show up in 2018. Will they?

How about the whole concept of an "entry level" job being entry level, and not something designed to raise a family on, or even be something you can support yourself on.

The idea is to work up the ladder, not hang on the bottom rung and wonder why its so hard to be hanging there.

That's the real problem. I'm not going to tell Republicans what to do. They told blue collar they would make America great again and if part of their plan is to lower minimum wage, who am I to argue? Do you make minimum wage? I don't. So raising minimum wage lowers the value of my salary. Is my employer going to raise my wages?

Blue collar voted for Trump and Republicans. Let them see what voting Republican gets them.

Ask a blue collar worker why and you'll get a deer in the headlights response.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sixty-five percent of the United States economy is based on middle class spending. With predator employers keeping wages low the economy (at least for the middle class) isn't going to improve. Those predators need to be taught that a 50% net is unrealistic.

Sixty-five percent of the United States economy is based on middle class spending.

What does that have to do with the unskilled workers making minimum wage?
They sure as hell aren't in the middle class.

Those predators need to be taught that a 50% net is unrealistic.

Who has a 50% net?

 

[danielpalos]

You have learned 81 times the corporations don't pay their fair share. They pass on the corporate tax cost like all costs to their customers In the form of higher prices. Therefore the corporate tax should be illuminated it would give our corporations a huge incentive To stay in America and provide millions of jobs shall we go for number 82

"illuminating" corporate taxes would do nothing to raise the cost of cheap foreign labor.

eliminating taxes on American corporations would lower the cost of American labor and make it more competitive with cheap foreign labor!! Do you understand?

We are not competing with Third World labor. US labor has to be expensive enough for capital to seek gains from efficiency, not "cheap labor".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have learned 81 times the corporations don't pay their fair share. They pass on the corporate tax cost like all costs to their customers In the form of higher prices. Therefore the corporate tax should be illuminated it would give our corporations a huge incentive To stay in America and provide millions of jobs shall we go for number 82

"illuminating" corporate taxes would do nothing to raise the cost of cheap foreign labor.

eliminating taxes on American corporations would lower the cost of American labor and make it more competitive with cheap foreign labor!! Do you understand?

BULLSHIT!!! Lowering taxes would increase business net. A 1:1 tax credit on employee expenses would be a much better idea.

Since employee expenses are much higher than corporate profits, you're handing corporations a giant refund from the government.

 

[OnePercenter]

Sixty-five percent of the United States economy is based on middle class spending. With predator employers keeping wages low the economy (at least for the middle class) isn't going to improve. Those predators need to be taught that a 50% net is unrealistic.

Sixty-five percent of the United States economy is based on middle class spending.

What does that have to do with the unskilled workers making minimum wage?
They sure as hell aren't in the middle class.

Those predators need to be taught that a 50% net is unrealistic.

Who has a 50% net?

Unless you need an advanced degree for/or certification/licensing, EVERY job is unskilled.

I stated that a 50% net is unrealistic.

Thanks for the spin!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sixty-five percent of the United States economy is based on middle class spending. With predator employers keeping wages low the economy (at least for the middle class) isn't going to improve. Those predators need to be taught that a 50% net is unrealistic.

Sixty-five percent of the United States economy is based on middle class spending.

What does that have to do with the unskilled workers making minimum wage?
They sure as hell aren't in the middle class.

Those predators need to be taught that a 50% net is unrealistic.

Who has a 50% net?

Unless you need an advanced degree for/or certification/licensing, EVERY job is unskilled.

I stated that a 50% net is unrealistic.

Thanks for the spin!

If no one gets a 50% net, what are you whining about?