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Burst a blood vessel?
You and your article, is way way way behind the times my dear!
The interference crosses multiple platforms with a wider reach than first estimated
Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube all have data indicating some political ads leading up to the election were purchased by Russian organizations. (Tumblr has now shared that 84 accounts were also used on the platform, but the network believes only organic posts, not ads, on the platform had an IRA link). Facebook ads had the largest audience, with sponsored posts reaching as many as 126 million Americans (based on estimates from November). The Facebook-owned Instagram also had 120,000 posts with Russian links, though it’s unclear how many users saw those posts.
The reach of Russian trolling ads is also much wider than originally thought. Facebook originally said 3,000 ads were purchased by Russian trolls, with a reach of around 10,000, but now that number is 80,000 ads and a 126-million reach, though that new data also encompasses non-paid posts, images, and events.
On Twitter, at least 2,752 accounts and over 36,000 bots sharing political posts were connected to Russia, the platform shared in November. Twitter says, however, that only 0.74 percent of election-related Tweets came from those accounts, getting just 0.33 percent of impressions out of all the political Tweets between September 1 and November 15, 2016.
Google says that one group spent $4,700 on search and display ads during the election, though none of those ads were targeted toward specific states or political interests. YouTube had 1,108 English-language videos from 18 Russian trolling accounts, though not all of those were political and only three percent saw upward of 5,000 views. The company didn’t find any related Google+ ads in English, though there were some written in Russian.
9 things you need to know about the Russian social media election ads
Marion Morrison
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My Q is: So why did FB, Twitter, and Google allow so many Russian bots to post?
Another Q: Are these not pro-Hillary and BLM ads?
https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/dont_shoot_page_6042389760996.pdf
https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/uma_paid_event_ad.pdf
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Marion Morrison
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Way off-topic:
I live about 20 miles from saltwater, but what did I see on the sidewalk yesterday? A small dead Yellowfin Snapper.
Such a waste, they're one of my favorites.
Either it jumped out of somebody's boat well, or an Osprey dropped it (Near as I can figure).
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Redfish
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Way off-topic:
I live about 20 miles from saltwater, but what did I see on the sidewalk yesterday? A small dead yellow.
Such a waste, they're one of my favorites.
Either it jumped out of somebody's boat well, or an Osprey dropped it (Near as I can figure).
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No, they are not pro Hillary ads.
They are ads directed at Republicans, pretending to be Hillary ads, so to yank conservative's chains on what issues ''the republicans THINK" are democratic and Hillary ads/issues....
PSY-OPS.
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As I have told you several times over the past year, most of the Russian focus, was to divide liberals, so that democrats would stay home or vote for a third party.... its focus, was to depress/suppress the liberal vote....it is a long time Republican strategy that the Russians played off of....
in addition their ads played on dividing Americans, making conservatives angry, and make them hate Hillary more, surpassing what they ever did.... and this got the vote out for conservatives.....
Now PLEASE do NOT ask me your stupid question again, sadly, it only shows your willful intent on staying ignorant....
Seawytch
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Have you been living under a rock? There have been hearings,indictments and arrests.
Russian Hacking and Influence in the U.S. Election
Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia
Did Russia Affect the 2016 Election? It’s Now Undeniable
You still haven't answered MY question. If someone tries to rob a bank, but doesn't get away with any money, has a crime still been committed or not?
Redfish
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So you are claiming that the Russians created Hillary-hate by putting a few ads on facebook. You are very naïve. As to conservatives hating Hillary, there was no need for ads to increase that, it was very prevalent in conservatives, moderates, independents, and even some democrats. Hillary Clinton was and is a terrible corrupt human being. Virtually everyone in the world knows that.
You on the left continually say that "Russian hacked our election" but not one of you can say which votes were changed as a direct result of Russian actions, in which states they occurred, and how many of them there were. You also are unable to tell us exactly what the Russians did, "ads played on dividing americans" does not cut it. All political ads are played on dividing americans, always have been.
Now, for some actual Russian influence,
1. selling the fake dossier to the Clinton campaign
2. giving 145 million to the Clinton foundation
3. paying bubba 450K for a 20 minute speech in moscow
4. gaining control of 20% of US uranium via a deal brokered by Hillary clinton
5. control of the 30,000 missing Hillary emails
6. leaking via wikileaks the corruption within the DNC
But what is ultimately much more troubling were the actions of top officials in the FBI and DOJ trying to influence the outcome of a US election.
Redfish
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those articles verify only that Russia was trying to stir the pot and get us all pissed off at each other, in that they succeeded quite well.
the indictments from Heir Mewler have not been related to anything done by Trump or the Trump campaign. Mewler was not chartered to investigate the last 30 years of the lives of everyone that participated in the Trump campaign. No collusion has been found. Innocent until proven guilty has been suspended by the Mueller team, Manafort being put in solitary before any trial or proof of guilt is a crime in itself.
As to your bank question, yes, attempted robbery is a crime. But that has nothing to do with attempting to influence an election in another country, we have been doing that since 1776 and other countries have been trying to influence ours since then too. There is nothing new here. Nothing but left wingers who cannot accept the FACT the their beloved Hillary got her fat ass kicked by Donald Trump and that Trump is doing an outstanding job as president
Seawytch
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BrokeLoser
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Phuck Russia...the shitholes of the world have infiltrated our democracy.
Mexico pretty much runs Mexifornia through barely legal anchor baby politicians framing policy to better ‘fit’ for their kind....NOW, we have Alexander Ocasio-Cortez willing to engage in bare knuckle brawls to force good Americans to better fund her people and encourage more thirdworlders to come get their piece of the checking accounts of good Americans.
The Left-
“Encourage foreign nations to ‘meddle’ in U.S. democracy...BUT X nation must be a shithole, the infiltrators can not be white and they can not run ads in cyberspace....they must plant illegals here to drop litters of anchor babies who will eventually vote on their shithole nations interests.”
(please save the “Puerto Ricans are American” bullshit)
Seawytch
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Yeah, poor Paulie walnuts...
They pointed out that he has had a personal telephone in his unit at the Northern Neck Regional Jail and has had more than 100 phone calls with his lawyers in the last three weeks as they prepare for trial. He has a personal laptop on which he can review materials from the case and access to his own workspace to meet with his legal team, they said. Visitors’ logs show Manafort having multiple visits each week with his lawyers, according to the prosecutors.
Though Manafort’s lawyers have said he spends nearly all of his days in solitary confinement, prosecutors described his living arrangements as a “private, self-contained living unit, which is larger than other inmates’ units” with its own bathroom and shower.
“On the monitored prison phone calls, Manafort has mentioned that he is being treated like a ‘VIP,’” prosecutors quoted him as having said. They also said Manafort has said in the calls that he is able to visit with his lawyers every day and that he has “all my files like I would at home.”
Prosecutors: Manafort says he's treated like 'VIP' in jail
Though Manafort’s lawyers have said he spends nearly all of his days in solitary confinement, prosecutors described his living arrangements as a “private, self-contained living unit, which is larger than other inmates’ units” with its own bathroom and shower.
“On the monitored prison phone calls, Manafort has mentioned that he is being treated like a ‘VIP,’” prosecutors quoted him as having said. They also said Manafort has said in the calls that he is able to visit with his lawyers every day and that he has “all my files like I would at home.”
So it was a crime to try to influence our election. People have been trying to rob banks since the beginning of banks too...still a crime.
So, even if no votes or voters were swayed (and we don't know one way or the other, but evidence suggests the Russians had an impact), a crime was still committed and the foreign criminals may have had American help. That would be important to know don't ya think?
Redfish
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you are wrong, it is not a crime for one country to try to influence the elections in another country, there is no body of international law that would cover such things. It is a crime however, for a federal employee to try to use his/her position to try to influence the outcome of a federal election, can you say: Strzok and Page and McCabe, and Comey, and Lynch--------------AND Obama?
Seawytch
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No, I'm not wrong. Russia committed crimes. That's how all the charges are coming about in the Special Counsel investigation. These are things we know. What we don't know is how much help Russia got with their criminal activity from American traitors.
Riddle me this, joker...why didn't anything come out about the Russia investigation until after the election if the "deep state" was out to get Trump?
Seawytch
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Come on, Redfish...tell us all about the "deep state" that was out to stop Trump at all costs.
The FBI's investigation started in July of 2016. If Strzok and the FBI wanted to stop Trump, all it would have taken was a few selective leaks to the Press...And yet that didn't happen. Comey felt the need to tell us about Huma's emails days before the election but stayed completely mum on the fact that Trump and his campaign were under counter intelligence investigation.
The FBI's investigation started in July of 2016. If Strzok and the FBI wanted to stop Trump, all it would have taken was a few selective leaks to the Press...And yet that didn't happen. Comey felt the need to tell us about Huma's emails days before the election but stayed completely mum on the fact that Trump and his campaign were under counter intelligence investigation.
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