Which caliber is best for stopping a crook? Pistol, rifle or shotgun?

[Blues Man]

OK, UK has lower murder rate. I do not know how can crime rate be measured.

And there's more to the murder rate than just guns.

The UK has always had a lower murder rate than the US even before they passed the draconian gun laws you love so much

 

[M14 Shooter]

And there's more to the murder rate than just guns.

The UK has always had a lower murder rate than the US even before they passed the draconian gun laws you love so much

The US murder rate w/o firearms is higher than the UK murder rate.

 

[Dagosa]

And there's more to the murder rate than just guns.

The UK has always had a lower murder rate than the US even before they passed the draconian gun laws you love so much

It’s hilarious how the two parties disagree on gun control. The majority of democrats are looking for ways to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, while the repos are arguing for ways to increase the sales of all firearms to appease their donors. They are mutually exclusive ideas.

 

[Blues Man]

It’s hilarious how the two parties disagree on gun control. The majority of democrats are looking for ways to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, while the repos are arguing for ways to increase the sales of all firearms to appease their donors. They are mutually exclusive ideas.

No the dems want to ban this gun or that gun and want more laws even though the laws we already have aren't being enforced.

Any person who is prohibited from possessing a firearm who is arrested for possession of a firearm is committing a federal crime punishable by a 5 year stint in federal prison.

If you want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals then start prosecuting them instead of dropping gun charges.

In Delaware, 71% of gun charges are dropped

While 71 percent of charges are dropped, state prosecutors say convictions of some sort in firearms cases at 87 percent.

www.delawareonline.com

 

[2aguy]

It’s hilarious how the two parties disagree on gun control. The majority of democrats are looking for ways to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, while the repos are arguing for ways to increase the sales of all firearms to appease their donors. They are mutually exclusive ideas.

Nothing the democrats demand will keep guns out if the hands of criminals....going back to the New Yorkdemocrat party Sullivan law they seek to keep normal people unable to buy and carry guns. They could care less about stoppimg criminals......they attack the police and then release the most violent criminals over and over again


Nothing you posted is tru or accurate

 

[Dagosa]

No the dems want to ban this gun or that gun and want more laws even though the laws we already have aren't being enforced.

Any person who is prohibited from possessing a firearm who is arrested for possession of a firearm is committing a federal crime punishable by a 5 year stint in federal prison.

If you want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals then start prosecuting them instead of dropping gun charges.

In Delaware, 71% of gun charges are dropped

While 71 percent of charges are dropped, state prosecutors say convictions of some sort in firearms cases at 87 percent.

www.delawareonline.com

You make those claI’m with no evidence. You also repeat the same false narrative. Every firearm made commercially is supposed to be sold only through a an FFL dealer which requires a background check
Its pretty fking obvious that with all the criminals and illegal people possessing firearms, it’s legal purchasers who are the conduit for criminal firearm use. You’re mistaken, again and again. We have a trial going on where a legal buyer participated in a straw purchaser for a person under 18 who shot and killed two people Possessing a firearm he didn’t purchase was not hunting with and had no legal right to possess it. There are no laws on the books that prevent legal owner from UNKNOWINGLY selling a gun to a criminal, too young or otherwise unqualified persons.

Nothing, nada, nix

 

[Dagosa]

You make those claim with no evidence. You also repeat the same false narrative. Every firearm made commercially is supposed to be sold only through a an FFL dealer which requires a background check
Its pretty fking obvious that with all the criminals and illegal people possessing firearms, it’s legal purchasers who are the conduit for criminal firearm use. You’re mistaken, again and again. We have a trial going on where a legal buyer participated in a straw purchaser for a person under 18 who shot and killed two people Possessing a firearm. The defendant didn’t purchase, was not hunting with and had no legal right to possess it. There are no Federal laws on the books that prevent a legal or original buyer / owner from UNKNOWINGLY selling a gun to a criminal, too young or otherwise unqualified persons.

Nothing, nada, nix

 

[2aguy]

You make those cla8ms with no evidence. You also ride the same false narrative. Every firearm made commercially is supposed to be sold only through a an FFL dealer which requires a background check
Its pretty fking obvious that with all the criminals and illegal people possessing firearms, it’s legal purchasers who are the conduit for criminal firearm use. You’re mistaken, again and again. We have a trial going on where a legal buyer participated in a straw purchaser for a person under 18 who shot and killed two people Possessing a firearm he didn’t purchase was not hunting with and had no legal right to possess it. ,

Moron....legal purchasers are not the ones supplying gangs and criminals.....straw buyers, knowingly breaking the law are supplying the criminals...the baby mommas, mothers, grand mothers, sisters are the ones walking into gun stores, knowing they are buying the gun for their criminal baby daddy or relative.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Its pretty fking obvious that with all the criminals and illegal people possessing firearms, it’s legal purchasers who are the conduit for criminal firearm use.

In what manner?

You’re mistaken, again and again. We have a trial going on where a legal buyer participated in a straw purchaser for a person under 18...

No one is on trial for this.

Possessing a firearm he didn’t purchase was not hunting with and had no legal right to possess it.

Rittemhouse was in legal possession of the firearm.

There are no laws on the books that prevent legal owner from UNKNOWINGLY selling a gun to a criminal, too young or otherwise unqualified persons.

Of course not - why would there be?

 

[Dagosa]

Nothing the democrats demand will keep guns out if the hands of criminals....going back to the New Yorkdemocrat party Sullivan law they seek to keep normal people unable to buy and carry guns. They could care less about stoppimg criminals......they attack the police and then release the most violent criminals over and over again


Nothing you posted is tru or accurate

Nothing you posted is true. You’re totally confused.
By itemizing which you now do for SALT deductions, you qualifying tax burden easily surpasses that for taxes other then property taxes
,it’s the middle class property owner who losses the ability to deduct his property tax. You have to MAKE A CHOICE NOW in deductions.

• The SALT deduction allows you to deduct your payments for property tax payments and either income or sales tax payments
• The maximum SALT deduction is $10,000, but there was no cap before 2018
• You must itemize using Schedule A to claim the SALT deduction; most people do not qualify to itemize

 

[2aguy]

Nothing you posted is true. You’re totally confused.
By itemizing which you now do for SALT deductions, you qualifying tax burden easily surpasses that for taxes other then property taxes
,it’s the middle class property owner who losses the ability to deduct his property tax. You have to MAKE A CHOICE NOW in deductions.

• The SALT deduction allows you to deduct your payments for property tax payments and either income or sales tax payments
• The maximum SALT deduction is $10,000, but there was no cap before 2018
• You must itemize using Schedule A to claim the SALT deduction; most people do not qualify to itemize

Wrong thread dipshit...

 

[Blues Man]

You make those claI’m with no evidence. You also repeat the same false narrative. Every firearm made commercially is supposed to be sold only through a an FFL dealer which requires a background check
Its pretty fking obvious that with all the criminals and illegal people possessing firearms, it’s legal purchasers who are the conduit for criminal firearm use. You’re mistaken, again and again. We have a trial going on where a legal buyer participated in a straw purchaser for a person under 18 who shot and killed two people Possessing a firearm he didn’t purchase was not hunting with and had no legal right to possess it. There are no laws on the books that prevent legal owner from UNKNOWINGLY selling a gun to a criminal, too young or otherwise unqualified persons.

Nothing, nada, nix

No you're wrong.

Private sales are allowed by law.

 

[Dagosa]

No you're wrong.

Private sales are allowed by law.

You‘re obviously pretending you’re confused. You’re absolutely wrong. Private sales to unqualified buyers IS NOT ALLOWED BY FEDERAL LAW. FFL dealers are required to ascertain that the buyers qualifications, private sellers are not. Therefore, they sell to unqualified peoples unknowingly.
Enforceable regulations need a provision for enforcement. The private sale regulation does not have one.

 

[2aguy]

You‘re obviously pretending you’re confused. You’re absolutely wrong. Private sales to unqualified buyers IS NOT ALLOWED BY FEDERAL LAW. FFL dealers are required to ascertain that the buyers qualifications, private sellers are not. Therefore, they sell to unqualified peoples unknowingly.
Enforceable regulations need a provision for enforcement. The private sale regulation does not have one.

Nope...the only reason a shithead like you wants to do background checks on private sales is to demand gun registration...which is what you actually want....since you don't care about criminals getting guns, since you support the democrats releasing violent gun offenders over and over again......

What we need is access to NICS on a phone app for anyone who wants to do a background check.....no fee, no record, seconds to do...but you guys won't support that because the goal is registration of guns.....so later you will be able to confiscate and ban them...

 

[M14 Shooter]

You‘re obviously pretending you’re confused. You’re absolutely wrong. Private sales to unqualified buyers IS NOT ALLOWED BY FEDERAL LAW.

Private -sales- to "unqualified buyers" is only prohibited by federal law when the seller knows, or should know, the buyer is an "unqualified buyer".
The -purchase- of a firearm by an "unqualified buyer" is always against federal la.w

 

[Dagosa]

Private -sales- to "unqualified buyers" is only prohibited by federal law when the seller knows, or should know, the buyer is an "unqualified buyer".
The -purchase- of a firearm by an "unqualified buyer" is always against federal la.w

Hence the term “unknowingly“ . . FFL dealers ARE REQUIRED TO KNOW. Private sales sellers are not. Hence, ALL unqualified gun possessors started out with legal sales.

 

[Dagosa]

Nope...the only reason a shithead like you wants to do background checks on private sales is to demand gun registration...which is what you actually want....since you don't care about criminals getting guns, since you support the democrats releasing violent gun offenders over and over again......

What we need is access to NICS on a phone app for anyone who wants to do a background check.....no fee, no record, seconds to do...but you guys won't support that because the goal is registration of guns.....so later you will be able to confiscate and ban them...

Oh, another internet tough guy a-hole.

 

[M14 Shooter]

He seems the term “unknowingly“ . . FFL dealers ARE REQUIRED TO KNOW. Private sales sellers are not.

You said:
Private sales to unqualified buyers IS NOT ALLOWED BY FEDERAL LAW.
This is not true.

Hence, ALL unqualified gun possessors started out with legal sales.

Sure.
Some are stolen from police departments. Some are stolen from the military. Some are stolen from private parties. Some are sold to individualss who cannot legally buy a gun.
What's your point?

 

[Blues Man]

You‘re obviously pretending you’re confused. You’re absolutely wrong. Private sales to unqualified buyers IS NOT ALLOWED BY FEDERAL LAW. FFL dealers are required to ascertain that the buyers qualifications, private sellers are not. Therefore, they sell to unqualified peoples unknowingly.
Enforceable regulations need a provision for enforcement. The private sale regulation does not have one.

Wrong again.

the law states that a private seller can't KNOWINGLY sell to a person who is prohibited by law from owning a firearm.

 

[2aguy]

Wrong again.

the law states that a private seller can't KNOWINGLY sell to a person who is prohibited by law from owning a firearm.

That just burns them up when they see that..........they want gun registration so bad it drives them nuts......they know that universal background checks is the path to gun registration, so they will twist themselves into pretzels with their desire to push UBCs...........

The only reason they care about private gun sales is to get Universal background checks...something they need in order to demand gun registration....