Where's the outrage at the President's man telling you what to eat?

[frigidweirdo]

I'm sure some did but you said ALL of future MAGA did. That's why I brought out the broad-brush thing. I just don't remember too many people getting upset at something a First Lady said or did, because all of them have a pet project. Nancy Reagan was "Just say no" to drugs, Hillary Clinton was, "I'm going to completely socialize our healthcare system whether you want me to or not", and Michelle Obama was about healthier eating. I do, BTW, agree with her on that. Americans eat a horrible diet.

Yeah, MAGA people are generally fucked up and do what they're told to do, say what they're told to say.

If it's a generalization and you know it's a generalization, then what's the problem?

 

[JohnDB]

Why RFK Jr wants American cereal to be more Canadian

The US health secretary on Tuesday announced the country would ban eight commonly used artificial food dyes, some found in breakfast cereals.

www.bbc.com

"Why RFK Jr wants American cereal to be more Canadian"

"
US Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr on Tuesday announced the US would ban eight commonly used artificial food dyes. Two petroleum-based synthetic dyes would be phased out in the coming weeks, and others by the end of 2026.

Experts have linked the dyes - which are found in dozens of foods, including cereals, candy, snacks and beverages - to neurological problems in some children.

The BBC's reporters in the US and Canada take a closer look at the difference between Froot Loops cereal made in both countries."

When Obama's wife decided to try and make kids healthier and tell them what to eat, all the future MAGA lot went ape shit.

Why not this time?

I am a fully trained and experienced professional chef.
I make most foods that we eat. Yes, I even make pullman sandwich bread and pasta.

I don't make froot loops.

I don't eat them either. They do not taste good to people who have removed all the artificial flavors and colors from their diets.
When we eat out at restaurants it's always dissatisfying....the artificial junk in our food stands out EVERY time.
The Subway chocolate chip cookies are extremely nasty tasting.

But i can also understand not everyone is like me and my house. And people dependant upon eating out or cooking/preparing heavily processed foods made at home are without any recourse.

And the chemicals need to come out. Two incomes are needed for a family anymore. People are too busy and unaccustomed to cook from scratch. It's a rare skill set to be able to do this without it requiring too much time and effort.

There ARE ways to get the colors and flavors necessary without cheap chemical additives. But due to the desire for larger margins....it's almost more expensive anymore to buy the basic ingredients and make food yourself.

Bacon is a prime example....if I buy fresh whole pork bellies they want $5+/lb. However cured and sliced bacon is just over $4/lb. (I have my own curing salts and the ones they use anymore are neurologically toxic instead of carcinogenic)

There needs to be a radical sea change in how food is processed.
Hog jowls are over $5/lb too.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I am a fully trained and experienced professional chef.
I make most foods that we eat. Yes, I even make pullman sandwich bread and pasta.

I don't make froot loops.

I don't eat them either. They do not taste good to people who have removed all the artificial flavors and colors from their diets.
When we eat out at restaurants it's always dissatisfying....the artificial junk in our food stands out EVERY time.
The Subway chocolate chip cookies are extremely nasty tasting.

But i can also understand not everyone is like me and my house. And people dependant upon eating out or cooking/preparing heavily processed foods made at home are without any recourse.

And the chemicals need to come out. Two incomes are needed for a family anymore. People are too busy and unaccustomed to cook from scratch. It's a rare skill set to be able to do this without it requiring too much time and effort.

There ARE ways to get the colors and flavors necessary without cheap chemical additives. But due to the desire for larger margins....it's almost more expensive anymore to buy the basic ingredients and make food yourself.

Bacon is a prime example....if I buy fresh whole pork bellies they want $5+/lb. However cured and sliced bacon is just over $4/lb. (I have my own curing salts and the ones they use anymore are neurologically toxic instead of carcinogenic)

There needs to be a radical sea change in how food is processed.
Hog jowls are over $5/lb too.

But... the problem is that MONEY rules America. It bribes the government, tells the govt "this is the cheapest option, this will make us the most profit, and on top of that it'll make the healthcare industry a lot of profit, it'll reduce pensions, it'll do a lot for the rich in this country"....

So the politicians on the take say "we love you poison".

 

[JohnDB]

But... the problem is that MONEY rules America. It bribes the government, tells the govt "this is the cheapest option, this will make us the most profit, and on top of that it'll make the healthcare industry a lot of profit, it'll reduce pensions, it'll do a lot for the rich in this country"....

So the politicians on the take say "we love you poison".

Getting corporate stooges out of the FDA is a great first step. The "science" they used to approve the various additives would never be accepted by most honest scientists.

The evils of sugar are researched and dishonestly formed into sounde bites by the artificial sweetener producers. The artificial sweeteners are researched by sugar producers and given the same treatment.

Real science long since forgotten.

And there is the problem.

 

[Dragonlady]

Are you calling for the FDA to be banned?

As long as it exists, it should be striving to make sure our food is actually healthy, instead of allowing giant corporations to poison us.

Yes, that is the purpose of the FDA, but lobbyists exist to get things that are good for business into public use. You continue to allow politicians to accept "gifts" from lobbyists and "special interest groups".

The USA has ALWAYS put the interests of business ahead of the interests of the American people. The Founders were businessmen, scientists, and wealthy plantation owners, who wanted to control their own economy, and not be subject to the whims of a King on the other side of the ocean.

You're still giving tax breaks to billionaires, because why????? It's good for the economy!!! But that's a lie. Every tax cut for billionaires has crashed the US economy. Even worse, the billionaires make even MORE money from the crashes.

Trump is even telling the wealthy - I'm messing with the stock market. Now is a good time to buy.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Getting corporate stooges out of the FDA is a great first step. The "science" they used to approve the various additives would never be accepted by most honest scientists.

The evils of sugar are researched and dishonestly formed into sounde bites by the artificial sweetener producers. The artificial sweeteners are researched by sugar producers and given the same treatment.

Real science long since forgotten.

And there is the problem.

The problem is the electoral system doesn't give people a proper choice, doesn't give them oversight, hands all the power to the rich.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Why RFK Jr wants American cereal to be more Canadian

The US health secretary on Tuesday announced the country would ban eight commonly used artificial food dyes, some found in breakfast cereals.

www.bbc.com

"Why RFK Jr wants American cereal to be more Canadian"

"
US Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr on Tuesday announced the US would ban eight commonly used artificial food dyes. Two petroleum-based synthetic dyes would be phased out in the coming weeks, and others by the end of 2026.

Experts have linked the dyes - which are found in dozens of foods, including cereals, candy, snacks and beverages - to neurological problems in some children.

The BBC's reporters in the US and Canada take a closer look at the difference between Froot Loops cereal made in both countries."

When Obama's wife decided to try and make kids healthier and tell them what to eat, all the future MAGA lot went ape shit.

Why not this time?

Not sure I see them as the same thing.

What you are saying is that they are examining components in food. Not the food itself. And they are not telling you what you have to eat.

I thought Obama actually required a change in foods that were being given to kids.

I see a difference. Do I have that wrong?

 

[citygator]

I have no problem with safety measures on our food. The right wing nuts are so fucking stupid they only follow the recommendations of morons. RFK is a kook. A fucking nut.

Michelle O pushed for healthy options in school. Vegetables not fries. Fresh not packaged. And the fucking right went fucking bonkers. You are all morons.

 

[Blaster]

The problem is the electoral system doesn't give people a proper choice, doesn't give them oversight, hands all the power to the rich.

Bullshit

 

[odanny]

I think, when you strip away the politics, that most people agree our diet is awful.

Yes, and RFK knows this, as do probably all of us, what keeps it awful is Big Ag is catered to and they are allowed to play Victor Frankenstein with what we eat.

 

[JohnDB]

If you were to switch to scratch Pullman loaf bread made with plain shortening instead of butter like I make mine. (Butter is always better but its closer to what the industry makes) Switch for a month for all your breakfast toast and sandwiches you eat. Then try the store bought once again. You will spit it out.
It's no longer bread to you but is something similar to chemically made cotton candy.

You marvel at how you used to eat it regularly without compunction as a staple in your regular diet. Same thing holds true for hamburger buns or whatever. Even the "Whole wheat" bread is not any different. It may even be worse.

EVERY item in the stores is the exact same way. From the pasta aisle with macaroni and cheese to frozen lasagne. None are any good anymore. The basic raw ingredients, which should be cheaper, are more expensive because the producers are not using real food anymore to produce the processed foods you are buying.

That should be the first real clue. You are being poisoned so that an executive can afford his new yacht because he wants to have enough room for more half naked models on-board it.

And that's literally what it is all about. Providing nourishing food to consumers/customers? It's a niche marketing phrase....not anything that really concerns them.

When food comes in a brightly 4-color printed flimsy cardboard box....there's a strong possibility that it never was food to begin with. (4 color printing is the most expensive printing)

 

[g5000]

We are the most unhealthy nation in the world. The most obese. The most chronic illnesses. 90%+ of it is all caused by diet.

Most of them are Trump supporters.

By the way, we are the 13th most obese.

Jules: You remember Antoine Roccamora, half black, half Samoan, used to call him Tony Rocky Horror?

Vincent: Yeah, maybe. Fat, right?

Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call the brother fat, I mean he got a weight problem. What's the ****** gonna do? He's Samoan.

 

[Dragonlady]

Getting corporate stooges out of the FDA is a great first step. The "science" they used to approve the various additives would never be accepted by most honest scientists.

The evils of sugar are researched and dishonestly formed into sounde bites by the artificial sweetener producers. The artificial sweeteners are researched by sugar producers and given the same treatment.

Real science long since forgotten.

And there is the problem.

And that's BULLSHIT. The science used to approve/ban the additives is EXACTLY THE SAME in all jurisdictions. Where the differences lie is in the "minimal harm" standard being applied by these nations. The USA allows a much higher standard of "harm" than the EU or Canada.

Even worse, the USA disregards many of the harms demonstrated by the science because the Food Industry Lobbyists donate to politicians who vote in favour of "deregulation". Trump ran on "deregulation".

You have the highest rate of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease in the world. All of these issues are diet related. And Trump doesn't want your foods regulated at all.

So either you want your food highly regulated, like Canada or the EU, or you want "derulation" of the food industry, which Trump supports. Which is it?

 

[mudwhistle]

I would ask you to explain it, but you're not being serious now so what's the point of asking for a shred of evidence?

I was being serious.

Do your own research.

Michelle's school lunches were a joke. First thing kids do when they're starved at school is go home or go to the store and scarf up on junk food and snacks. And the number one thing about being healthy is getting plenty of exercise. I never had a problem with my weight growing up as a kid because I rarely stayed indoors. I was always outside playing or working. Then there's this mess about kids never having to walk anywhere. They need to walk at least a mile every day. But you have buses that have to pick them up and drop them off at their front door. It's pathetic. Kids stay inside and play video games instead of playing sports. I'm talking about White kids. I never see white kids playing outside anymore. That's because the media scared their parents so much that they're afraid to let them go outside.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yeah, MAGA people are generally fucked up and do what they're told to do, say what they're told to say.

If it's a generalization and you know it's a generalization, then what's the problem?

MAGA folks are usually the decent folks.

Leftists are the sick individuals spray painting Teslas.

 

[Nostra]

Why RFK Jr wants American cereal to be more Canadian

The US health secretary on Tuesday announced the country would ban eight commonly used artificial food dyes, some found in breakfast cereals.

www.bbc.com

"Why RFK Jr wants American cereal to be more Canadian"

"
US Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr on Tuesday announced the US would ban eight commonly used artificial food dyes. Two petroleum-based synthetic dyes would be phased out in the coming weeks, and others by the end of 2026.

Experts have linked the dyes - which are found in dozens of foods, including cereals, candy, snacks and beverages - to neurological problems in some children.

The BBC's reporters in the US and Canada take a closer look at the difference between Froot Loops cereal made in both countries."

When Obama's wife decided to try and make kids healthier and tell them what to eat, all the future MAGA lot went ape shit.

Why not this time?

OMG!

A Trump guy said eat healthy.

IMPEACH!


You clowns are beyond desperate.

 

[theHawk]

Yes, I agree. I don't want to have to worry about what I'm eating. I want to know whatever I buy is "good", within reason. I don't want sugar to be "good" in the sense that it's totally 100% healthy, but I also don't want it to be poisonous.

HOWEVER the point being made is that when Michelle Obama did it, the future MAGA lot went crazy. I supported what she did, and I support RFK in what he's doing too. I'm wondering why Trump picked him. Someone actually doing something sensible in Trump's regime, Wort Da Fork??

I don’t even remember much about Michelle Obama doing anything with food. We did not go “crazy” over it. No one has an issue with making kid lunch programs healthier.

But she sold out to Big Food real quick. Her plan was the same old health food pyramid crap. Giving kids fruit juices with 12g of sugar per serving isn’t healthy. Nowhere do I see her promoting actual healthy food like a keto diet or non-GMO food. Nowhere does she push more meats and less carbs.

So how did kids health do during the Obama era? Oh yea, they got fatter and more unhealthy.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This is unintentionally hilarious. It's deranged democrats knee jerking at It's finest. RFK Jr wants to get rid of food dyes. That has to be bad. Stop him. The rest of the developed world has already done so, "RFK Jr wants to make us Canada".

If there is some nutritional value in food dye, let's hear it. Otherwise just assume that deranged democrats are producing more republican campaign clips for 2026.

 

[Nostra]

But... the problem is that MONEY rules America. It bribes the government, tells the govt "this is the cheapest option, this will make us the most profit, and on top of that it'll make the healthcare industry a lot of profit, it'll reduce pensions, it'll do a lot for the rich in this country"....

So the politicians on the take say "we love you poison".

If you admit RFK is right why are you whining and crying?

 

[Nostra]

And that's BULLSHIT. The science used to approve/ban the additives is EXACTLY THE SAME in all jurisdictions. Where the differences lie is in the "minimal harm" standard being applied by these nations. The USA allows a much higher standard of "harm" than the EU or Canada.

Even worse, the USA disregards many of the harms demonstrated by the science because the Food Industry Lobbyists donate to politicians who vote in favour of "deregulation". Trump ran on "deregulation".

You have the highest rate of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease in the world. All of these issues are diet related. And Trump doesn't want your foods regulated at all.

So either you want your food highly regulated, like Canada or the EU, or you want "derulation" of the food industry, which Trump supports. Which is it?

So you support what RFK is doing.

Got it.