Where is this mountain of evidence for evolution?

[orogenicman]

There are no authorities in science, only experts. I have 26 years of field expertize in geology, and am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology. I am also a longtime amateur astronomer. What science expertize do you have? Any at all? Of course, you don't have any. All you have is your faith, and we all know that faith is a belief in something not in evidence.

I see, so ego and self value are all warped in your.. belief

This is where I am supposed to apologize for who I am and on what I have spent my life working. That you decided to waste your life evangelizing instead of learning something about nature is on you, not me.

No need to apologize just keep it in perspective..

From my perspective, you have no real training in, experience, or understanding of science. And yet you think you can play at the adult table when it comes to scientific issues. Either get a real education or let the educated adults have these discussions because, frankly, I don't care whether or not you actually understand any of the evidence I've posted here.

yes I see you invested many years in taking information and regurgitating it and I am not impressed, the world is full of buffoons with degrees. perhaps it is my lack of such indoctrination that allows me to see that..

One species does not "turn into" another or several other species -- not in an instant, anyway. The evolutionary process of speciation is how one population of a species changes over time to the point where that population is distinct and can no longer interbreed with the "parent" population...blah blah blah etc etc etc...
if the populations have been separate for long enough, that even if brought back together and given the opportunity to interbreed they won't, or they won't be successful if they try....

Is speculation and reads like a cheap novel

It is not speculation. It has been observed in the field and in the laboratory many times.

 

[HUGGY]

A fact? Then show us the proof.

The FACT that Evolution occurs is supported by biological, fossil, geologic and recently......DNA evidence

God is just a theory......A theory unsupported by scientific evidence

No it isn't. That's just your leap. Show us proof that one species became another.

I will provide you will an explanation that someone at your level of education (or lack thereof) should be able to grasp:

Evolution Frequently Asked Questions

1. How can one species "turn into" another?

One species does not "turn into" another or several other species -- not in an instant, anyway. The evolutionary process of speciation is how one population of a species changes over time to the point where that population is distinct and can no longer interbreed with the "parent" population. In order for one population to diverge enough from another to become a new species, there needs to be something to keep the populations from mixing. Often a physical boundary divides the species into two (or more) populations and keeps them from interbreeding. If separated for long enough and presented with sufficiently varied environmental conditions, each population takes its own distinct evolutionary path. Sometimes the division between the populations is never breached, and reproductive isolation remains intact purely for geographical reasons. It is possible, though, if the populations have been separate for long enough, that even if brought back together and given the opportunity to interbreed they won't, or they won't be successful if they try.

I asked for proof, not speculation. Can't you follow simple instructions, moron?

They have no proof. It takes as much faith, if not more, to believe evolution rather than Creation. Evolution has countless impossible hurdles to jump through. Creation has just one. The existence of God. The simplest explanation is usually the truth.

The same does not go for the simplest speculation. The simplest speculation for why there are presents under the tree to a 5 year old is Santa Claus. The truth of course is that the parents went to a lot of trouble and deception to hide the gifts and make sure the children are in the dark as they wrap these presents. Manufacturers and retail outlets help prolong the deceit. There is a man dressed up in a fake beard and red suit at every mall. To a 5 year old there is overwhelming proof that Santa is real.

When I was 5 I told my folks that I appreciated the presents but no longer wanted to get free stuff from Santa. The whole thing was made up and I wanted no part in the ruse. It just seemed silly. At some point in one's relationship with your parents you just would rather have a foundation based on truth and mutual respect. A child might feel better not being lied to even if there is a monetary reward for playing along. When a kid starts feeling like he or she is being bribed to accept playing a part it can be harmful and even foster resentment.

Many of you probably see this point of view as selfish to openly bust Santa on Christmas. For me it actually started a personal investigation on the whole Christmas ordeal and started building a wedge into my feelings about Christianity also because of the Nativity aspect being interwoven into the holiday. Once sure that Santa was a falsehood it made me question the rest of the whole thing including the three kings following a bright light in the sky etc. Not long after the whole thing unraveled for me and the beginnings of a young atheist started to develop.

 

[eots]

I see, so ego and self value are all warped in your.. belief

This is where I am supposed to apologize for who I am and on what I have spent my life working. That you decided to waste your life evangelizing instead of learning something about nature is on you, not me.

No need to apologize just keep it in perspective..

From my perspective, you have no real training in, experience, or understanding of science. And yet you think you can play at the adult table when it comes to scientific issues. Either get a real education or let the educated adults have these discussions because, frankly, I don't care whether or not you actually understand any of the evidence I've posted here.

yes I see you invested many years in taking information and regurgitating it and I am not impressed, the world is full of buffoons with degrees. perhaps it is my lack of such indoctrination that allows me to see that..

One species does not "turn into" another or several other species -- not in an instant, anyway. The evolutionary process of speciation is how one population of a species changes over time to the point where that population is distinct and can no longer interbreed with the "parent" population...blah blah blah etc etc etc...
if the populations have been separate for long enough, that even if brought back together and given the opportunity to interbreed they won't, or they won't be successful if they try....

Is speculation and reads like a cheap novel

It is not speculation. It has been observed in the field and in the laboratory many times.

 

[eots]

The FACT that Evolution occurs is supported by biological, fossil, geologic and recently......DNA evidence

God is just a theory......A theory unsupported by scientific evidence

No it isn't. That's just your leap. Show us proof that one species became another.

I will provide you will an explanation that someone at your level of education (or lack thereof) should be able to grasp:

Evolution Frequently Asked Questions

1. How can one species "turn into" another?

One species does not "turn into" another or several other species -- not in an instant, anyway. The evolutionary process of speciation is how one population of a species changes over time to the point where that population is distinct and can no longer interbreed with the "parent" population. In order for one population to diverge enough from another to become a new species, there needs to be something to keep the populations from mixing. Often a physical boundary divides the species into two (or more) populations and keeps them from interbreeding. If separated for long enough and presented with sufficiently varied environmental conditions, each population takes its own distinct evolutionary path. Sometimes the division between the populations is never breached, and reproductive isolation remains intact purely for geographical reasons. It is possible, though, if the populations have been separate for long enough, that even if brought back together and given the opportunity to interbreed they won't, or they won't be successful if they try.

I asked for proof, not speculation. Can't you follow simple instructions, moron?

They have no proof. It takes as much faith, if not more, to believe evolution rather than Creation. Evolution has countless impossible hurdles to jump through. Creation has just one. The existence of God. The simplest explanation is usually the truth.

The same does not go for the simplest speculation. The simplest speculation for why there are presents under the tree to a 5 year old is Santa Claus. The truth of course is that the parents went to a lot of trouble and deception to hide the gifts and make sure the children are in the dark as they wrap these presents. Manufacturers and retail outlets help prolong the deceit. There is a man dressed up in a fake beard and red suit at every mall. To a 5 year old there is overwhelming proof that Santa is real.

When I was 5 I told my folks that I appreciated the presents but no longer wanted to get free stuff from Santa. The whole thing was made up and I wanted no part in the ruse. It just seemed silly. At some point in one's relationship with your parents you just would rather have a foundation based on truth and mutual respect. A child might feel better not being lied to even if there is a monetary reward for playing along. When a kid starts feeling like he or she is being bribed to accept playing a part it can be harmful and even foster resentment.

Many of you probably see this point of view as selfish to openly bust Santa on Christmas. For me it actually started a personal investigation on the whole Christmas ordeal and started building a wedge into my feelings about Christianity also because of the Nativity aspect being interwoven into the holiday. Once sure that Santa was a falsehood it made me question the rest of the whole thing including the three kings following a bright light in the sky etc. Not long after the whole thing unraveled for me and the beginnings of a young atheist started to develop.

So the Santa myth left you scarred for life..poor kid..

 

[HUGGY]

I see, so ego and self value are all warped in your.. belief

This is where I am supposed to apologize for who I am and on what I have spent my life working. That you decided to waste your life evangelizing instead of learning something about nature is on you, not me.

No need to apologize just keep it in perspective..

From my perspective, you have no real training in, experience, or understanding of science. And yet you think you can play at the adult table when it comes to scientific issues. Either get a real education or let the educated adults have these discussions because, frankly, I don't care whether or not you actually understand any of the evidence I've posted here.

yes I see you invested many years in taking information and regurgitating it and I am not impressed the world is full of buffoons with degrees. perhaps it my lack of such indoctrination that allows me to see that..

One species does not "turn into" another or several other species -- not in an instant, anyway. The evolutionary process of speciation is how one population of a species changes over time to the point where that population is distinct and can no longer interbreed with the "parent" population...blah blah blah etc etc etc...
if the populations have been separate for long enough, that even if brought back together and given the opportunity to interbreed they won't, or they won't be successful if they try....
Is speculation and reads like a cheap novel

Ever notice how often evolutionists use words like maybe, could have and probably?

It's called honesty. Try it sometime. Admitting you are not absolutely sure about one small aspect of something is not stating one knows nothing about everything. Saying god is the pat answer to everything is a dishonest and a patently weak answer to every question you have not yet resolved. Try taking personal responsibility for your thinking process.

 

[HUGGY]

No it isn't. That's just your leap. Show us proof that one species became another.

I will provide you will an explanation that someone at your level of education (or lack thereof) should be able to grasp:

Evolution Frequently Asked Questions

1. How can one species "turn into" another?

One species does not "turn into" another or several other species -- not in an instant, anyway. The evolutionary process of speciation is how one population of a species changes over time to the point where that population is distinct and can no longer interbreed with the "parent" population. In order for one population to diverge enough from another to become a new species, there needs to be something to keep the populations from mixing. Often a physical boundary divides the species into two (or more) populations and keeps them from interbreeding. If separated for long enough and presented with sufficiently varied environmental conditions, each population takes its own distinct evolutionary path. Sometimes the division between the populations is never breached, and reproductive isolation remains intact purely for geographical reasons. It is possible, though, if the populations have been separate for long enough, that even if brought back together and given the opportunity to interbreed they won't, or they won't be successful if they try.

I asked for proof, not speculation. Can't you follow simple instructions, moron?

They have no proof. It takes as much faith, if not more, to believe evolution rather than Creation. Evolution has countless impossible hurdles to jump through. Creation has just one. The existence of God. The simplest explanation is usually the truth.

The same does not go for the simplest speculation. The simplest speculation for why there are presents under the tree to a 5 year old is Santa Claus. The truth of course is that the parents went to a lot of trouble and deception to hide the gifts and make sure the children are in the dark as they wrap these presents. Manufacturers and retail outlets help prolong the deceit. There is a man dressed up in a fake beard and red suit at every mall. To a 5 year old there is overwhelming proof that Santa is real.

When I was 5 I told my folks that I appreciated the presents but no longer wanted to get free stuff from Santa. The whole thing was made up and I wanted no part in the ruse. It just seemed silly. At some point in one's relationship with your parents you just would rather have a foundation based on truth and mutual respect. A child might feel better not being lied to even if there is a monetary reward for playing along. When a kid starts feeling like he or she is being bribed to accept playing a part it can be harmful and even foster resentment.

Many of you probably see this point of view as selfish to openly bust Santa on Christmas. For me it actually started a personal investigation on the whole Christmas ordeal and started building a wedge into my feelings about Christianity also because of the Nativity aspect being interwoven into the holiday. Once sure that Santa was a falsehood it made me question the rest of the whole thing including the three kings following a bright light in the sky etc. Not long after the whole thing unraveled for me and the beginnings of a young atheist started to develop.

So the Santa myth left you scarred for life..poor kid..

Scarred? Hardly. It was refreshing to start unraveling some of the nonsense. It gave me more faith in my own ability to reason things out. It also started a 100% honest relationship with my parents which was enjoyed by them and I.

 

[S.J.]

This thread isn't about God, it's about evolution. Why do you guys always try to change the subject? Can't you make a case for evolution on it's own merits without trying to win the debate by default? Do you think if you can challenge the existence of a creator that will somehow make the case for evolution?

 

[orogenicman]

This thread isn't about God, it's about evolution. Why do you guys always try to change the subject? Can't you make a case for evolution on it's own merits without trying to win the debate by default? Do you think if you can challenge the existence of a creator that will somehow make the case for evolution?

This thread has never been about evolution. It has been about you religious nut cases creating a forum in which you can babble on endlessly about how much you hate science and demonstrate to the world how completely clueless you people are.

 

[Hollie]

I asked for proof, not speculation. Can't you follow simple instructions, moron?

First of all, science is not about proof. Mathematics is about proof. Science is about verifiable, repeatable evidence. You can't get past 5th grade science, and yet you call me a moron? That's very funny.

And yet evolution has no verifiable, repeatable evidence. That should tell you something right there. Assuming you had a functioning brain, that is.

What evidence for evolution do you believe is not verifiable, or repeatable. Be specific.

well you seem refuse to accept there is no evidence or observation of one species transition to another and try to explain it away with a story that could rival that of noah and seems to require faith

You hit the nail on the head. Evolution requires more faith than creationism.

There is no requirement for faith in the mechanisms of science. Faith is only a requirement for belief in magical spirit realms.

 

[orogenicman]

Some days I wish I had received a crappy education so the utter bullshit posted on threads like this didn't bother me so much.

 

[Hollie]

Origin by Design - Harold G. Coffin Robert H. Brown R. James Gibson - Google Books

The Age-of-the-Earth Debate - Scientific American

Top 10 Space Conspiracy Theories - HowStuffWorks

Its sad really..your use of strawman it reeks of some kind of desperation I do not understand

Your meetings at the Flat Earth Society must be a real hoot.

flat earth ? you really do live in private world of your own little Imaginings ,don't you

No at all. I read the attempts at argument made by you Flat Earth Society promoters and let your own skewed arguments self-refute.

 

[Hollie]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

A fact? Then show us the proof.

The FACT that Evolution occurs is supported by biological, fossil, geologic and recently......DNA evidence

God is just a theory......A theory unsupported by scientific evidence

No it isn't. That's just your leap. Show us proof that one species became another.

It's not at all unusual that the profoundly ignorant deniers of the physical and biological sciences typically spill out of the Henry Morris Institute for the Intellectually Crippled (AKA the Institute for Creation Research).

Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ

CC200 Transitional fossils

CC200.1 Transitional fossil abundance

 

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

A fact? Then show us the proof.

The FACT that Evolution occurs is supported by biological, fossil, geologic and recently......DNA evidence

God is just a theory......A theory unsupported by scientific evidence

No it isn't. That's just your leap. Show us proof that one species became another.

One species does not become another, they have common ancestors. Their comonality to those ancestors has been proven by biological, fossil and DNA evidence

 

[rightwinger]

And yet evolution has no verifiable, repeatable evidence. That should tell you something right there. Assuming you had a functioning brain, that is.

What evidence for evolution do you believe is not verifiable, or repeatable. Be specific.

well you seem refuse to accept there is no evidence or observation of one species transition to another and try to explain it away with a story that could rival that of noah and seems to require faith

I am a geologist, so why would I accept the lie that evolution is not real? What qualifications do you have to tell anyone that evolution is not real

Appeal to authority ? What qualifications do you have does a butterfly have to navigate a flight of thousands of miles..what qualifications does a geologist have to deny
an intelligent and infinite universe

There are no authorities in science, only experts. I have 26 years of field expertize in geology, and am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology. I am also a longtime amateur astronomer. What science expertize do you have? Any at all? Of course, you don't have any. All you have is your faith, and we all know that faith is a belief in something not in evidence.

Worse than his faith, he has his conspiracy theories

 

[eots]

What evidence for evolution do you believe is not verifiable, or repeatable. Be specific.

well you seem refuse to accept there is no evidence or observation of one species transition to another and try to explain it away with a story that could rival that of noah and seems to require faith

I am a geologist, so why would I accept the lie that evolution is not real? What qualifications do you have to tell anyone that evolution is not real

Appeal to authority ? What qualifications do you have does a butterfly have to navigate a flight of thousands of miles..what qualifications does a geologist have to deny
an intelligent and infinite universe

There are no authorities in science, only experts. I have 26 years of field expertize in geology, and am published in the Journal of Invertebrate Paleontology. I am also a longtime amateur astronomer. What science expertize do you have? Any at all? Of course, you don't have any. All you have is your faith, and we all know that faith is a belief in something not in evidence.

Worse than his faith, he has his conspiracy theories

what a fkn moron

 

[eots]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

A fact? Then show us the proof.

The FACT that Evolution occurs is supported by biological, fossil, geologic and recently......DNA evidence

God is just a theory......A theory unsupported by scientific evidence

No it isn't. That's just your leap. Show us proof that one species became another.

One species does not become another, they have common ancestors. Their comonality to those ancestors has been proven by biological, fossil and DNA evidence

big whoop..means nothing

 

[Old Rocks]

No, Eots, the morons are you fellows that go up against literally mountains of evidence with your willfull ignorance.

 

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

A fact? Then show us the proof.

The FACT that Evolution occurs is supported by biological, fossil, geologic and recently......DNA evidence

God is just a theory......A theory unsupported by scientific evidence

No it isn't. That's just your leap. Show us proof that one species became another.

One species does not become another, they have common ancestors. Their comonality to those ancestors has been proven by biological, fossil and DNA evidence

big whoop..means nothing

Can we discuss gravity next?

 

[eots]

No, Eots, the morons are you fellows that go up against literally mountains of evidence with your willfull ignorance.

willfull ignorance?.

 

[eots]

Evolution is a....Fact

God is a theory

A fact? Then show us the proof.

The FACT that Evolution occurs is supported by biological, fossil, geologic and recently......DNA evidence

God is just a theory......A theory unsupported by scientific evidence

No it isn't. That's just your leap. Show us proof that one species became another.

One species does not become another, they have common ancestors. Their comonality to those ancestors has been proven by biological, fossil and DNA evidence

I will provide you will an explanation that someone at your level of education (or lack thereof) should be able to grasp:

Evolution Frequently Asked Questions

1. How can one species "turn into" another?

One species does not "turn into" another or several other species -- not in an instant, anyway. The evolutionary process of speciation is how one population of a species changes over time to the point where that population is distinct and can no longer interbreed with the "parent" population. In order for one population to diverge enough from another to become a new species, there needs to be something to keep the populations from mixing. Often a physical boundary divides the species into two (or more) populations and keeps them from interbreeding. If separated for long enough and presented with sufficiently varied environmental conditions, each population takes its own distinct evolutionary path. Sometimes the division between the populations is never breached, and reproductive isolation remains intact purely for geographical reasons. It is possible, though, if the populations have been separate for long enough, that even if brought back together and given the opportunity to interbreed they won't, or they won't be successful if they try.

I asked for proof, not speculation. Can't you follow simple instructions, moron?

They have no proof. It takes as much faith, if not more, to believe evolution rather than Creation. Evolution has countless impossible hurdles to jump through. Creation has just one. The existence of God. The simplest explanation is usually the truth.

The same does not go for the simplest speculation. The simplest speculation for why there are presents under the tree to a 5 year old is Santa Claus. The truth of course is that the parents went to a lot of trouble and deception to hide the gifts and make sure the children are in the dark as they wrap these presents. Manufacturers and retail outlets help prolong the deceit. There is a man dressed up in a fake beard and red suit at every mall. To a 5 year old there is overwhelming proof that Santa is real.

When I was 5 I told my folks that I appreciated the presents but no longer wanted to get free stuff from Santa. The whole thing was made up and I wanted no part in the ruse. It just seemed silly. At some point in one's relationship with your parents you just would rather have a foundation based on truth and mutual respect. A child might feel better not being lied to even if there is a monetary reward for playing along. When a kid starts feeling like he or she is being bribed to accept playing a part it can be harmful and even foster resentment.

Many of you probably see this point of view as selfish to openly bust Santa on Christmas. For me it actually started a personal investigation on the whole Christmas ordeal and started building a wedge into my feelings about Christianity also because of the Nativity aspect being interwoven into the holiday. Once sure that Santa was a falsehood it made me question the rest of the whole thing including the three kings following a bright light in the sky etc. Not long after the whole thing unraveled for me and the beginnings of a young atheist started to develop.

So the Santa myth left you scarred for life..poor kid..

Scarred? Hardly. It was refreshing to start unraveling some of the nonsense. It gave me more faith in my own ability to reason things out. It also started a 100% honest relationship with my parents which was enjoyed by them and I.

Really I thought it was about a person who
could not produce the mountain of evidence
referenced in the OP..and Instead just tried to use appeal to authority by claiming how educated he is ...