Where do YOU Think Gov't Should Cut Spending?

[GoneBezerk]

Hmmmm, combine the FBI (law enforcement) with the CIA (foreign intelligence service).

Oh yeah, that would go over well with voters and legal minds.....not.

The FBI is supposed to go after Americans and foreigners that harm Americans as a Federal police force.

The CIA is supposed to spy on other countries and foreigners to protect the US overall.

It would not be legal to have spies working with Federal police...

Off the top of my head

Cut the tsa
Cut the dept of education
Combine CIA and FBI

 

[AmyNation]

Either combine them, or seriously reduce both and narrow their scope as both agencies overlap enough that it is an unneeded expense.

 

[Intense]

An across the board cut of a certain percentage together with some increase in revenues should show we're serious, thereby inspiring confidence and allowing the marketplace to take care of the rest.

You realize that if Congress does nothing with the "fiscal cliff", that is exactly what happens.

That's too draconian. It would take money out of the pockets of those that can least afford it.

Who's money would that be in the first place? No more magic tricks, please. Give me my watch and wallet back while you're at it.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Oh yeah....we don't need the FBI or CIA.

Well given my experience that far exceeds you, I'd say it is a good thing having the CIA going after terrorists and the FBI doing it too, to make sure we double our efforts and assets to kill them.

There's this thing called single point of failure that you are clueless about....housewife.

Either combine them, or seriously reduce both and narrow their scope as both agencies overlap enough that it is an unneeded expense.

 

[AmyNation]

I never said we don't need them, I said they are too big and they overlap enough that they should be combined in to one agency, or be reduced with a more narrow scope.

 

[AmyNation]

Also, lol to you using housewife as an insult!

 

[GoneBezerk]

You are low educated and not experienced in much.

You should go on TV telling the world we don't need the FBI and CIA doing separate things....then tell everyone your background....now that would get some laughs.

Oh there's this little thing called Federal Law that authorizes what the CIA does and what the FBI does....like U.S.C. Title 50 is for the CIA. Congress has to authorize your grand plan....good luck, Ms Butterworth.

Also, lol to you using housewife as an insult!

 

[AmyNation]

Yes yes I know, we need big brother to keep us safe! Terrorists might get us! We need the FBI and CIA and tsa and dept of homeland security and the patriot act! What terror level are we are today? We need them to be bigger! Don't worry about how much it cost! Or how shady their practices! Or whether they violate your freedoms!

 

[Oddball]

But if you're not guilty of anything, you have nothing to worry about!

 

[healthmyths]

Without doing that, they will get NOTHING.

The system is going broke, so soon rich people will be banned from getting a dime back after they paid into the system for decades.

It is wrong someone that makes $35,000 a year pays Social Security on all their income and someone that makes a million a year only pays taxes up to whatever the ceiling is....$85,000?

Everyone should pay into Social Security against all their income, so everyone that pays can get something back in the end.

Slash the Department of Energy, Education, and HHS.

Slash Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, welfare, etc.

Raise the Social Security tax on all income, no income ceiling. It doesn't make sense the system is going broke but we don't take income above a certain level.

Oh, destroy Obamacare....that's about $2T saved.

Fuck raising Social Security taxes. Why should the rich pay more if they aren't going to receive more?

You think your employer should pay into SS/Medicare on your behalf? Would that help?

 

[Darkwind]

Just a thought, but where would you think the government needs to cut spending?

Why don't we try this.

Social Security and Medicare are allegedly deducted from each persons earnings so that they will have this money at a later date.

Write the budget so that all money collected from people for these two programs is put in a government ledger that cannot be touched for any reason other than medicare and social security payouts.

Now look at the total federal government expenditures. What is left and how much money are they bringing in?

Since nothing matters if we cannot defend ourselves against our collective enemies, and since the defense budget is explicitly listed in the Constitution, we can put that on the table (AFTER) we have looked at every other expenditure that exists.

So, tell Me people. What is left in the federal budget? How much money does the government bring in that is NOT social security and medicare taxation?

Please don't bother to reply with nonsense about your talking points. If you can't do this simple exercise, then you aren't here to have a rational debate, your here to make war on your fellow American citizens.

 

[AmyNation]

The SS and Medicare you pay, is supposed to pay for those who use it now, not what you will use in the future.

 

[saveliberty]

A business has to have a return on investment. I think the government should have a similiar standard.

 

[eflatminor]

A business has to have a return on investment. I think the government should have a similiar standard.

Advertising on the Capital dome? Hey, we're broke, I say go for it.

 

[saveliberty]

A business has to have a return on investment. I think the government should have a similiar standard.

Advertising on the Capital dome? Hey, we're broke, I say go for it.

I was thinking more like rent out the Lincoln bedroom by the hour.

 

[Billo_Really]

Just a thought, but where would you think the government needs to cut spending?

Here's what we need to do:

• cut the defense budget in half
• end these bullshit wars we've been fighting for the last 10 years at $12 billion a month
• close most of the over 800 bases we have all over the world; but give the host country the option of having the base stay there, but we'll send them a bill for all the operating costs of the base; if a nation wants our base in their country, then they can pay for it.
• close all these loopholes that allow corporations to off-shore their profits so they don't have to pay taxes on them
• raise capitol gains and dividend taxes 10%
• stop sending money to Israel

But before we do all that, we must get people back to work. And if the private sector won't do it, the public sector has to. Jobs are more important than cutting the deficit. The deficit can wait. We need jobs and no more fuckin' excuses.

 

[Oddball]

The subject is cutting spending, not finding better ways to shake down taxpayers.

And, as usual, the lolberal's spending cut list begins and ends with military spending...As though there's absolutely no waste, fraud, abuse and plain old stupidity to be cut out of the domestic socialistic welfare state.

 

[Pheonixops]

Just a thought, but where would you think the government needs to cut spending?

I think that we should cut spending across the board by a few percentage points and raise the income tax across the board for everyone by 1% and see how that does.

 

[Glensather]

The subject is cutting spending, not finding better ways to shake down taxpayers.

And, as usual, the lolberal's spending cut list begins and ends with military spending...As though there's absolutely no waste, fraud, abuse and plain old stupidity to be cut out of the domestic socialistic welfare state.

I can't speak for liberals, but I do think a little bit of scaling back on Defense couldn't hurt. I don't want to gut it because I love the military and everything it stands for, but there's got to be some extraneous things that we can get rid of.

For example, the huge failure that is the V-22 Osprey.

 

[BreezeWood]

Did you even bother to read the thread title, moron?

"Where do YOU Think Gov't Should Cut Spending?"

How does your post EVEN COME CLOSE to addressing the question?

Other (Please Explain)

with an adequate source of income from the sectors able to afford it, is the basis for whether spending cuts are necessary or not.

there may be adequate revenue to maintain present levels of necessary spending while reducing the budget deficit by tax code legislation alone - as proved during the Clinton Administration of management over hyperbole.

IOW, we don't have to cut spending if we can raise taxes high enough?

Let me repeat myself from a different thread. You can 'tax the rich' 100%, liquidate their assets AND liquidate the Fortune 500, it still won't get you what you need to maintain current spending, let alone reduce the debt.

Then what do you do NEXT year?

IOW, we don't have to cut spending if we can raise taxes high enough?


no, the situation only exists because of the Republican "Reconciliation" 2003 Tax Legislation and the unfunded (immoral) Republican Iraqi war.

simply allow the laws enacted (fiscal cliff) to be enforced January 2nd without the spending cuts and the strengthened economy with the extra revenue will solve the problem -

however the opportunity to revamp the tax code would be better as suggested above and would be palatable for the public because they would in most part be paying nearly the same as at present with the burden significantly shifted to those most able to afford it.