Where Are The Arguments Against America First?

So then you admit it was bypassed. Harris has NOT A SINGLE PRIMARY VOTE IN TWO ELECTIONS. Bypassed.
Nope. Are you illiterate? I wrote that we had one and then the nominee dropped out. Do you know what by passed means......? Is that the problem? :dunno:
SHOW ME THE LAW that allows the DNC to just pick a new nominee by themselves bypassing the voters after the primaries are over and the person 14 million people voted for just drops out in the 11th hour after saying he never would?
It's not so much law as legal precedent protecting freedom of association. Private groups get to determine how they organize and operate. It's like asking how Al Bundys No Ma'am organization nominated its President. The answer is however they chose to.
I've asked twice now. You got nothing. You are done here.
It's not my fault you don't understand that the government doesn't get to control how we assemble to petition them for redress.
 
Have you noticed? In the Media, on the TV, in the Web or here on USMB, every discussion, every heated argument, every thread is against TRUMP! Not only do you never see any JUSTIFICATION for what exactly it is the Harris would do, her POLICIES that would be so much better than Trump's plans, but nothing criticizing Trump plans!

Or anything he actually DID when president. The entire election debate by the Left has been made PERSONAL.

It is all aimed at THE MAN HIMSELF. Trump. You know, that fat, overweight, orange golfer who eats poorly and used to camp around with international models. Every attack is either against HIM or his SUPPORTERS.

You know, those awful, DEPLORABLE, country hicks, hillbillies, backwoods people who have never even had electricity who drive horse-drawn wagons and sleep with their cousins who support Trump. Still living in the 19th century. It is the same bias they cleverly disguised in the 1960s as The Beverly Hillbillies and in the 1970s with Archie Bunker.

In the vernacular of logic, we call that an AD HOMINEM attack--- attacking not the message but the MESSENGER. This is a fallacious argument, it is a personal rather than logical argument first recognized and defined by Aristotle himself. It is a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.

We have seen it all here countless times by people like Mac1958 and numerous others.

This is the Left. This is the substance of the entire case against Trump (and his supporters). That is the basis of the entire "cult" argument, that by minimizing or delegitimizing the people themselves, you avoid the argument itself. Basically, those attacking Trump, their entire case is: "We didn't like him in 2016 and we still don't like him now." Even when they manage to point to some event, it isn't actually about anything that Trump or his supporters themselves really did, but a situation THE LEFT CREATED that merely INVOLVED Trump or his supporters that they created or drew these people into as a result of their embittered dislike of him.

I dare the Left to present an actual argument here that ISN'T about Trump the man or his supporters! But they cannot. They never do. Worse, they use this same crutch, JUST AS WITH JOE BIDEN in 2020, as their ENTIRE CASE FOR SUPPORTING KAMALA HARRIS. I mean, was there ever a single time since 2020 that you ever heard anyone say: "Gee, instead of Joe, I sure wish we had Harris as president instead?"

The entire case AGAINST Trump or FOR Harris, it is all based on a cleverly disguised leftwing fallacy. This is the core of the means of defeating Kamala Harris at the voting polls--- The Left actually have NO REAL ARGUMENT as to why Trump shouldn't be president or that Harris should be, other than THEY JUST DON'T LIKE HIM.



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The reason you cannot see these things you clain do not exist is because like most MAGAt cultroaches you are literally a poster child for the effects of confirmation bias and The Dunning Kruger effect on the low lying, low information fruit of the U.S.' electorate.
In other words you only see what you want to and what reinforces your ignorant opinions.
For instance, read this and it will provide a full answer to your ridiculous question.
Bet you won't (or can't) though.

 
I guess the Left STILL DOES NOT GET IT.

The case here is THIS:


ORANGE MAN JUST BAD. :CryingCow: YOU DON'T LIKE THE BIG ORANGE ALPHA MALE. :crying:
Pure economics:
Biden Harris:
4% unemployment
2.4% inflation
Debt rising

Trump:
14% unemployment
tariff driven inflation
Debt forecast to rise 2x forecast Harris.
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The reason you cannot see these things you clain do not exist
What did I claim did not exist? Why don't you present them if they are real?

is because like most MAGAt cultroaches you are literally a poster child for the effects of confirmation bias and The Dunning Kruger effect on the low lying, low information fruit of the U.S.'
So, in other words, just as I keep saying: Trump, Trump and Trump. All you can do is attack the messenger because you cannot defend against the message that Trump was a good president and his policies are good for America, much less that Harris would be so much better. Just prove me wrong.

In other words you only see what you want to and what reinforces your ignorant opinions.
Me, me and me. Attack the messenger. Thanks for proving my case that you have NO ACTIUAL ARGUMENT AGAINST TRUMP AS PRESIDENT other than you just don't like the man nor his supporters! :auiqs.jpg:

For instance, read this and it will provide a full answer to your ridiculous question.
Your article is a pathetic diatribe. First, it admits it is just one man's opinion, then it goes into several arguments against Trump based on highly inaccurate accounting of what really happened!
  1. DEFICIT: much of that was spent repairing a military ignored by Obama because Obama was too busy trying to pass QE1, QE2 and ACA. The rest of Trump's deficit was the result of a global pandemic shutdown that was not the result of anything Trump did.
  2. WEAKENED DEMOCRACY: we are not even a democracy! Nor did Trump try to stage a government coup. He tried to challenge and test a corrupt, illegal election. The actual coup was done by those who rammed it through, blocked all questions and investigation of it saying all questions were baseless and disproven before they were even asked. The real threat to our republic came from a government who pressured social media to shadow ban anyone questioning the election while they blocked evidence they knew to be true that would have cost Biden the election.
  3. EMBOLDENING DICTATORS: that is laughable. Trump actually shut down both Putin and Kim from launching missiles over Japan, threatening the USA or invading other countries, while controlling Jinping. The exact opposite to emboldening them. In contrast, we now have war in Ukraine, war in the Middle East again and are on the precipice of war with China over Taiwan with good ol' Joe in office!
  4. REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS: there is no such thing. You have a right not to get pregnant by keeping your legs closed. Just because you tramp around getting knocked up twice a year does not give you the right to keep aborting the resulting children. The SCOTUS merely followed the Constitution and gave control of the decision on how to handle abortion back to the 50 local state governments. Contrary to Trump's bragging, he actually had no say in the SC's decision or what the states each did with it after they got control back. BTW, abortions are actually UP since the Dobb's decision.
  5. HATRED: seriously? Aside from the fact that Dems tout crime as being DOWN, most of the hatred all comes from the Left. Hatred in this country does not depend on the claim a few Haitians were eating pets in Ohio, get real. You people have been SEETHING hatred of Trump for eight years. He has even had 2-3 attempts now made on his life.
  6. BORDER PROMISES: Really? Trump did more than any other president, got the wall mostly built despite 110% effort to block it by democrats, even finally got Mexico to cooperate. Then Biden dismantled it all on DAY ONE and the flood began.
Thanks for providing this asinine link which you couldn't even be bothered to expound on yourself. Too bad it is a tissue of lies all based on easily disproven bull.
 
What did I claim did not exist? Why don't you present them if they are real?


So, in other words, just as I keep saying: Trump, Trump and Trump. All you can do is attack the messenger because you cannot defend against the message that Trump was a good president and his policies are good for America, much less that Harris would be so much better. Just prove me wrong.


Me, me and me. Attack the messenger. Thanks for proving my case that you have NO ACTIUAL ARGUMENT AGAINST TRUMP AS PRESIDENT other than you just don't like the man nor his supporters! :auiqs.jpg:


Your article is a pathetic diatribe. First, it admits it is just one man's opinion, then it goes into several arguments against Trump based on highly inaccurate accounting of what really happened!
  1. DEFICIT: much of that was spent repairing a military ignored by Obama because Obama was too busy trying to pass QE1, QE2 and ACA. The rest of Trump's deficit was the result of a global pandemic shutdown that was not the result of anything Trump did.
  2. WEAKENED DEMOCRACY: we are not even a democracy! Nor did Trump try to stage a government coup. He tried to challenge and test a corrupt, illegal election. The actual coup was done by those who rammed it through, blocked all questions and investigation of it saying all questions were baseless and disproven before they were even asked. The real threat to our republic came from a government who pressured social media to shadow ban anyone questioning the election while they blocked evidence they knew to be true that would have cost Biden the election.
  3. EMBOLDENING DICTATORS: that is laughable. Trump actually shut down both Putin and Kim from launching missiles over Japan, threatening the USA or invading other countries, while controlling Jinping. The exact opposite to emboldening them. In contrast, we now have war in Ukraine, war in the Middle East again and are on the precipice of war with China over Taiwan with good ol' Joe in office!
  4. REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS: there is no such thing. You have a right not to get pregnant by keeping your legs closed. Just because you tramp around getting knocked up twice a year does not give you the right to keep aborting the resulting children. The SCOTUS merely followed the Constitution and gave control of the decision on how to handle abortion back to the 50 local state governments. Contrary to Trump's bragging, he actually had no say in the SC's decision or what the states each did with it after they got control back. BTW, abortions are actually UP since the Dobb's decision.
  5. HATRED: seriously? Aside from the fact that Dems tout crime as being DOWN, most of the hatred all comes from the Left. Hatred in this country does not depend on the claim a few Haitians were eating pets in Ohio, get real. You people have been SEETHING hatred of Trump for eight years. He has even had 2-3 attempts now made on his life.
  6. BORDER PROMISES: Really? Trump did more than any other president, got the wall mostly built despite 110% effort to block it by democrats, even finally got Mexico to cooperate. Then Biden dismantled it all on DAY ONE and the flood began.
Thanks for providing this asinine link which you couldn't even be bothered to expound on yourself. Too bad it is a tissue of lies all based on easily disproven bull.
Thank you for proving my point about Dunning Kruger Effect and confirmation bias.
BTW, you are in a cult. Know how I can tell?
Your fake news cult propaganda talking points give you away.
 
Have you noticed? In the Media, on the TV, in the Web or here on USMB, every discussion, every heated argument, every thread is against TRUMP! Not only do you never see any JUSTIFICATION for what exactly it is the Harris would do, her POLICIES that would be so much better than Trump's plans, but nothing criticizing Trump plans!

Or anything he actually DID when president. The entire election debate by the Left has been made PERSONAL.

It is all aimed at THE MAN HIMSELF. Trump. You know, that fat, overweight, orange golfer who eats poorly and used to camp around with international models. Every attack is either against HIM or his SUPPORTERS.

You know, those awful, DEPLORABLE, country hicks, hillbillies, backwoods people who have never even had electricity who drive horse-drawn wagons and sleep with their cousins who support Trump. Still living in the 19th century. It is the same bias they cleverly disguised in the 1960s as The Beverly Hillbillies and in the 1970s with Archie Bunker.

In the vernacular of logic, we call that an AD HOMINEM attack--- attacking not the message but the MESSENGER. This is a fallacious argument, it is a personal rather than logical argument first recognized and defined by Aristotle himself. It is a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.

We have seen it all here countless times by people like Mac1958 and numerous others.

This is the Left. This is the substance of the entire case against Trump (and his supporters). That is the basis of the entire "cult" argument, that by minimizing or delegitimizing the people themselves, you avoid the argument itself. Basically, those attacking Trump, their entire case is: "We didn't like him in 2016 and we still don't like him now." Even when they manage to point to some event, it isn't actually about anything that Trump or his supporters themselves really did, but a situation THE LEFT CREATED that merely INVOLVED Trump or his supporters that they created or drew these people into as a result of their embittered dislike of him.

I dare the Left to present an actual argument here that ISN'T about Trump the man or his supporters! But they cannot. They never do. Worse, they use this same crutch, JUST AS WITH JOE BIDEN in 2020, as their ENTIRE CASE FOR SUPPORTING KAMALA HARRIS. I mean, was there ever a single time since 2020 that you ever heard anyone say: "Gee, instead of Joe, I sure wish we had Harris as president instead?"

The entire case AGAINST Trump or FOR Harris, it is all based on a cleverly disguised leftwing fallacy. This is the core of the means of defeating Kamala Harris at the voting polls--- The Left actually have NO REAL ARGUMENT as to why Trump shouldn't be president or that Harris should be, other than THEY JUST DON'T LIKE HIM.



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Perhaps over half of the voters don't think Trump is about america first. And if he wasnt' such a lying contemptable sexual assaulting narcistic asshole, they might reconsider.
 
There are none
Instead it’s claptrap about everyone being identically equal in every aspect
 
Thank you for proving my point about Dunning Kruger Effect and confirmation bias.
I proved nothing except that your linked article was slanted BS whose every claim was flawed and specious. Noted is your non-effort to prove otherwise. I also thank you for again showing that you have no arguments against Trump policies so must continually attack either the man himself or his supporters.
You have made no actual arguments here other than the usual "ignore the man behind the curtain!" :auiqs.jpg:

BTW, you are in a cult. Know how I can tell?
Your fake news cult propaganda talking points give you away.
Cult, cult and cult. Try to marginalize the messenger via ad hominems because you HAVE NO ACTUAL CASE AGAINST THE POLICES.
Just as I stated in my OP.
You are dismissed.
 
Kamala is sinking in DEEP Shit! Think of the Titanic. Only 2 hours before she sinks! :)
 
I proved nothing
Exactly
I also thank you for again showing that you have no arguments against Trump policies
I linked to the arguments against the twice-impeached, feloniously convicted, rape-adjudicated former president.
You responded with fake news, cultroach propaganda.
That is because you are in a cult.
 
It is your burden to make the case I am wrong. You failed. Play another word game with me instead of adddressing the topic of the OP and I'll put you on IGNORE.

I linked to the arguments
All disproven as bunk. You could not even make the arguments yourself so linked to some half-baked article written by a clear partisan. Pathetic.

against the twice-impeached, feloniously convicted, rape-adjudicated former president.
TRUMP! :rock: I love how you just keep proving me rght.

You responded with fake news, cultroach propaganda.
That is because you are in a cult.
Yet you cannot show how a thing I said is "fake." I can prove everything I say. All part of the historical record. No need to "interpret."
You? CULT! CULT! CULT!

Thank you for making my case. All you have is your hate for the man, demonstrated even before he won the 2016 election.
You are so TDS, you can't even make any case for Harris (except that she ISN'T Trump). :lmao:
 
Trump shouldn't be president because his policies are moronic, unworkable, and will do nothing but cause misery. His appointments to the Supreme Court while he was in office have shown that to be true.
You are projecting the results of the current admin on Trump. Wake up.
 
Play another word game with me instead of adddressing the topic of the OP and I'll put you on IGNORE.
I never mind it when the trash takes itself out.
Go for it you simple-minded cultist.
Go hide with BackAgain and the others I have sent off into hiding with their tails between their legs.
I am sure I will not miss you.
You are being lied to and just l8ke all other MAGAt cultroaches you are too fucking stupid to see it.
Go ahead. Piss off!
:fu:

For example, a woman asked about grocery prices, and Trump explained in response that “people don’t think of grocery,” that we’re going to do a lot of things, and our farmers aren’t being treated well, and we had a deal with China, and President Xi is a “fierce man,” and we’re gonna get the farmers “straightened out,” and also Black jobs, and Hispanic jobs, and when millions of people come across the border, the unions are going to have a problem, and they’re coming from jails, and prisons, and mental institutions and insane asylums — “you know that’s like a step above, insane asylum” — and whenever he talks about Hannibal Lecter, the Fake News, look at the Fake News back there, whenever he talks about Hannibal Lecter people say why are you talking about Hannibal Lecter and he says, “You know why? Because he was a sick puppy! And we have sick puppies coming into our country! I figure that’s better than wasting a lot of words, you just say Hannibal Lecter …”

He got one question about helping small from a restaurant owner, and he started babbling about gas vs. electric, and said it’s fine with him if you want to use gas or electric, but you can’t have hydrogen cars, because hydrogen cars blow up, and if your hydrogen car blows up your wife won’t be able to recognize you, in summary and in conclusion, “energy costs.”

He encouraged people — no, this is true! all of it is true! — to vote “on January 5, OR BEFORE!”

But then somebody had a medical emergency. So of course, they started playing “Ave Maria” over the PA, at Trump’s request, because that’s not weird, that’s cool and hip. (If your target voter base is white people who died in 1958.)

Medical emergency number two. “Ave Maria” number two

Trump then resumed. Minutes later, another attendee needed medical attention. Trump stopped again. “Take your time, doctor,” he said, and “Ave Maria” began to play again. Trump then quipped to the crowd: “Would anybody else like to faint? Please raise your hand. Let’s do it now.”
He demanded “Ave Maria” be played a third time, this time sung by Pavarotti, while they brought out the chart he believes saved his life in Butler, Pennsylvania, the chart he says he now sleeps with and kisses. Presumably he grabs the chart by the pussy.

“Ave Maria! Nice and loud! Turn it up loud! We want a little action here! Turn it up louder!”

And then they just ended the town hall early, and proceeded to 39 full minutes of Trump doing his confused, lonely bopping, and his imaginary conducting, and his trademark “jerking two cocks at once” dance.

“Let’s not do any more questions. Let’s just listen to music. Let’s make it into a music. Who the hell wants to hear questions, right?” he said.

Steven Cheung, the absolute loser who takes a paycheck in exchange for his dignity to try to pretend things like this are cool and awesome, tried to pretend this was cool and awesome:

He tweeted, “Total lovefest at the PA townhall! Everyone was so excited they were fainting so @realDonaldTrump turned to music. Nobody wanted to leave and wanted to hear more songs from the famous DJT Spotify playlist!”

Like people were throwing their fuckin’ panties at the stage.

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Last night, at almost 1 a.m., Trump started completely losing it over growing demands that he release his medical records, and claiming that Kamala Harris’s seasonal allergies render her unable to perform the duties of president.

This morning, Trump is claiming that things went great last night, just great: “I had a Town Hall in Pennsylvania last night. It was amazing! The Q and A was almost finished when people began fainting from the excitement and heat. We started playing music while we waited, and just kept it going. So different, but it ended up being a GREAT EVENING!”

As we were finishing this piece, news was breaking that Trump had suddenly canceled a planned CNBC interview for later this week.

Also that maybe Harris is going to go on Joe Rogan, on top of her Fox News interview tomorrow night.

Plus a new Morning Consult national poll has Harris up 50-46.

At this rate, does anybody actually think if Trump was “elected,” he wouldn’t just immediately resign and have President Couchy McFuckerton pardon him, as per the terms of the deal we totally wouldn’t be surprised to learn they’ve made?



 
Because the globalists are behind ALL of this. Their New World Order movement has been going almost completely unchallenged since 1988 (Bush Sr, the original Godfather who introduced us to the name). In 2016 they suddenly were faced with someone who opposed them sitting right in the Oval Office. They didn't expect it and it drove them batshit crazy. Taking crawling out of the woodwork like termites. Or maybe I should say they started flying out of the nest like Yellow Jackets stinging everything in sight. All these people are about is using America as a host and ultimately using its military to push the world around while they steal resources and trespass all over the world, meanwhile using the media to interpret it different to the public than things really are.
 
Because the globalists are behind ALL of this. Their New World Order movement has been going almost completely unchallenged since 1988 (Bush Sr, the original Godfather who introduced us to the name). In 2016 they suddenly were faced with someone who opposed them sitting right in the Oval Office. They didn't expect it and it drove them batshit crazy. Taking crawling out of the woodwork like termites. Or maybe I should say they started flying out of the nest like Yellow Jackets stinging everything in sight. All these people are about is using America as a host and ultimately using its military to push the world around while they steal resources and trespass all over the world, meanwhile using the media to interpret it different to the public than things really are.

To be sure, Trump's America First is a big loser for the globalists. Half the world has its hands deep in the pockets of the American taxpayer. We could all afford second homes if our tax dollars were really used responsibly. No one votes for this. Globalists have infiltrated the government. After you elect them on what they ran on, they switch to globalism instead. That is the ONLY argument against America First is that it puts the globalists SECOND. Spot on. This is the unspoken argument why no one here can argue logically against the Trump agenda, because there is none other than the leftists here arguing against it are either brainwashed useful morons or don't want to speak the truth.

Trump may be a lot of things, but he is no globalist.
 
I prefer a primary but in the aftermath of Joe's decision to fold to I was looking forward to a contested convention until Kamala impressed me by doing what I didn't think her capable of and wrangling the delegates to her side and convincing the rest of the would be's not to run. The party didn't choose her so much as she ran unopposed after she cleared the field. That's the part of this cosplay and fan fiction that you all conveniently leave out. No other democrat wanted to run against her. :dunno:
Lol. There was no field to clear. She was appointed by the party. That’s not how democracy works. Do I need to explain it to you?

She’s awful to boot.

Two disgusting fools offered by the uniparty once again, but you’re cool with it.
 
Have you noticed? In the Media, on the TV, in the Web or here on USMB, every discussion, every heated argument, every thread is against TRUMP! Not only do you never see any JUSTIFICATION for what exactly it is the Harris would do, her POLICIES that would be so much better than Trump's plans, but nothing criticizing Trump plans!

Or anything he actually DID when president. The entire election debate by the Left has been made PERSONAL.

It is all aimed at THE MAN HIMSELF. Trump. You know, that fat, overweight, orange golfer who eats poorly and used to camp around with international models. Every attack is either against HIM or his SUPPORTERS.

You know, those awful, DEPLORABLE, country hicks, hillbillies, backwoods people who have never even had electricity who drive horse-drawn wagons and sleep with their cousins who support Trump. Still living in the 19th century. It is the same bias they cleverly disguised in the 1960s as The Beverly Hillbillies and in the 1970s with Archie Bunker.

In the vernacular of logic, we call that an AD HOMINEM attack--- attacking not the message but the MESSENGER. This is a fallacious argument, it is a personal rather than logical argument first recognized and defined by Aristotle himself. It is a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.

We have seen it all here countless times by people like Mac1958 and numerous others.

This is the Left. This is the substance of the entire case against Trump (and his supporters). That is the basis of the entire "cult" argument, that by minimizing or delegitimizing the people themselves, you avoid the argument itself. Basically, those attacking Trump, their entire case is: "We didn't like him in 2016 and we still don't like him now." Even when they manage to point to some event, it isn't actually about anything that Trump or his supporters themselves really did, but a situation THE LEFT CREATED that merely INVOLVED Trump or his supporters that they created or drew these people into as a result of their embittered dislike of him.

I dare the Left to present an actual argument here that ISN'T about Trump the man or his supporters! But they cannot. They never do. Worse, they use this same crutch, JUST AS WITH JOE BIDEN in 2020, as their ENTIRE CASE FOR SUPPORTING KAMALA HARRIS. I mean, was there ever a single time since 2020 that you ever heard anyone say: "Gee, instead of Joe, I sure wish we had Harris as president instead?"

The entire case AGAINST Trump or FOR Harris, it is all based on a cleverly disguised leftwing fallacy. This is the core of the means of defeating Kamala Harris at the voting polls--- The Left actually have NO REAL ARGUMENT as to why Trump shouldn't be president or that Harris should be, other than THEY JUST DON'T LIKE HIM.



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First the fat blob doesn’t understand how tariffs work.

Maybe he should dance for 30 minutes.
 
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