Where Are The Arguments Against America First?

306>232. Face it bitch.
Why do you support a candidate not elected by party voters, but foisted on you by party elites? A politician no one considered presidential just a few months ago. A politician who never got one vote.

Would you vote for anyone the Ds put up against Trump?
 
Why do you support a candidate not elected by party voters, but foisted on you by party elites? A politician no one considered presidential just a few months ago. A politician who never got one vote.

Would you vote for anyone the Ds put up against Trump?
Because the nominee dropped out, Clown. She'll have the opportunity to be elected by voters this Nov. And yes, even the non MAGAt Republicans would vote for anyone but Trump. He has a ceiling on support.
 
Because the nominee dropped out, Clown. She'll have the opportunity to be elected by voters this Nov. And yes, even the non MAGAt Republicans would vote for anyone but Trump. He has a ceiling on support.
The nominee was forced out. Smart move by the democrats. That said, the dems should have convinced Joe to not run for a second term much earlier so that they could primary candidates. Surely someone better that KH would have won the nomination.
 
The nominee was forced out. Smart move by the democrats. That said, the dems should have convinced Joe to not run for a second term much earlier so that they could primary candidates. Surely someone better that KH would have won the nomination.
He was pressured and he folded. Oh fucking well. I love how you Republicans are more hurt over that than anyone else. :lol:


Soys....
 
He was pressured and he folded. Oh fucking well. I love how you Republicans are more hurt of that than anyone else. :lol:


Soys....
LOL, not hurt, just stating the truth. Dems would have us think that the made the decision on his own to drop out putting country before self.
 
LOL, not hurt, just stating the truth. Dems would have us think that the made the decision on his own to drop out putting country before self.
Except that's not the truth. He wasn't forced out. That's just you being a bitch about Joe caving to pressure. :lol:
 
Because the nominee dropped out, Clown. She'll have the opportunity to be elected by voters this Nov. And yes, even the non MAGAt Republicans would vote for anyone but Trump. He has a ceiling on support.
In other words, the D party elites can do anything they want because TRUMP.

Now that’s DEMOCRACY! Yippee!
 
In other words, the D party elites can do anything they want because TRUMP.

Now that’s DEMOCRACY! Yippee!
That is democracy you fucktard. The Democratic Party is an organization that can decide it's nominee any way it chooses. Trump was also technically nominated by Republican party delegates as well, idiot.
 
Except that's not the truth. He wasn't forced out. That's just you being a bitch about Joe caving to pressure. :lol:
Oh, he wasn't forced out...... he was just caving to pressure! My Bad!
 
Trump is a threat to the left

~S~
Thank God.webp
 
That is democracy you fucktard. The Democratic Party is an organization that can decide it's nominee any way it chooses. Trump was also technically nominated by Republican party delegates as well, idiot.

Your primary election vote for Joe Biden was flushed down the sewer by your own party, cuck.

Unlike you and 14 million other Democrats, my vote was actually counted. :laughing0301:
 
Your primary election vote for Joe Biden was flushed down the sewer by your own party, cuck.

Unlike you and 14 million other Democrats, my vote was actually counted. :laughing0301:
Joe folded and no democrat seems overly saddened by that but you play pretend because you wished it were Joe, Soy boy. :lol:
 
Have you noticed? In the Media, on the TV, in the Web or here on USMB, every discussion, every heated argument, every thread is against TRUMP! Not only do you never see any JUSTIFICATION for what exactly it is the Harris would do, her POLICIES that would be so much better than Trump's plans, but nothing criticizing Trump plans!

Or anything he actually DID when president. The entire election debate by the Left has been made PERSONAL.

It is all aimed at THE MAN HIMSELF. Trump. You know, that fat, overweight, orange golfer who eats poorly and used to camp around with international models. Every attack is either against HIM or his SUPPORTERS.

You know, those awful, DEPLORABLE, country hicks, hillbillies, backwoods people who have never even had electricity who drive horse-drawn wagons and sleep with their cousins who support Trump. Still living in the 19th century. It is the same bias they cleverly disguised in the 1960s as The Beverly Hillbillies and in the 1970s with Archie Bunker.

In the vernacular of logic, we call that an AD HOMINEM attack--- attacking not the message but the MESSENGER. This is a fallacious argument, it is a personal rather than logical argument first recognized and defined by Aristotle himself. It is a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.

We have seen it all here countless times by people like Mac1958 and numerous others.

This is the Left. This is the substance of the entire case against Trump (and his supporters). That is the basis of the entire "cult" argument, that by minimizing or delegitimizing the people themselves, you avoid the argument itself. Basically, those attacking Trump, their entire case is: "We didn't like him in 2016 and we still don't like him now." Even when they manage to point to some event, it isn't actually about anything that Trump or his supporters themselves really did, but a situation THE LEFT CREATED that merely INVOLVED Trump or his supporters that they created or drew these people into as a result of their embittered dislike of him.

I dare the Left to present an actual argument here that ISN'T about Trump the man or his supporters! But they cannot. They never do. Worse, they use this same crutch, JUST AS WITH JOE BIDEN in 2020, as their ENTIRE CASE FOR SUPPORTING KAMALA HARRIS. I mean, was there ever a single time since 2020 that you ever heard anyone say: "Gee, instead of Joe, I sure wish we had Harris as president instead?"

The entire case AGAINST Trump or FOR Harris, it is all based on a cleverly disguised leftwing fallacy. This is the core of the means of defeating Kamala Harris at the voting polls--- The Left actually have NO REAL ARGUMENT as to why Trump shouldn't be president or that Harris should be, other than THEY JUST DON'T LIKE HIM.



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The argument is if the world just all gets along and every country has DEI and we hug terrorists, Russians, the Chinese, North Korea, etc. they will hug us back and we will have all achieved Utopia. World first and everyone can drive around with COEXIST bumper stickers on our EV's.
 
Have you noticed? In the Media, on the TV, in the Web or here on USMB, every discussion, every heated argument, every thread is against TRUMP! Not only do you never see any JUSTIFICATION for what exactly it is the Harris would do, her POLICIES that would be so much better than Trump's plans, but nothing criticizing Trump plans!

Or anything he actually DID when president. The entire election debate by the Left has been made PERSONAL.

It is all aimed at THE MAN HIMSELF. Trump. You know, that fat, overweight, orange golfer who eats poorly and used to camp around with international models. Every attack is either against HIM or his SUPPORTERS.

You know, those awful, DEPLORABLE, country hicks, hillbillies, backwoods people who have never even had electricity who drive horse-drawn wagons and sleep with their cousins who support Trump. Still living in the 19th century. It is the same bias they cleverly disguised in the 1960s as The Beverly Hillbillies and in the 1970s with Archie Bunker.

In the vernacular of logic, we call that an AD HOMINEM attack--- attacking not the message but the MESSENGER. This is a fallacious argument, it is a personal rather than logical argument first recognized and defined by Aristotle himself. It is a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.

We have seen it all here countless times by people like Mac1958 and numerous others.

This is the Left. This is the substance of the entire case against Trump (and his supporters). That is the basis of the entire "cult" argument, that by minimizing or delegitimizing the people themselves, you avoid the argument itself. Basically, those attacking Trump, their entire case is: "We didn't like him in 2016 and we still don't like him now." Even when they manage to point to some event, it isn't actually about anything that Trump or his supporters themselves really did, but a situation THE LEFT CREATED that merely INVOLVED Trump or his supporters that they created or drew these people into as a result of their embittered dislike of him.

I dare the Left to present an actual argument here that ISN'T about Trump the man or his supporters! But they cannot. They never do. Worse, they use this same crutch, JUST AS WITH JOE BIDEN in 2020, as their ENTIRE CASE FOR SUPPORTING KAMALA HARRIS. I mean, was there ever a single time since 2020 that you ever heard anyone say: "Gee, instead of Joe, I sure wish we had Harris as president instead?"

The entire case AGAINST Trump or FOR Harris, it is all based on a cleverly disguised leftwing fallacy. This is the core of the means of defeating Kamala Harris at the voting polls--- The Left actually have NO REAL ARGUMENT as to why Trump shouldn't be president or that Harris should be, other than THEY JUST DON'T LIKE HIM.



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