When the Trump nightmare ends, will we be able to forgive Trump voters?

[martybegan]

You miss the point. Trump is a well thought out con man. So what he did running in the GOP primaries was differentiate himself from the other Republicans. What is it that moderate voters might not like about Republicans?

1. They want to cut social security and medicare. Trump lied and said he wouldn't.
2. Trump said he would raise taxes on the rich. Another lie but I remember it sounded good to me. I just knew he was lying. You guys bought it.
3. He said he would appoint moderate Supreme Court Justices. He lied.
4. He said he would solve illegal immigration but he won't go after illegal employers. Why? He was one until about a year ago.
5. And he said Bush lied us into Iraq. Something no other Republican to this day is willing to admit.

Donald Trump on Fox News denied that he ever accused President George W. Bush of lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. “I didn’t say lie,” Trump said. “I said he may have lied.” That’s false. Trump at least twice — most recently in a debate last month — said Bush “lied.”

Bill O’Reilly, host of Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor,” told Trump (4:06 mark) that he disagreed with Trump on Bush’s motives for invading Iraq in 2003. “I disagree with you vehemently about George Bush, the younger, lying on purpose to get us into a war with Iraq,” O’Reilly said. Trump denied he called Bush a liar.

But Trump did say Bush lied, and on more than one occasion.

In the Feb. 13 debate in South Carolina, debate moderator John Dickerson asked Trump about an October 2008 interview in which Trump said it would have been a “wonderful thing” if Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi tried to impeach Bush because he lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Asked if he still believes that Bush should have been impeached, Trump called the Iraq war a “big fat mistake.” Pressed again for an answer, Trump went on to say, “They lied.”

Trump, Feb. 13: You call it whatever you want. I want to tell you. They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction; there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.

As for his 2008 comments, Trump said of Bush in an interview with CNN, “He lied. He got us into the war with lies.” Wolf Blitzer, host of CNN’s “The Situation Room,” pushed back, saying Bush administration officials argue that the intelligence they received was wrong — not that they lied. “I don’t believe that,” Trump responded.

Yes, Trump Said Bush 'Lied'

It's amazing how much you care about lying when Trump does it, and ignore it when other politicians do it. if you held everyone else to the standard you held Trump to they would all look just as bad.


The guy delivers on what he promises on the issues I care about. Court appointments, regulatory rollback, focus on the economy, tax reductions.

That he pisses off mewly wibble prog twats like you is just a bonus.

Classic Republican comeback. When they get caught lying they say "they all do it".

Yes, Pocahontas and Hillary said she was under sniper fire. How many lies does Trump get to tell just because of these two lies?

You guys seemed to care for how many years that Hillary said she was under sniper fire? That was one fucking lie. How many lies does Trump get to tell before you will get upset?

Trump as of Dec. 10 had told 15,413 untruths during his presidency, The Washington Post’s Fact Checker column reported on Monday.

That’s an average of 14.6 lies for each of his 1,055 days in office.

Trump made 1,999 false claims in 2017 and 5,689 in 2018 — a total of 7,688, the newspaper reported. He’s ramped up the untruths in 2019, however, hitting 7,725 falsehoods with three weeks still to go in the year.

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It's really important to your own self identity that people were "conned' and not that they think differently than you.

Fascinating.

 

[martybegan]

It's amazing how much you care about lying when Trump does it, and ignore it when other politicians do it. if you held everyone else to the standard you held Trump to they would all look just as bad.


The guy delivers on what he promises on the issues I care about. Court appointments, regulatory rollback, focus on the economy, tax reductions.

That he pisses off mewly wibble prog twats like you is just a bonus.

Classic Republican comeback. When they get caught lying they say "they all do it".

Yes, Pocahontas and Hillary said she was under sniper fire. How many lies does Trump get to tell just because of these two lies?

You guys seemed to care for how many years that Hillary said she was under sniper fire? That was one fucking lie. How many lies does Trump get to tell before you will get upset?

Trump as of Dec. 10 had told 15,413 untruths during his presidency, The Washington Post’s Fact Checker column reported on Monday.

That’s an average of 14.6 lies for each of his 1,055 days in office.

Trump made 1,999 false claims in 2017 and 5,689 in 2018 — a total of 7,688, the newspaper reported. He’s ramped up the untruths in 2019, however, hitting 7,725 falsehoods with three weeks still to go in the year.

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

Nobody has had the media scrutinize each word he says in a search for "lies"

You can't compare because this level of scrutiny has never been seen before.

Trust me you were paying attention to Obama's every word.

Trump and his team get to break the law, admit it on National TV and then not get in trouble. Trump will do it again

Think Trump's acting like a dictator now? What if he's reelected after this? - CNNPolitics

Lol, I don't have the resources or the time to do it on the level the MSM is doing on the behalf of SJW's and progressives.

Kind of like how Obama made a Treaty with iran and didn't get Senate approval of it?

LOL, CNN is 2nd to only the NY Daily news in Trump Derangement.

 

[martybegan]

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

Nobody has had the media scrutinize each word he says in a search for "lies"

You can't compare because this level of scrutiny has never been seen before.

Let’s be serious
Any fourth grader with a Google can call Trump on his lies

No president has outright lied as often as Trump and not been held accountable.

Again, no president's every word has been viewed by a one party controlled press to find any "lie" they can.

It's not a one party controlled press. The fact that they don't call out Trump for being the king of all liars should tell you that.

Where the fuck was the liberal media when it came out that Trump, the guy who promised us 3,4 even 5% growth, only gave us 2.3% in 2019. The media aint as liberal as you think. Not after the 1997 Telecommunications act that allowed something like 5 corporations to own something like 95% of our fucking media.

So while they might appear liberal on guns, gays, racism and all the stuff that wins you poor Republicans over, they are fucking 100% corporate America, deep state Republicans my friend.

This used to not be the case. The news part of the company wasn't censored by the corporate part of the media. That separation no longer exists.

You are fucking brainwashed.

LOL, CNN does it every day. MSNBC does it every day.

I find it comical you bitching about corporations when plenty donate to Dems, and follow the whole woke thing.

Are you telling me Journalism as a profession isn't overwhelmingly Progressive and democrat?

That CNN isn't TDS ENOUGH?

LOL

 

[martybegan]

For example have you ever heard the media talk about illegal employers? Never. Ever hear politicians talk about illegal employers? Never. Trump? Never. He even was one himself. We go after them the illegals go home and wages go up. Right now it's illegal employers who are the sanctuaries. Their wages keep them here.

No, go after them and everyone else loses their job, and progressives like you would find a way to get the illegals on the dole.

 

[Mac-7]

I know in my gut, I will not be able to stomach anybody that supported Trump once this monster has left our sights. Every time I see these sorry mf's at work, I turn my head in disgust. Unlike the rednecks that forgave the germans, this country should spit on these mf's and drag their ass's to shame. BECAUSE THEY KNEW BETTER!!View attachment 307609View attachment 307610View attachment 307611

We are a deeply divided nation

I dont like you any more than you like me

so I’m not looking for your forgiveness

you should be asking for mine

The rich use god, gays, guns and racism to divide us. If not Republican economic policies would never fly with you broke asses. They get you socially not economically. Those poor fuckers need the social security they don't want.

Or libs divide us by denying God, supporting sexual perversion, trying to nullify the 2nd Amendment, and falsely accusing whites of racism

 

[rightwinger]

Classic Republican comeback. When they get caught lying they say "they all do it".

Yes, Pocahontas and Hillary said she was under sniper fire. How many lies does Trump get to tell just because of these two lies?

You guys seemed to care for how many years that Hillary said she was under sniper fire? That was one fucking lie. How many lies does Trump get to tell before you will get upset?

Trump as of Dec. 10 had told 15,413 untruths during his presidency, The Washington Post’s Fact Checker column reported on Monday.

That’s an average of 14.6 lies for each of his 1,055 days in office.

Trump made 1,999 false claims in 2017 and 5,689 in 2018 — a total of 7,688, the newspaper reported. He’s ramped up the untruths in 2019, however, hitting 7,725 falsehoods with three weeks still to go in the year.

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

Nobody has had the media scrutinize each word he says in a search for "lies"

You can't compare because this level of scrutiny has never been seen before.

Let’s be serious
Any fourth grader with a Google can call Trump on his lies

No president has outright lied as often as Trump and not been held accountable.

Again, no president's every word has been viewed by a one party controlled press to find any "lie" they can.

Never really had to
Other presidents were trusted in the majority of what they said.
Alternative facts were not the stated objective of a president

 

[rightwinger]

History will characterize Trump voters as......

1. Deplorables
2. Gullible.
3. Willing to vote for anyone who will stack the courts with Conservatives

Stacking the shit out of them...…...

Let’s look at the Trump base

Deplorables: Those who despise anyone who is not white, straight and Christian. Rhetoric against Mexicans, Muslims and gays will get their vote.

Gullible: Those who watched The Apprentice and think it s real. They buy the image that Trump created and think he is a master businessman who can do no wrong

Those who want Conservatives on the court at all costs : They would vote for Adolph Hitler or Jeffery Dahmer if they promised to appoint conservatives

When people like yourself reduce the world to such childishly simplistic dichotomies, it reveals more about you than it does those you target.

What other types of Trump voters are there?

 

[martybegan]

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

Nobody has had the media scrutinize each word he says in a search for "lies"

You can't compare because this level of scrutiny has never been seen before.

Let’s be serious
Any fourth grader with a Google can call Trump on his lies

No president has outright lied as often as Trump and not been held accountable.

Again, no president's every word has been viewed by a one party controlled press to find any "lie" they can.

Never really had to
Other presidents were trusted in the majority of what they said.
Alternative facts were not the stated objective of a president

Lol, progs always accuse opposition presidents of lying, they just never decided to keep count like they are now.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

History will characterize Trump voters as......

1. Deplorables
2. Gullible.
3. Willing to vote for anyone who will stack the courts with Conservatives

Stacking the shit out of them...…...

Let’s look at the Trump base

Deplorables: Those who despise anyone who is not white, straight and Christian. Rhetoric against Mexicans, Muslims and gays will get their vote.

Gullible: Those who watched The Apprentice and think it s real. They buy the image that Trump created and think he is a master businessman who can do no wrong

Those who want Conservatives on the court at all costs : They would vote for Adolph Hitler or Jeffery Dahmer if they promised to appoint conservatives

When people like yourself reduce the world to such childishly simplistic dichotomies, it reveals more about you than it does those you target.

What other types of Trump voters are there?

My parents are hard working, Jewish Americans who felt the Democrat party betrayed them. They voted for Trump. Came here in the 70s with nothing and didn’t speak the language. Have since donated hundreds of thousands to charity and sponsored 10+ Jewish families to come here from Eastern Europe. But to you they are deplorables...

 

[Correll]

Classic Republican comeback. When they get caught lying they say "they all do it".

Yes, Pocahontas and Hillary said she was under sniper fire. How many lies does Trump get to tell just because of these two lies?

You guys seemed to care for how many years that Hillary said she was under sniper fire? That was one fucking lie. How many lies does Trump get to tell before you will get upset?

Trump as of Dec. 10 had told 15,413 untruths during his presidency, The Washington Post’s Fact Checker column reported on Monday.

That’s an average of 14.6 lies for each of his 1,055 days in office.

Trump made 1,999 false claims in 2017 and 5,689 in 2018 — a total of 7,688, the newspaper reported. He’s ramped up the untruths in 2019, however, hitting 7,725 falsehoods with three weeks still to go in the year.

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It is not his fault that he can't unite, not with the insane hysteria that the libs have been ginning up and maintaining.

That's bs and you want to know why? Because everything he does is purposely shit that he knows will piss off the left. He's a divider not a uniter and he didn't have to be this way. He would have easily won re election if he chose to be a moderate president.

For one example, his response to the death at Chalottesville, was perfect, and the media, just completely lied and told the people a lie that was the exact OPPOSITE of what Trump said.


If everything he did was shit, they would have to make up shit.

 

[sealybobo]

It's amazing how much you care about lying when Trump does it, and ignore it when other politicians do it. if you held everyone else to the standard you held Trump to they would all look just as bad.


The guy delivers on what he promises on the issues I care about. Court appointments, regulatory rollback, focus on the economy, tax reductions.

That he pisses off mewly wibble prog twats like you is just a bonus.

Classic Republican comeback. When they get caught lying they say "they all do it".

Yes, Pocahontas and Hillary said she was under sniper fire. How many lies does Trump get to tell just because of these two lies?

You guys seemed to care for how many years that Hillary said she was under sniper fire? That was one fucking lie. How many lies does Trump get to tell before you will get upset?

Trump as of Dec. 10 had told 15,413 untruths during his presidency, The Washington Post’s Fact Checker column reported on Monday.

That’s an average of 14.6 lies for each of his 1,055 days in office.

Trump made 1,999 false claims in 2017 and 5,689 in 2018 — a total of 7,688, the newspaper reported. He’s ramped up the untruths in 2019, however, hitting 7,725 falsehoods with three weeks still to go in the year.

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It's really important to your own self identity that people were "conned' and not that they think differently than you.

Fascinating.

They don't think differently than I do. I get what they were thinking.

I think you are stretching for something here. Or is this a tactic. Talk about my self identity and the fact that Trump voters did get conned.

Or if they like this then they liked George Bush. I remember those idiots. Not much different today than they were back then. Just a bit more racist and proud about it now. I survived 8 years of Bush I'll be ok if Trump wins again in November. Will you? How's your retirement savings going? I just opened up an envelope in the car I didn't recognize the company. I realized it was one of my investments from a couple decades ago I totally forgot about it. $50K. Imagine forgetting about a $50K investment. LOL

 

[sealybobo]

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It is not his fault that he can't unite, not with the insane hysteria that the libs have been ginning up and maintaining.

That's bs and you want to know why? Because everything he does is purposely shit that he knows will piss off the left. He's a divider not a uniter and he didn't have to be this way. He would have easily won re election if he chose to be a moderate president.

For one example, his response to the death at Chalottesville, was perfect, and the media, just completely lied and told the people a lie that was the exact OPPOSITE of what Trump said.


If everything he did was shit, they would have to make up shit.

Glad he stuck up for the klan

 

[martybegan]

Classic Republican comeback. When they get caught lying they say "they all do it".

Yes, Pocahontas and Hillary said she was under sniper fire. How many lies does Trump get to tell just because of these two lies?

You guys seemed to care for how many years that Hillary said she was under sniper fire? That was one fucking lie. How many lies does Trump get to tell before you will get upset?

Trump as of Dec. 10 had told 15,413 untruths during his presidency, The Washington Post’s Fact Checker column reported on Monday.

That’s an average of 14.6 lies for each of his 1,055 days in office.

Trump made 1,999 false claims in 2017 and 5,689 in 2018 — a total of 7,688, the newspaper reported. He’s ramped up the untruths in 2019, however, hitting 7,725 falsehoods with three weeks still to go in the year.

Reality, they all lie, spin and ignore obvious issues with their positions. Trump is just a blowhard about it and lacks the filter they do.

Lol, WaPo being foisted by you as an unbiased source. Have they done the same level of effort with Obama or any Democrat in general?

And your side has also stretched what a "lie" is. A lie is knowing something is one thing, and saying another. calling dog a cat. saying a blue thing is red. What you call lies are mostly opinions that you don't agree with.

A good example of a lie is saying a man who removes their penis and balls and has a fake vagina made to replace it is actually a woman.

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It's really important to your own self identity that people were "conned' and not that they think differently than you.

Fascinating.

They don't think differently than I do. I get what they were thinking.

I think you are stretching for something here. Or is this a tactic. Talk about my self identity and the fact that Trump voters did get conned.

Or if they like this then they liked George Bush. I remember those idiots. Not much different today than they were back then. Just a bit more racist and proud about it now. I survived 8 years of Bush I'll be ok if Trump wins again in November. Will you? How's your retirement savings going? I just opened up an envelope in the car I didn't recognize the company. I realized it was one of my investments from a couple decades ago I totally forgot about it. $50K. Imagine forgetting about a $50K investment. LOL

You don't get what they are thinking, you would rather believe they are idiots, gullible, or both.

My 401k is just fine, 44 years old and it's at over $370k right now.

 

[martybegan]

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It is not his fault that he can't unite, not with the insane hysteria that the libs have been ginning up and maintaining.

That's bs and you want to know why? Because everything he does is purposely shit that he knows will piss off the left. He's a divider not a uniter and he didn't have to be this way. He would have easily won re election if he chose to be a moderate president.

For one example, his response to the death at Chalottesville, was perfect, and the media, just completely lied and told the people a lie that was the exact OPPOSITE of what Trump said.


If everything he did was shit, they would have to make up shit.

Glad he stuck up for the klan

Please provide a quote where he directly "stuck up for the klan"

 

[Correll]

Once again, nobody lies with the audacity of Trump in either party.
Not even close

So “they all do it “ is not an excuse

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It is not his fault that he can't unite, not with the insane hysteria that the libs have been ginning up and maintaining.

That's bs and you want to know why? Because everything he does is purposely shit that he knows will piss off the left. He's a divider not a uniter and he didn't have to be this way. He would have easily won re election if he chose to be a moderate president.

For one example, his response to the death at Chalottesville, was perfect, and the media, just completely lied and told the people a lie that was the exact OPPOSITE of what Trump said.


If everything he did was shit, they would have to make up shit.

Glad he stuck up for the klan

He explicitly stated that he was not defending the klan and explicitly stated that he was condemning them.


That you felt a need to lie about that, refutes your claim that everything he does is "shit, designed to divide us".


IF your position was true, you would not need to lie about the ONE incident in Charlottesville, you could make your case with all the other cases.


But in the real world, your best example, is a lie.



Because your position is just wrong.



My position remains. Trump is not responsible for being unable to unify, because of the hysteria ginned up by the Left.

 

[sealybobo]

History will characterize Trump voters as......

1. Deplorables
2. Gullible.
3. Willing to vote for anyone who will stack the courts with Conservatives

Stacking the shit out of them...…...

Let’s look at the Trump base

Deplorables: Those who despise anyone who is not white, straight and Christian. Rhetoric against Mexicans, Muslims and gays will get their vote.

Gullible: Those who watched The Apprentice and think it s real. They buy the image that Trump created and think he is a master businessman who can do no wrong

Those who want Conservatives on the court at all costs : They would vote for Adolph Hitler or Jeffery Dahmer if they promised to appoint conservatives

When people like yourself reduce the world to such childishly simplistic dichotomies, it reveals more about you than it does those you target.

What other types of Trump voters are there?

If you are voting for Trump you probably lean right. You probably were a USMB con who defended Bush. I remember those fuckers. They haven't changed. They just have adopted a few of our positions since we abandoned them.

NAFTA sucked. That was ours first.
Illegals are ruining America said the unions vs. Jobs Americans Won't Do Bush/McCain/Romney
Tariff companies who ship jobs overseas

These were ours before Trump stole them. He got Republicans to change their minds about these things. Or, I should say, he appealed to the racist half of the party over the corporate side. The corporate side was going to vote for him over Hillary no matter what. Trump was smart to appeal to the conspiracy theorists and racists in America. He got them to turnout wearing those hats. And Trump said he could kill someone and not lose one vote.

So we need a big turn out in November to out this fucker. Seems Trump supporters are as loyal as nazi's.

 

[Correll]

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It is not his fault that he can't unite, not with the insane hysteria that the libs have been ginning up and maintaining.

That's bs and you want to know why? Because everything he does is purposely shit that he knows will piss off the left. He's a divider not a uniter and he didn't have to be this way. He would have easily won re election if he chose to be a moderate president.

For one example, his response to the death at Chalottesville, was perfect, and the media, just completely lied and told the people a lie that was the exact OPPOSITE of what Trump said.


If everything he did was shit, they would have to make up shit.

Glad he stuck up for the klan

Please provide a quote where he directly "stuck up for the klan"

They all know, it is a lie.


Yet, they can't admit it, because they know that their whole world view, is based on lies. They admit one, they fear that it will come tumbling down.

 

[sealybobo]

What these guys don't realize is all the things Trump said when he was campaigning that made him seem different from the other Republicans, I loved all that shit. He was going to unite. He was not pro life. He wanted to help labor and solve illegal immigration. He was going to tax billionaires. Fix/improve healthcare. He was the only republican who would admit there were no WMD's.

I know how he conned a lot of people who don't like Republicans into voting for him. He's a con artist. We got conned.

And he gets to lie with impunity. Scary how dumb America is.

And I'll survive another 4 years of Trump. Cuts to my social security and medicare and raising the retirement age. I'll survive all that. But that's another huge step backward for the middle class now isn't it?

It is not his fault that he can't unite, not with the insane hysteria that the libs have been ginning up and maintaining.

That's bs and you want to know why? Because everything he does is purposely shit that he knows will piss off the left. He's a divider not a uniter and he didn't have to be this way. He would have easily won re election if he chose to be a moderate president.

For one example, his response to the death at Chalottesville, was perfect, and the media, just completely lied and told the people a lie that was the exact OPPOSITE of what Trump said.


If everything he did was shit, they would have to make up shit.

Glad he stuck up for the klan

Please provide a quote where he directly "stuck up for the klan"

He could have been overt about it and you'd still defend him.

“People were there protesting the taking down of the monument of Robert E. Lee — everybody knows that,” Trump said of the rally in Charlottesville, which was organized by white supremacists.

“some very fine people on both sides” of the incident.

So he sees white supremists as very fine people. Got it.

 

[WillowTree]

I know in my gut, I will not be able to stomach anybody that supported Trump once this monster has left our sights. Every time I see these sorry mf's at work, I turn my head in disgust. Unlike the rednecks that forgave the germans, this country should spit on these mf's and drag their ass's to shame. BECAUSE THEY KNEW BETTER!!View attachment 307609View attachment 307610View attachment 307611

which of Trump’s policies do you object to and why? Can you articulate thru yer hate?

 

[martybegan]

It is not his fault that he can't unite, not with the insane hysteria that the libs have been ginning up and maintaining.

That's bs and you want to know why? Because everything he does is purposely shit that he knows will piss off the left. He's a divider not a uniter and he didn't have to be this way. He would have easily won re election if he chose to be a moderate president.

For one example, his response to the death at Chalottesville, was perfect, and the media, just completely lied and told the people a lie that was the exact OPPOSITE of what Trump said.


If everything he did was shit, they would have to make up shit.

Glad he stuck up for the klan

Please provide a quote where he directly "stuck up for the klan"

He could have been overt about it and you'd still defend him.

“People were there protesting the taking down of the monument of Robert E. Lee — everybody knows that,” Trump said of the rally in Charlottesville, which was organized by white supremacists.

“some very fine people on both sides” of the incident.

So he sees white supremists as very fine people. Got it.

He was talking about people in general on both sides of the argument about the Statue. And what incident?

Are you saying everyone who is against the Statue being removed is a Klan member.