When is an embryo/fetus a human life?

[whutTHEYsay]

So, why doesn't she make the decision before she gets pregnant with an unwanted child?

Why does it become your duty or business to intervene on behalf of the reproductive function taking place within another persons body in private?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Abortion is going to be legal and theres nothing anyone can do to stop it

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Not in my state.




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[whutTHEYsay]

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Not in my state.




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Is it one of these?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Heartbeat. If a heart stopping means death, a heart beginning to beat signifies life. For any species.

It’s at conception when the expectant mother chooses to give birth. Or it is not the government or anybody else’s business when she decides not to give birth and chooses to terminate her pregnancy.

A heartbeat during gestation has nothing to do with it.

 

[Chuz Life]

Why does it become your duty or business to intervene on behalf of the reproductive function taking place within another persons body in private?


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1. If a woman is pregnant, reproduction has already taken place.

2. Children have a right to the equal protection of our laws.

3. Our current laws are far from infallible. Indeed, they are provably flawed.

4. We all have a right to speak and to petition our government for a redress of our grievances.

Facts.

 

[Chuz Life]

Abortion is going to be legal and theres nothing anyone can do to stop it

Challenge accepted.

Long time ago.

Even long before Roe was finally overturned.

 

[Highlight]

You obviously have no soul

There are over 8 billion of them on this planet. How many are too many for you.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

You obviously have no soul

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Many, many people like that these days.


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[multivita-man]

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Many, many people like that these days.


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OMG! IT'S A BABY!!!!!

 

[toobfreak]

Why does it become your duty or business to intervene on behalf of the reproductive function taking place within another persons body in private?

Same reason why it became your duty and business to intervene on behalf of the private medical care of millions of other people whom you never even met nor know anything about to get them extricated from society, fired from their jobs and shunned from society like lepers just for not trusting an experimental, untested vaccine whose side-effects and effectiveness you didn't know the first thing about?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Why does it become your duty or business to intervene on behalf of the reproductive function taking place within another persons body in private?


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When a human life is taken

 

[irosie91]

When a human life is taken

I got interesting news-----A SPERMATOZOAN is human and LIVING----as is an OVUM. ----neither can
be made citizens

 

[toobfreak]

2. Children have a right to the equal protection of our laws.

Last I checked, I see no provision within the Constitution and Bill of Rights a single word implying that our civil rights as people and citizens only begin at birth or not at all to the yet born.

4. We all have a right to speak and to petition our government for a redress of our grievances.

Except of course, when it is a group of conservatives protesting the hasty conclusion of a presidential election with 10,000 glaring problems still hanging in the air which the courts were trying to push through unanswered post haste.

 

[Chuz Life]

I got interesting news-----A SPERMATOZOAN is human and LIVING----as is an OVUM. ----neither can
be made citizens

Well, they could be made "citizens" if the people through their government wanted them to be citizens.

Legally, corporations are recognized as "legal persons" even though corporations are neither "human" nor "alive."

But that's besides the point that neither a human sperm CELL or an Oocyte CELL is a human being in the sense that any other human being (human ORGANISM) IS.

The current legal definition for what a "natural person" is "a human being."

Un-united sperm CELLS and Egg CELLS are not human "organisms." They are not "human organisms" and they are not "human beings." They are only the reproductive "cells" of a human being.

Un-united human Sperm and egg cells have only the potential to unite and form (become) human organisms (beings / natural persons.)

Conception (NOT PARTURITION) is when that "potential to begin a new human being's life is finally realized.

At CONCEPTION (not parturition) is when the short "life" of a sperm and egg cell are ended, and the life of the new human organism they merged to create is begun.

Facts.

Biological Facts.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It’s at conception when the expectant mother chooses to give birth. Or it is not the government or anybody else’s business when she decides not to give birth and chooses to terminate her pregnancy.

A heartbeat during gestation has nothing to do with it. View attachment 1141341

I was hoping for an intelligent response. Very disappointing.

 

[Leo123]

I got interesting news-----A SPERMATOZOAN is human and LIVING----as is an OVUM. ----neither can
be made citizens

They can create a 'citizen' if they unite which is their life-purpose.

 

[Chuz Life]

They can create a 'citizen' if they unite which is their life-purpose.

Less detailed but pretty fair summary of what I tried to say - too.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Last I checked, I see no provision within the Constitution and Bill of Rights a single word implying that our civil rights as people and citizens only begin at birth or not at all to the yet born.

Even if the most intellectually basic animal can recognize their own species in the womb, then it stands to reason we do too. The problem is that with homo sapiens, we are so intelligent that we can say or do things that manipulate the thoughts or actions of others. Namely, this idea that what's in the womb of a woman is not human, even though it shares human DNA.

Liberals always claim they're pro-science, but when it comes to abortion and gender, they're about as clueless as a three-year-old with a book of matches.

 

[toobfreak]

The problem is that with homo sapiens, we are so intelligent that we can say or do things that manipulate the thoughts or actions of others.

I think what is more likely at fault here is that lack of education and mental illness run rampant through our society.

I think it may have something to do with the micro-plastics.

A large segment of our society has devolved into becoming self-destructive of its own survival.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I think what is more likely at fault here is that lack of education and mental illness run rampant through our society.

I think it may have something to do with the micro-plastics.

A large segment of our society has devolved into becoming self-destructive of its own survival.

I'd say it has more to do with mismanaged intelligence. Like you said, it's also educational.

Liberals make the emotional argument. But emotions tell you what you believe, not what is true.