When Is A Religion Not a 'Religion'?

[PoliticalChic]

In the modern era, the practice of beheading first came to Western attention when Muhammad Ahmad of the Sudan declared himself Mahdi in 1880 and waged a jihad against Ottoman Egyptian and British forces. Ahmad's followers routinely beheaded their opponents, most famously British Gen. Charles Gordon.

The first execution by guillotine was performed on 25 April 1792 in France. What it replaced was truly horrendous.

There is a difference between religion and culture. Most Muslims are not Arabs and don't share their culture. Plenty of what we view today as barbaric was done by Muslims in the name of Allah but I'd guess that every religion has its share of barbarism.

Re: "every religion has its share of barbarism."

You did mean to use the past tense "HAD" did you not ?

I honestly didn't think much about it when I wrote it. Thinking a bit more I'd have to say no, there is still barbarism being done in the name of every religion. The KKK burns crosses, Israelis practice collective punishment, and ISIS needs no examples.

The KKK is not a religion ... it was a militant branch of the Democratic Party

When the Democratic party was the southern majority and the party of slavery. Now, the GOP is the majority party in the south. The current home of the confederate conservatives.

It can't be denied.

Stop lying....if you can.

The Democrats have always......always.....been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.

1. Governor Clinton invited Orval Faubus to his inauguration and they exchanged an almost South American abrazo, embrace, http://www.booknotes.org/Watch/72551-1/Paul+Greenberg.aspx
   1. Clinton’s mentor was J. William Fulbright, a vehement foe of integration who had voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
   2. Governor Orval Faubus, progressive New Deal Democrat, blocked the schoolhouse door to the Little Rock Central High School with the state’s National Guard rather than allow nine black students to attend.
2. Language is important, so in any discussion of who the segregationists were, liberals switch the word “Democrats” to “southerners.” Remember, the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was supported by all the Republicans in the Senate, but only 29 of 47 Democrats…and a number of the ‘segregationist’ Democrats were northern Dems (Oregon, Washington, Montana, and Wyoming). Not southerners: Democrats.
   1. There were plenty of southern integrationists. They were Republicans.
3. 1966- pro-integrationist Republican Winthrop Rockefeller won Arkansas, replacing Clinton-pal Orval Faubus.
4. 1966 Republican Bo Calloway ran against Democrat Lester Maddox, who “gained national attention for refusing to serve blacks in his popular cafeteria near the Georgia Tech campus. Newsmen tipped off about the confrontation reported how restaurant patrons and employees wielded ax handles while Mr. Maddox waved a pistol. …” Lester Maddox Dies at 87; Segregationist Ex-Governor Leaves Complicated Legacy | HighBeam Business: Arrive Prepared
   1. Maddox was endorsed by Democrat Jimmy Carter in the above governor’s race. When the race was too close to call, the Democrat state legislature gave it to Maddox.
   2. Calloway appealed to the Supreme Court….but the court upheld the legislature’s decision.
   3. On that very Supreme Court was former KKK member Justice Hugo Black.
   4. Democrat Hugo Black was Democrat FDR’s first appointee, in 1937. This KKK Senator from Alabama wrote the majority decision on Korematsu v. US; in 1967, he said ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap.” Engage: Conversations in Philosophy: "They all look alike to a person not a Jap"*: The Legacy of Korematsu at OSU
   5. And, Hugo Black's anti-Catholic bias, which showed up in his actions on the Supreme Court:

"... Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.”... Separation was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed..."

Egnorance: Hugo Black and the real history of "the wall of separation between church and state"

1. Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425

g. "The night riders move through the darkness, white against the black road....they go about their business, their horsed draped, guns and bullwhips banging dully against saddles.

....this is the South Carolina of the 1870s, not of the turn of a new millennium, and the night riders are the terror of these times. They roam upcountry, visiting their version of justice on poor blacks and the Republicans that support them, refusing to bow to the requirements of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments."

From the novel "The White Road," by John Connolly

1. 1966- Republican Spiro Agnew ran against Democrat segregationists George Mahoney for governor of Maryland. Agnew enacted some of the first laws in the nation against race discrimination in public housing. “Agnew signed the state's first open-housing laws and succeeded in getting the repeal of an anti-miscegenation law.” Spiro Agnew - Wikipedia

6. 1957- Democrat Sam Ervin, another liberal luminary, instrumental in the destruction of anti-communist Republicans Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon, told his fellow segregationists, and who led the Watergate investigation, said of the 1957 civil rights bill: “We’ve got to give the goddamned ******* something. We’re not gonna be able to get out of here until we’ve got some kind of ****** bill.’ Robert Caro, “Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson,” xv.

 

[deanrd]

There are certain characteristics that we have come to find in religion....and some that immediately exclude a worldview from that category......


1. “We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” Cult of Death

a. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen

b. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.”
http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp





2. "The Islamic practice of beheading enemies and sinners dates back to the Prophet Muhammad himself. According to Arab historian Ibn Ishaq (d. 768 C.E.), Muhammad ordered the beheadings of at least 600 Jewish Banu Qurayza tribesmen in Medina on suspicion of plotting against him.

Beheading also finds support in the Koran. In one passage, Allah says "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off" (8:12). In another, Muslims are exhorted to "confront the disbelievers, strike at their necks" (47:4).

In the modern era, the practice of beheading first came to Western attention when Muhammad Ahmad of the Sudan declared himself Mahdi in 1880 and waged a jihad against Ottoman Egyptian and British forces. Ahmad's followers routinely beheaded their opponents, most famously British Gen. Charles Gordon.

The modern video beheading phenomenon began in 2002 when 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) decapitated Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. KSM was captured shortly afterwards, but al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi took the idea and ran with it in a series of grisly videos showing the beheading of Western civilian contractors and others in Iraq. Zarqawi followed the parameters of the genre established by KSM: prayers, insults, recitation from the Koran, beheading, posing with the head. As a final insult, the ceremony ends when the severed head is set upon the back of the dismembered corpse.

Beheading videos disappeared for a while but resumed in 2014 with the rise of ISIS. The prime actor in this third wave of video terrorism was English-speaking ISIS operative Mohammed Emwazi, dubbed "Jihadi John" by the British press....
Kathy Griffin Needs to Check Her Infidel Privilege [Satire]




...certain characteristics that immediately exclude a worldview from the category of 'religion'......

Hmmm, the love of death:

American pastors calling for the murder of millions of Americans:

Pastor Roger Jimenez
Pastor Steven Anderson
Pastor Kevin Swanson
Pastor Jesse Price
Pastor Charles L. Worley
Pastor Bert Farias
Pastor Jeffrey S. Smith
Pastor Curtis Napp
Pastor James David Manning

We can watch their sermons on Youtube. They preach murder to their "flocks" every Sunday.



I'm against violence, but I believe they should be executed by the government.



Putting them to death limits conversions. The government should kill them.

Do the majority of Republicans believe in mass murder? Probably. As far as I know, there aren't any statistics saying they don't.

I guess locking someone up for life for being gay is more humane than killing them. At least a little bit more humane.
Meet the American Pastor Behind Uganda’s Anti-Gay Crackdown

Is it? Spending the rest of your life in an Ugandan prison for being gay is more humane?

Republicans are monsters. OK, maybe not all. I'm sure there's a few who aren't. A very few.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What a fabrication.....not a part of Judaism nor Christianity.
A note for you:
Ephesians 4:25 So stop telling lies. Let us tell our neighbors the truth

You should heed your own note!!!
But you couldn't be a CON$ervoFascist if you weren't a hypocrite!

Nu 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.

Do you own a calendar?

There is only only one (alleged) religion, called Islam, that has carried 7th century barbarism into the modern world.


Wise up, you dope.

And Judeo-Christianity brought BCE barbarism into the modern world until counter-acted by Enlightenism.

Egads! You're a dunce!!!

Write about something you understand!!!!


I don't have the time nor the interest to teach you everything you never learned....but here's the central nugget:

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror


Communism, National Socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....all have a the central doctrine:
"....an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature...." Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism"


There is no morality. No care or concern for other, or for life. Nor is any required. This is the gift of the Enlightenment, with its view to replacing religion with science, with reason.


I'd be more than happy to provide a short list of books you should....should....read.

What you posted doesn't change what I said one iota.

Here are some examples of christian barbarism:

The Crusades
The Inquisition
The St. Bartholomew Day Massacre
The Salem Witch trials
The Bonfire of the Vanities
Any and all pograms
The 30 Years War

And here is the proof of what I wrote:

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......111,850,000
#14 Liberal Demagoguery, Hate and Violence – A Compendium


From the Left....you know....your side.

 

[godsandmen]

When is a religion not a religion? Oh, I don't know, maybe when it's a "relationship". I can't count the number of times Christians have tried to distance themselves from a "religion". But whenever they talk about Islam, all of a sudden Christianity becomes a religion again!

 

[Weatherman2020]

There are certain characteristics that we have come to find in religion....and some that immediately exclude a worldview from that category......


1. “We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” Cult of Death

a. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen

b. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.”
http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp





2. "The Islamic practice of beheading enemies and sinners dates back to the Prophet Muhammad himself. According to Arab historian Ibn Ishaq (d. 768 C.E.), Muhammad ordered the beheadings of at least 600 Jewish Banu Qurayza tribesmen in Medina on suspicion of plotting against him.

Beheading also finds support in the Koran. In one passage, Allah says "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off" (8:12). In another, Muslims are exhorted to "confront the disbelievers, strike at their necks" (47:4).

In the modern era, the practice of beheading first came to Western attention when Muhammad Ahmad of the Sudan declared himself Mahdi in 1880 and waged a jihad against Ottoman Egyptian and British forces. Ahmad's followers routinely beheaded their opponents, most famously British Gen. Charles Gordon.

The modern video beheading phenomenon began in 2002 when 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) decapitated Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. KSM was captured shortly afterwards, but al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi took the idea and ran with it in a series of grisly videos showing the beheading of Western civilian contractors and others in Iraq. Zarqawi followed the parameters of the genre established by KSM: prayers, insults, recitation from the Koran, beheading, posing with the head. As a final insult, the ceremony ends when the severed head is set upon the back of the dismembered corpse.

Beheading videos disappeared for a while but resumed in 2014 with the rise of ISIS. The prime actor in this third wave of video terrorism was English-speaking ISIS operative Mohammed Emwazi, dubbed "Jihadi John" by the British press....
Kathy Griffin Needs to Check Her Infidel Privilege [Satire]




...certain characteristics that immediately exclude a worldview from the category of 'religion'......

BUT THE CRUSADES!!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

When is a religion not a religion? Oh, I don't know, maybe when it's a "relationship". I can't count the number of times Christians have tried to distance themselves from a "religion". But whenever they talk about Islam, all of a sudden Christianity becomes a religion again!

Not really much of a post...

Unlike yours, the OP was quite specific:

1. “We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” Cult of Death

a. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen

b. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.”
http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp





2. "The Islamic practice of beheading enemies and sinners dates back to the Prophet Muhammad himself. According to Arab historian Ibn Ishaq (d. 768 C.E.), Muhammad ordered the beheadings of at least 600 Jewish Banu Qurayza tribesmen in Medina on suspicion of plotting against him.

Beheading also finds support in the Koran. In one passage, Allah says "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off" (8:12). In another, Muslims are exhorted to "confront the disbelievers, strike at their necks" (47:4).

In the modern era, the practice of beheading first came to Western attention when Muhammad Ahmad of the Sudan declared himself Mahdi in 1880 and waged a jihad against Ottoman Egyptian and British forces. Ahmad's followers routinely beheaded their opponents, most famously British Gen. Charles Gordon.

The modern video beheading phenomenon began in 2002 when 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) decapitated Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. KSM was captured shortly afterwards, but al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi took the idea and ran with it in a series of grisly videos showing the beheading of Western civilian contractors and others in Iraq. Zarqawi followed the parameters of the genre established by KSM: prayers, insults, recitation from the Koran, beheading, posing with the head. As a final insult, the ceremony ends when the severed head is set upon the back of the dismembered corpse.

Beheading videos disappeared for a while but resumed in 2014 with the rise of ISIS. The prime actor in this third wave of video terrorism was English-speaking ISIS operative Mohammed Emwazi, dubbed "Jihadi John" by the British press....
Kathy Griffin Needs to Check Her Infidel Privilege [Satire]




...certain characteristics that immediately exclude a worldview from the category of 'religion'......

 

[PoliticalChic]

One must marvel at how indelible the indoctrination of the lock-step Liberals is....
Not facts nor knowledge nor experience can move it toward reality.

Truly an 'eyes wide shut' way of viewing the world.



Clearly, Sharia and the Constitution are incompatible....yet, they go on as apologists for barbarity.




And this affront to civilization:

"Astonishing" two in three British Muslims would NOT give police terror tip-offs
TWO thirds of British Muslims would not inform the police if they thought that somebody close to them had become involved with terrorist sympathisers, according to a poll."
Two thirds of British Muslims would not give police terror tip-offs | UK | News | Express.co.uk


By my way of figuring, this means that 2/3 of those allowed in are contributors to terrorism

 

[Likkmee]

If there's anyone standing there in beanies it isn't a religious gathering. Its a business meeting

 

[edthecynic]

The Islamic practice of beheading enemies and sinners dates back to the Prophet Muhammad himself.

Beheading also finds support in the Koran.

Actually, as you well know, beheadings originated with Moses as written in YOUR bible well BEFORE Islam!!!!!

Nu 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.

Do you own a calendar?

There is only only one (alleged) religion, called Islam, that has carried 7th century barbarism into the modern world.

Wise up, you dope.

Notice how the right always moves the goalposts when they are caught lying their Christian asses off!!
Your lying OP said nothing about the modern world, only that the Mosaic practice of beheading dates back to Muhammad.

I said it three times.

And....I reminded you that you are a dope at lest twice.

Once more?
There is only only one (alleged) religion, called Islam, that has carried 7th century barbarism into the modern world.
Exactly the premise of this thread.
QED.

No matter how many times you repeat your lie, it is still a lie and you are still a liar.

 

[edthecynic]

Bitch - It's now "Politically Incorrect" to use the term GLOBAL WARMING the correct newspeak is climate change ... hows that ... better ?

Still a lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Islamic practice of beheading enemies and sinners dates back to the Prophet Muhammad himself.

Beheading also finds support in the Koran.

Actually, as you well know, beheadings originated with Moses as written in YOUR bible well BEFORE Islam!!!!!

Nu 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.

Do you own a calendar?

There is only only one (alleged) religion, called Islam, that has carried 7th century barbarism into the modern world.

Wise up, you dope.

Notice how the right always moves the goalposts when they are caught lying their Christian asses off!!
Your lying OP said nothing about the modern world, only that the Mosaic practice of beheading dates back to Muhammad.

I said it three times.

And....I reminded you that you are a dope at lest twice.

Once more?
There is only only one (alleged) religion, called Islam, that has carried 7th century barbarism into the modern world.
Exactly the premise of this thread.
QED.

No matter how many times you repeat your lie, it is still a lie and you are still a liar.

I never lie.



Now...remember:
You, plastic, me fantastic.

 

[edthecynic]

I never lie.

THAT is a lie!

 

[Taz]

Children? They are viable on their own?

They would be, if you Leftists didn't murder them.

You agree with that...don't you?


How about this....do you agree with it?
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Really:
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The wife of a conservative Michigan lawmaker says in a Facebook posting that she had an abortion while in high school and went public with it after someone approached her husband vowing to disclose the information.

In a public Facebook post last Friday, Stephanie Chatfield, the wife of GOP state Rep. Lee Chatfield from Levering Township wrote, “You informed my husband that you had heard a rumor, and that you would keep digging. You promised that you would ensure that this story went public. In fact, your desire to see this story go public emboldened me to do something that I should have done years ago.

“After speaking it over with my husband, I felt that telling my story was best,” she continued. “And no matter the intentions of anybody wishing to see this story go public, this I am certain of: God meant it for good and will glorify Himself through this.”

Conservative Michigan lawmaker's wife reveals teen abortion

and this wacko think God meant it for good. Its ok when the conservatives do it?

Was she thinking of converting to Islam?
Did you ask her?

In any case.....
The plural of anecdote is not 'data.'


Try this:
Let's settle the 'murder' question first.

What possible argument could you pro-abortionists have for murdering a separate and unique human being that would not apply to the same at age 8 months, suckling at its mother's breast?



The silence is deafening....

The law makes a distinction between a live baby and a fetus.

Anything else?

So....you agreed with the Supreme Court Dred Scott decision, too?

Not too strong in the thinking department, are you.


Anything else?

Don't know who that is. Please try again.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They would be, if you Leftists didn't murder them.

You agree with that...don't you?


How about this....do you agree with it?
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Really:
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The wife of a conservative Michigan lawmaker says in a Facebook posting that she had an abortion while in high school and went public with it after someone approached her husband vowing to disclose the information.

In a public Facebook post last Friday, Stephanie Chatfield, the wife of GOP state Rep. Lee Chatfield from Levering Township wrote, “You informed my husband that you had heard a rumor, and that you would keep digging. You promised that you would ensure that this story went public. In fact, your desire to see this story go public emboldened me to do something that I should have done years ago.

“After speaking it over with my husband, I felt that telling my story was best,” she continued. “And no matter the intentions of anybody wishing to see this story go public, this I am certain of: God meant it for good and will glorify Himself through this.”

Conservative Michigan lawmaker's wife reveals teen abortion

and this wacko think God meant it for good. Its ok when the conservatives do it?

Was she thinking of converting to Islam?
Did you ask her?

In any case.....
The plural of anecdote is not 'data.'


Try this:
Let's settle the 'murder' question first.

What possible argument could you pro-abortionists have for murdering a separate and unique human being that would not apply to the same at age 8 months, suckling at its mother's breast?



The silence is deafening....

The law makes a distinction between a live baby and a fetus.

Anything else?

So....you agreed with the Supreme Court Dred Scott decision, too?

Not too strong in the thinking department, are you.


Anything else?

Don't know who that is. Please try again.

Hard to imagine that depth of ignorance.

Please drop back when you graduate elementary school, or when the thread gets to monster trucks and favorite 24-Hour All Cartoon Networks.

 

[Taz]

Really:
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The wife of a conservative Michigan lawmaker says in a Facebook posting that she had an abortion while in high school and went public with it after someone approached her husband vowing to disclose the information.

In a public Facebook post last Friday, Stephanie Chatfield, the wife of GOP state Rep. Lee Chatfield from Levering Township wrote, “You informed my husband that you had heard a rumor, and that you would keep digging. You promised that you would ensure that this story went public. In fact, your desire to see this story go public emboldened me to do something that I should have done years ago.

“After speaking it over with my husband, I felt that telling my story was best,” she continued. “And no matter the intentions of anybody wishing to see this story go public, this I am certain of: God meant it for good and will glorify Himself through this.”

Conservative Michigan lawmaker's wife reveals teen abortion

and this wacko think God meant it for good. Its ok when the conservatives do it?

Was she thinking of converting to Islam?
Did you ask her?

In any case.....
The plural of anecdote is not 'data.'


Try this:
Let's settle the 'murder' question first.

What possible argument could you pro-abortionists have for murdering a separate and unique human being that would not apply to the same at age 8 months, suckling at its mother's breast?



The silence is deafening....

The law makes a distinction between a live baby and a fetus.

Anything else?

So....you agreed with the Supreme Court Dred Scott decision, too?

Not too strong in the thinking department, are you.


Anything else?

Don't know who that is. Please try again.

Hard to imagine that depth of ignorance.

Please drop back when you graduate elementary school, or when the thread gets to monster trucks and favorite 24-Hour All Cartoon Networks.

You're the one who replied with an unlinked comment. But you'd prefer to belittle than have an honest conversation. Got it.

 

[bodecea]

You should heed your own note!!!
But you couldn't be a CON$ervoFascist if you weren't a hypocrite!

Nu 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.

Do you own a calendar?

There is only only one (alleged) religion, called Islam, that has carried 7th century barbarism into the modern world.


Wise up, you dope.

And Judeo-Christianity brought BCE barbarism into the modern world until counter-acted by Enlightenism.

Egads! You're a dunce!!!

Write about something you understand!!!!


I don't have the time nor the interest to teach you everything you never learned....but here's the central nugget:

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror


Communism, National Socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....all have a the central doctrine:
"....an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature...." Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism"


There is no morality. No care or concern for other, or for life. Nor is any required. This is the gift of the Enlightenment, with its view to replacing religion with science, with reason.


I'd be more than happy to provide a short list of books you should....should....read.

What you posted doesn't change what I said one iota.

Here are some examples of christian barbarism:

The Crusades
The Inquisition
The St. Bartholomew Day Massacre
The Salem Witch trials
The Bonfire of the Vanities
Any and all pograms
The 30 Years War

And here is the proof of what I wrote:

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......111,850,000
#14 Liberal Demagoguery, Hate and Violence – A Compendium


From the Left....you know....your side.

Ok, so you admit that some christers (Hitler) were STILL barbarians after the Enlightenment.
(let us all remember that my post was talking about judeo-christianity being barbarous until the Enlightenment.......so it begs the question, why does PC start talking about communists...Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot and Shito-ists....Tojo)

 

[bodecea]

Really:
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — The wife of a conservative Michigan lawmaker says in a Facebook posting that she had an abortion while in high school and went public with it after someone approached her husband vowing to disclose the information.

In a public Facebook post last Friday, Stephanie Chatfield, the wife of GOP state Rep. Lee Chatfield from Levering Township wrote, “You informed my husband that you had heard a rumor, and that you would keep digging. You promised that you would ensure that this story went public. In fact, your desire to see this story go public emboldened me to do something that I should have done years ago.

“After speaking it over with my husband, I felt that telling my story was best,” she continued. “And no matter the intentions of anybody wishing to see this story go public, this I am certain of: God meant it for good and will glorify Himself through this.”

Conservative Michigan lawmaker's wife reveals teen abortion

and this wacko think God meant it for good. Its ok when the conservatives do it?

Was she thinking of converting to Islam?
Did you ask her?

In any case.....
The plural of anecdote is not 'data.'


Try this:
Let's settle the 'murder' question first.

What possible argument could you pro-abortionists have for murdering a separate and unique human being that would not apply to the same at age 8 months, suckling at its mother's breast?



The silence is deafening....

The law makes a distinction between a live baby and a fetus.

Anything else?

So....you agreed with the Supreme Court Dred Scott decision, too?

Not too strong in the thinking department, are you.


Anything else?

Don't know who that is. Please try again.

Hard to imagine that depth of ignorance.

Please drop back when you graduate elementary school, or when the thread gets to monster trucks and favorite 24-Hour All Cartoon Networks.

I see that you have fallen and can't get up.......thus the resorting to nothing but personal insults.

 

[GreenBean]

Bitch - It's now "Politically Incorrect" to use the term GLOBAL WARMING the correct newspeak is climate change ... hows that ... better ?

Still a lie.

LMAO .... What's a Lie ? .... everything you don't agree with ? ... yes I know there there there, supergirl and her cohorts wooped your ass in the debate so you're a little sore but wipe away those little tears, get your thoughts together and do tell ...Whats a Lie ?

 

[deanrd]

You should heed your own note!!!
But you couldn't be a CON$ervoFascist if you weren't a hypocrite!

Nu 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.

Do you own a calendar?

There is only only one (alleged) religion, called Islam, that has carried 7th century barbarism into the modern world.


Wise up, you dope.

And Judeo-Christianity brought BCE barbarism into the modern world until counter-acted by Enlightenism.

Egads! You're a dunce!!!

Write about something you understand!!!!


I don't have the time nor the interest to teach you everything you never learned....but here's the central nugget:

"If the French revolution was the end of monarchy and aristocratic privilege and the emergence of the common man and democratic rights, it was also the beginnings of modern totalitarian government and large-scale executions of "enemies of the People" by impersonal government entities (Robespierre's "Committee of Public Safety"). This legacy would not reach its fullest bloom until the tragic arrival of the German Nazis and Soviet and Chinese communists of the 20th century."
French Revolution - Robespierre, and the Legacy of the Reign of Terror


Communism, National Socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....all have a the central doctrine:
"....an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature...." Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism"


There is no morality. No care or concern for other, or for life. Nor is any required. This is the gift of the Enlightenment, with its view to replacing religion with science, with reason.


I'd be more than happy to provide a short list of books you should....should....read.

What you posted doesn't change what I said one iota.

Here are some examples of christian barbarism:

The Crusades
The Inquisition
The St. Bartholomew Day Massacre
The Salem Witch trials
The Bonfire of the Vanities
Any and all pograms
The 30 Years War

And here is the proof of what I wrote:

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......111,850,000
#14 Liberal Demagoguery, Hate and Violence – A Compendium


From the Left....you know....your side.

That's not proof moron. That's delusion.
Hitler, Pol Pot, Lenin and so on are liberals?
What the hell is wrong with you. Why do you think those guys want to kill teachers and college professors.
You want proof?
This is proof:

The majority of Republicans say colleges are bad for America (yes, really)

America hits peak anti-intellectualism: Majority of Republicans now...

And there you are, leading the charge.

Don't you have some gays you want to kill?

 

[deanrd]

There are certain characteristics that we have come to find in religion....and some that immediately exclude a worldview from that category......


1. “We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” Cult of Death

a. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226317/know-thy-enemy/michael-ledeen

b. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.”
http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp





2. "The Islamic practice of beheading enemies and sinners dates back to the Prophet Muhammad himself. According to Arab historian Ibn Ishaq (d. 768 C.E.), Muhammad ordered the beheadings of at least 600 Jewish Banu Qurayza tribesmen in Medina on suspicion of plotting against him.

Beheading also finds support in the Koran. In one passage, Allah says "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off" (8:12). In another, Muslims are exhorted to "confront the disbelievers, strike at their necks" (47:4).

In the modern era, the practice of beheading first came to Western attention when Muhammad Ahmad of the Sudan declared himself Mahdi in 1880 and waged a jihad against Ottoman Egyptian and British forces. Ahmad's followers routinely beheaded their opponents, most famously British Gen. Charles Gordon.

The modern video beheading phenomenon began in 2002 when 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM) decapitated Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. KSM was captured shortly afterwards, but al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi took the idea and ran with it in a series of grisly videos showing the beheading of Western civilian contractors and others in Iraq. Zarqawi followed the parameters of the genre established by KSM: prayers, insults, recitation from the Koran, beheading, posing with the head. As a final insult, the ceremony ends when the severed head is set upon the back of the dismembered corpse.

Beheading videos disappeared for a while but resumed in 2014 with the rise of ISIS. The prime actor in this third wave of video terrorism was English-speaking ISIS operative Mohammed Emwazi, dubbed "Jihadi John" by the British press....
Kathy Griffin Needs to Check Her Infidel Privilege [Satire]




...certain characteristics that immediately exclude a worldview from the category of 'religion'......

Hmmm, the love of death:

American pastors calling for the murder of millions of Americans:

Pastor Roger Jimenez
Pastor Steven Anderson
Pastor Kevin Swanson
Pastor Jesse Price
Pastor Charles L. Worley
Pastor Bert Farias
Pastor Jeffrey S. Smith
Pastor Curtis Napp
Pastor James David Manning

We can watch their sermons on Youtube. They preach murder to their "flocks" every Sunday.



I'm against violence, but I believe they should be executed by the government.



Putting them to death limits conversions. The government should kill them.

Do the majority of Republicans believe in mass murder? Probably. As far as I know, there aren't any statistics saying they don't.

Here's a post FILLED with evidence of how fuked up the GOP is. They support monsters because they are monsters.