Zone1 When Is A Baby Considered Alive?

[Monk-Eye]

" Actual Natural Laws Versus Conjectural Macabre Of Final Judgement Day From Contemporary Natural Law Hubris *

* Apex Predator Demands Answers For Indifference *

Even through the exceptions it's still killing it.

Have ewe submitted a petition to yearn goad demanding accountability , for in and of itself doing nothing to stop abortion , or to prevent suffering , or to stop death ?

A law exists because there is an entity capable of and issuing a retort for violations of some legal construct , and there is not a law in nature or a law from goad against killing .

So how is it then by any other than anthropocentric psychosis do apex predator hue mammon apes come to demand exception from exploitation , whether for convenience or for actual necessity ?

. Zone1 - Anthropocentic Psychosis : How Compelling And To Which Ends Are Its Impacts Within Hue Mammon Society ? , Equal Protection Of Citizenship Is In A State Of Sedition Because Of Supreme Court Ruling On Abortion , Zone1 - Civis Etas Unis Sum And Subject To The Jurisdiction Thereof Clause From Us 14th Amendment , Demand Any Nomination For Us Supreme Court Justice Explain Blackmun ' Logically Of Course ' Statement From Roe V Wade .

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

" Actual Natural Laws Versus Conjectural Macabre Of Final Judgement Day From Contemporary Natural Law Hubris *

* Apex Predator Demands Answers For Indifference *

Have ewe submitted a petition to yearn goad demanding accountability , for in and of itself doing nothing to stop abortion , or to prevent suffering , or to stop death ?

A law exists because there is an entity capable of and issuing a retort for violations of some legal construct , and there is not a law in nature or a law from goad against killing .

So how is it than by any other than anthropocentric psychosis do apex predator hue mammon apes come to demand exception from exploitation ?

. Zone1 - Anthropocentic Psychosis : How Compelling And To Which Ends Are Its Impacts Within Hue Mammon Society ? , Equal Protection Of Citizenship Is In A State Of Sedition Because Of Supreme Court Ruling On Abortion , Zone1 - Civis Etas Unis Sum And Subject To The Jurisdiction Thereof Clause From Us 14th Amendment .

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Wow!

What a plateful of word salad!

Is that you, Kamala?







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[Monk-Eye]

" Conceited Arrogance Of Apex Predator Damned Dirty Apes "

* Alive So What Difference Does That Make ? *

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Wow!
What a plateful of word salad!
Is that you, Kamala?
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The words do not represent a plate full of salad , rather the words represent a plate full of meat .

 

[JoeB131]

I've been saying when they get a heartbeat for years but this guy makes a valid point. Plants are alive and they don't have heartbeats. They're alive because they're growing. So I guess a fetus can be alive in that sense.

Here's when a baby is alive. When the mother says it is.

"The Baby is coming in September" - baby is alive.

"I have to take care of that thing on Tuesday!" - Baby isn't alive.

See how that works?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

" Conceited Arrogance Of Apex Predator Damned Dirty Apes "

* Alive So What Difference Does That Make ? *

The words do not represent a plate full of salad , rather the words represent a plate full of meat .

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And that fixes that.








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[JoeB131]

" Conceited Arrogance Of Apex Predator Damned Dirty Apes "

* Alive So What Difference Does That Make ? *

The words do not represent a plate full of salad , rather the words represent a plate full of meat .

Dude, you are strange. I usually put you on ignore to avoid your word-salad.

 

[Road Runner]

Here's when a baby is alive. When the mother says it is.

"The Baby is coming in September" - baby is alive.

"I have to take care of that thing on Tuesday!" - Baby isn't alive.

See how that works?

No. Not at all.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Vying For Fame Not Fortune "

* Thread With Retarded Premise Promoted As Credence *

Dude, you are strange. I usually put you on ignore to avoid your word-salad.

Censure is why the fee press is failing .

An infant is a newborn and when an infant begins to babble at about 3 - 4 months after birth it is consequently ascribed a connotation as a baby .

The premise of the thread does not belong in zone 1 , it belongs in the flame zone , as its terminology and allusions are intellectually false and stupid .

 

[JoeB131]

No. Not at all.

Afraid so.

You see, if a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she'll figure out a way to not be pregnant.

 

[Road Runner]

Afraid so.

You see, if a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she'll figure out a way to not be pregnant.

Yeah but that doesn't mean that it's fair.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah but that doesn't mean that it's fair.

Life isn't fair.

Here's the thing. In the past, a woman would often have a lot of children, (even though one in ten childbirth resulted in death) because the majority of them wouldn't survive to adulthood.

For instance, Wolfgang Mozart and his wife had six children, only two of them got out of childhood alive.

Now, infant mortality is fairly low, so there's no reason for a woman to have six pregnancies.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Afraid so.

You see, if a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she'll figure out a way to not be pregnant.

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Even Catholics know how to not get pregnant in the first place, if they don't want to have a baby. It's called NFP and I know several Catholic couples who have used it successfully to plan their families without using methods the church frowns upon.

It takes a little discipline.

Why are leftist women not smart enough, or disciplined enough, to figure out how to just not get pregnant?


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[Monk-Eye]

" Proselytes Proffer Admonition Against Promiscuity But Mistake An Authority Of Their Religion To Enforce It "

* Scotus To Tx SB8 Illegitimate Aggression Against Individuals Citizens Thereby Admitting Dobbs Is Constitutionally Dumbfounded *

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Even Catholics know how to not get pregnant in the first place, if they don't want to have a baby. It's called NFP and I know several Catholic couples who have used it successfully to plan their families without using methods the church frowns upon.
It takes a little discipline.

There is not a difference between edicts and tenets of a creed and a religion and none are preventing a free exercise of yearn religion about procreation and yearn religion is not entitled to prevent others from exercising the edicts and tenets of their creed about procreation , so long as the enumerated rite of equal protection through live birth from us 14th amendment is not violated .

The basis of us republicanism for us republic is independence of the individual through equal protection of negative liberties among individuals , whether an individual is a greater individual as a collective of individuals , whether as a federate , or as a state , or as a corporate , or as a civil litigant .

As a greater individual , a collective state of individuals institutes laws to protect individual citizens from illegitimate aggression by other individuals .

The abortion anti-choice justification that abortion by one individual is illegitimate aggression against another individual neither exists as a private interest , nor as a legitimate state interest .

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/21/21A85/196650/20211018120230336_US v. Texas application final.pdf
The United States has a sovereign interest in ensuring the supremacy of federal law by preventing a State from suspending a constitutional right within its borders.

Indeed, S.B. 8’s entire structure for its private enforcement suits manifests overt hostility to a defense based on this Court’s decisions recognizing a constitutional right to abortion. See pp.5-7, supra.

a. S.B. 8 is a statute enacted by the Texas legislature,signed by the Texas governor, and enforceable in Texas courts. If Texas had not enacted S.B. 8, no private plaintiff could maintainthe cause of action that it creates. And no plaintiff could maintain an S.B. 8 cause of action or recover the statutory damages it authorizes without action by the Texas courts. It is, in short, plain that Texas is responsible for the constitutional violations caused by S.B. 8. It should be equally plain that where, as here,the State’s sovereign immunity does not apply, Texas can be enjoined to prevent those violations.

Link easily located in alternative social media - Montana Supreme Court Nixes Extremist Anti Abortion laws, Citing onstitutional Privacy Rights .


* Freak Farmer Fanatics Cite Puritanism To Ignore 6% Developmental Anomalies For With Cause Abortion *

Why are leftist women not smart enough, or disciplined enough, to figure out how to just not get pregnant?
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Why is yearn goad not smart enough , or disciplined enough , to figure out how not to allow retarded offspring ?

The 3% severe congenital abnormalities in the fetus , along with the 3% developmental anomalies in the mother , which account for an approximate 6% of abortion with cause that occurs after 13 weeks , have nothing to do with figuring out how not to get pregnant .

The abortion anti-choice ignore that an approximate 94% of without cause abortions occur well before an embryo becomes a fetus ( feet of us , feat of us ) at approximately 15 weeks , even as some promote a quickening at 120 days , or 16 weeks , as an onset of ensoulment ( in sole mint ) .

 

[JoeB131]

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Even Catholics know how to not get pregnant in the first place, if they don't want to have a baby. It's called NFP and I know several Catholic couples who have used it successfully to plan their families without using methods the church frowns upon.

It takes a little discipline.

Why are leftist women not smart enough, or disciplined enough, to figure out how to just not get pregnant?


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I'm sure your personality is sufficient for birth control, but in the real world, people are having sex and using abortions to take care of the aftermath. Even Catholics.

I grew up Catholic. Guess what. They used birth control, but when birth control failed, it was a trip to the abortion clinic.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I'm sure your personality is sufficient for birth control, but in the real world, people are having sex and using abortions to take care of the aftermath. Even Catholics.

I grew up Catholic. Guess what. They used birth control, but when birth control failed, it was a trip to the abortion clinic.

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Sure thing, buckaroo.

Sure thing.



PS -- Nice way to talk to a 70 year old married woman, whiner.






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[JoeB131]

Sure thing, buckaroo.

Sure thing.

PS -- Nice way to talk to a 70 year old married woman, whiner.

Your prudishness doesn't really matter to me.

I'm in my sixties. Don't have to worry about BC because my wife is post-menopausal, but I always used protection.

When I was younger, though, we were all having sex, despite what the Church said. We all just kind of rolled our eyes when they said "Rhythem Method". Then we went out and bought condoms and the girls got the pill. And a few unlucky souls who weren't careful had to take care of that thing on Tuesday.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Your prudishness doesn't really matter to me.

I'm in my sixties. Don't have to worry about BC because my wife is post-menopausal, but I always used protection.

When I was younger, though, we were all having sex, despite what the Church said. We all just kind of rolled our eyes when they said "Rhythem Method". Then we went out and bought condoms and the girls got the pill. And a few unlucky souls who weren't careful had to take care of that thing on Tuesday.

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Well, look at all the SJW brownie points you've earned.






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[JoeB131]

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Well, look at all the SJW brownie points you've earned.

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Hardly.

I'm a pragmatist.

If a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she'll find a way to not be pregnant.

Compare and contrast.

I give you the Philippines vs. France.

Now, the Philippines have the kinds of laws you religious nutters want. Abortion is illegal in all cases except to save the life of the mother.

Yet they have anywhere from 500K to 800K illegal abortions in the Philippines every year. Some estimates put the number as high as 1.1 million. This is in a country that has maybe a third the population of the US. And this is in a country that has nowhere near our levels of individual freedom.

Compare that to France. Abortion is legal, and the government pays for it. But the government also pays for health care and child care and even provides government workers to stop by and help new mothers. They've destigmatized out-of-wedlock births, and 60% of French births happen outside of marriage. yet their abortion rate is LOWER than the US.



(PS, why do you do that thing with the periods to take up too much space on one line posts?)

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Hardly.

I'm a pragmatist.

If a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she'll find a way to not be pregnant.

Compare and contrast.

I give you the Philippines vs. France.

Now, the Philippines have the kinds of laws you religious nutters want. Abortion is illegal in all cases except to save the life of the mother.

Yet they have anywhere from 500K to 800K illegal abortions in the Philippines every year. Some estimates put the number as high as 1.1 million. This is in a country that has maybe a third the population of the US. And this is in a country that has nowhere near our levels of individual freedom.

Compare that to France. Abortion is legal, and the government pays for it. But the government also pays for health care and child care and even provides government workers to stop by and help new mothers. They've destigmatized out-of-wedlock births, and 60% of French births happen outside of marriage. yet their abortion rate is LOWER than the US.



(PS, why do you do that thing with the periods to take up too much space on one line posts?)

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Do you get points for every word you type?

Oh, silly me. Of course you do. Points or cash.








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[JoeB131]

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Do you get points for every word you type?

Oh, silly me. Of course you do. Points or cash.








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Nope, this is just a hobby for me.

I can't imagine a business model where paying people to type on USMB would make any sense. Your audience is probably about 200 people who are already set in their views.