When I suggest that we need term limits the left ALWAYS says, thats taking the citizens right to vote away. Well riddle me this

[Crepitus]

Roughly 25% of the nation's total debt in our History of existance, was incurred during the Trump Administration's 4 years.

Whose votes was Trump and the republicans buying?

Rich people's.

 

[Care4all]

How is filing lawsuits all over the country to remove Trump from the ballot not taking away the citizens right to vote? You are blatantly trying to disenfranchise ⅓ of the America population. Trump was never charged with insurrection, much less convicted of it, so how the hell do you justify taking away the citizens right to vote for him?
Now a group in DC is sueing to have him removed from the ballot in a state they don't even live in.



You people are pushing so hard that it's quite possible you will create a backlash you will regret for decades, or worse.

And if you actually believe that the majority of Americans agree with your position on him being unfit why goto these lengths and take the risk? Is it perhaps that you don't actually believe that?

If he is not eligible, why would he even be allowed to run?

That's what those suing, want to find out.

We are a Nation of Laws, not men....right?

It's ambiguous, because Congress never codified this part of the constitution....basically, we have the Constitution saying it, without directions on how to use the clause....

These people want directions, and are hoping the court can direct them....

I don't think the court will be able to help define it further than what the constitution says.....leaving the nation in limbo on it.....But we will see.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

If he is not eligible, why would he even be allowed to run?

That's what those suing, want to find out.

We are a Nation of Laws, not men....right?

It's ambiguous, because Congress never codified this part of the constitution....basically, we have the Constitution saying it, without directions on how to use the clause....

These people want directions, and are hoping the court can direct them....

I don't think the court will be able to help define it further than what the constitution says.....leaving the nation in limbo on it.....But we will see.

Do you file a lawsuit every time you want to find out the specifics of what is or isn't a law???

What a criminally stupid post.

 

[Batcat]

How is filing lawsuits all over the country to remove Trump from the ballot not taking away the citizens right to vote? You are blatantly trying to disenfranchise ⅓ of the America population. Trump was never charged with insurrection, much less convicted of it, so how the hell do you justify taking away the citizens right to vote for him?
Now a group in DC is sueing to have him removed from the ballot in a state they don't even live in.



You people are pushing so hard that it's quite possible you will create a backlash you will regret for decades, or worse.

And if you actually believe that the majority of Americans agree with your position on him being unfit why goto these lengths and take the risk? Is it perhaps that you don't actually believe that?

First you should realize democrats have little if any respect for the ancient document called the Constitution. They also look down on conservatives as Neanderthals.

They plan to use the court system to gain power and rule this nation. If they win big time in 2024 and control the Presidency and Congress you can bet they will stack the Supreme Court with liberals. If that happens you will shortly live in a Marxist socialist workers paradise where the liberals will raise your children, not you.

Democrats Want to Raise Your Kids. Republicans Fight for Parental Rights

This is just the beginning. The days of ceding cultural issues to the Left are over. Democrats will feel it come November.

www.newsweek.com

The following article is well worth reading. …

Democrats Love Socialism Because They Want To Take Your Stuff And Enslave You

In contrast, in freedom and capitalism, the people with guns protect you from having what's yours taken.

townhall.com

 

[Care4all]

Stopping a government function by force or violence.

What's the difference between the two, between force and violence, anyone know?

Just seems strange the law mentions both?

How does one use violence to stop a government function, without force as well?

Maybe by force, would be something similar to a 1/6....? and by violence could be something like an assassination or a bloody, armed insurrection?

 

[rampart]

How is filing lawsuits all over the country to remove Trump from the ballot not taking away the citizens right to vote? You are blatantly trying to disenfranchise ⅓ of the America population. Trump was never charged with insurrection, much less convicted of it, so how the hell do you justify taking away the citizens right to vote for him?
Now a group in DC is sueing to have him removed from the ballot in a state they don't even live in.



You people are pushing so hard that it's quite possible you will create a backlash you will regret for decades, or worse.

And if you actually believe that the majority of Americans agree with your position on him being unfit why goto these lengths and take the risk? Is it perhaps that you don't actually believe that?

yes. we know that trump is now and has always been unfit to lead a noy scout triip. look what his leadership has accomplished for the proud boys.

the efforts to exclude trump with clause 3, by the way, are generally republican officials in red states. i agree with them (trump will never break 50% in any kind of general election, but as we know that will not prevent the electoral college from electing him. )

while many americans might agree with some of trump's stated policies, those are like everything else that springs from his pie hole, the same kind of bullshit pick up line he uses on former soviet models.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

yes. we know that trump is now and has always been unfit to lead a noy scout triip. look what his leadership has accomplished for the proud boys.

the efforts to exclude trump with clause 3, by the way, are generally republican officials in red states. i agree with them (trump will never break 50% in any kind of general election, but as we know that will not prevent the electoral college from electing him. )

while many americans might agree with some of trump's stated policies, those are like everything else that springs from his pie hole, the same kind of bullshit pick up line he uses on former soviet models.

He is stomping Biden in the new CNN polls. Get your crayons and safety blankets ready.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I don't believe in congressional term limits because it violates the constitution and the founders had a reason to have no term limits.

As far as barring Trump from the vote; I disagree with it but we will have to let the courts sort out the constitutionality of it. I will accept whatever their ultimate interpretation is.

I don’t think the possibility of professional politcians ever occurred to the founders. Perhaps they were idealistic, but they expected people to be elected by their neighbors, go to DC to represent them, then go home. That’s how it worked for a long time.

 

[rampart]

First you should realize democrats have little if any respect for the ancient document called the Constitution. They also look down on conservatives as Neanderthals.

They plan to use the court system to gain power and rule this nation. If they win big time in 2024 and control the Presidency and Congress you can bet they will stack the Supreme Court with liberals. If that happens you will shortly live in a Marxist socialist workers paradise where the liberals will raise your children, not you.

Democrats Want to Raise Your Kids. Republicans Fight for Parental Rights

This is just the beginning. The days of ceding cultural issues to the Left are over. Democrats will feel it come November.

www.newsweek.com

The following article is well worth reading. …

Democrats Love Socialism Because They Want To Take Your Stuff And Enslave You

In contrast, in freedom and capitalism, the people with guns protect you from having what's yours taken.

townhall.com

white parents in the usa do not now and have never raised their children. that is a job for nannies until they are old enough to pack off to prep school .

 

[rampart]

He is stomping Biden in the new CNN polls. Get your crayons and safety blankets ready.

maybe i'm getting my mini 14 ready for either outcome. will you accept the loss when you are wrong? neither will he.

 

[Care4all]

Do you file a lawsuit every time you want to find out the specifics of what is or isn't a law???

What a criminally stupid post.

what do you suggest they do besides suing? Nothing? What would trump do it in their shoes? He'd sue them.

if he is ineligible to run for any government office, why should he be able to run.

if it were someone under 35, would they be able to be put on the ballot and run? If someone was not a natural born citizen would they be able to be put on the ballot and run? Each Secretary of State, determines who is eligible following the constitution... She doesn't allow a 30 year old candidate to be on her state's ballot....or be a presidential candidate at all....

Why would this section 3 of the 14thA, be handled any differently, is what those suing want answered.

Trump waited 3 hours with his supporters and seditionists attacking the capitol and police and delaying the electoral count, before sending them home. He aided the seditionists, by doing absolutely nothing for those 3 HOURS as President of the United States.

He took an oath, to follow the constitution and all laws derived from it....?

It is questionable, whether he is eligible to run....I guess the courts will have to decide, but who knows?

It's unfair to eligible candidates if he is ineligible.

And it would be more unfair for the voters to find out after they voted for their candidate in the primary, that their candidate later became ineligible after the primary was over.

This does need to be decided before the primary imho.

 

[MinTrut]

How is filing lawsuits all over the country to remove Trump from the ballot not taking away the citizens right to vote? You are blatantly trying to disenfranchise ⅓ of the America population. Trump was never charged with insurrection, much less convicted of it, so how the hell do you justify taking away the citizens right to vote for him?
Now a group in DC is sueing to have him removed from the ballot in a state they don't even live in.



You people are pushing so hard that it's quite possible you will create a backlash you will regret for decades, or worse.

And if you actually believe that the majority of Americans agree with your position on him being unfit why goto these lengths and take the risk? Is it perhaps that you don't actually believe that?

This has nothing to do with the left.

Many on the left support Trump.

 

[Batcat]

white parents in the usa do not now and have never raised their children. that is a job for nannies until they are old enough to pack off to prep school .

I don’t know one white family that has a “nanny” and I have never met one that I know of.

In the early stages of childhood I have heard of grandmothers helping for a week to a month. After that a good number of working parents sent their young children to a child care center.

According to the following article …

• There are over 167,172 family nannies currently employed in the United States.

There are a lot more white families than 167,172.

Family Nanny Demographics and Statistics [2023]: Number Of Family Nannys In The US

How many Family Nannys are in US? More than 167,172. Learn more about 2023 demographics based on factors such as age, race, sex, salary and location.

www.zippia.com

 

[Dragonlady]

Republicans never win the popular vote as they are not about giveaways. Democrats are run by the elites that cater to the poor only at election time

There's that term "elites" again. Don't you believe that all people are created equal? Why do you believe there are "elites" in America??? This is the first lie Republicans tell you. There are no "elites" in America. Just the concept of a socially stratified society goes against the
Founding Principle that "all men are created equal".

Why do you think it's wrong for government programs to help the poorest Americans???? Aren't they the ones who need it the most???? Why does the richest nation in the world, have the highest rates of poverty in the first world?????

Republicans will never win the popular vote because they have no policies, no plans and no platform. And every time they get the White House, they crash the economy, throwing millions more into poverty.

 

[Dragonlady]

white parents in the usa do not now and have never raised their children. that is a job for nannies until they are old enough to pack off to prep school .

Tell us you don't live in the USA without saying you don't live in the USA.

If you think all white kids have nannies and go to prep school, you've never even visited the USA much less live here.

 

[rampart]

There's that term "elites" again. Don't you believe that all people are created equal? Why do you believe there are "elites" in America??? This is the first lie Republicans tell you. There are no "elites" in America. Just the concept of a socially stratified society goes against the
Founding Principle that "all men are created equal".

Why do you think it's wrong for government programs to help the poorest Americans???? Aren't they the ones who need it the most???? Why does the richest nation in the world, have the highest rates of poverty in the first world?????

Republicans will never win the popular vote because they have no policies, no plans and no platform. And every time they get the White House, they crash the economy, throwing millions more into poverty.

"we do not have poverty because the poor have no jobs. we have poverty because the rich are never satisfied."

 

[Dragonlady]

Patriots

There are no "Patriots" amongst Trump voters. All of you hate the country and want to see it destroyed. You don't think the USA is a "great" country, and you want to "ignore" the Constitution.

Trump attracts haters and those who just want to stomp on those they hate. Patriots love their nation and want to build it up, not tear it down, and destroy it.

 

[Ordinary Guy]

There's that term "elites" again. Don't you believe that all people are created equal? Why do you believe there are "elites" in America??? This is the first lie Republicans tell you. There are no "elites" in America. Just the concept of a socially stratified society goes against the
Founding Principle that "all men are created equal".

Why do you think it's wrong for government programs to help the poorest Americans???? Aren't they the ones who need it the most???? Why does the richest nation in the world, have the highest rates of poverty in the first world?????

Republicans will never win the popular vote because they have no policies, no plans and no platform. And every time they get the White House, they crash the economy, throwing millions more into poverty.

Trump gave me 73.3% returns during his term, Biden -19.3%, disposable income up when Republicans lead, down under democrats. Apparently you don't understand your own bottom line which disqualifies you from this conversation.

 

[Ordinary Guy]

Roughly 25% of the nation's total debt in our History of existance, was incurred during the Trump Administration's 4 years.

Whose votes was Trump and the republicans buying?

and most of that was Obamacare which grows the debt more and more each year

 

[bodecea]

How is filing lawsuits all over the country to remove Trump from the ballot not taking away the citizens right to vote? You are blatantly trying to disenfranchise ⅓ of the America population. Trump was never charged with insurrection, much less convicted of it, so how the hell do you justify taking away the citizens right to vote for him?
Now a group in DC is sueing to have him removed from the ballot in a state they don't even live in.



You people are pushing so hard that it's quite possible you will create a backlash you will regret for decades, or worse.

And if you actually believe that the majority of Americans agree with your position on him being unfit why goto these lengths and take the risk? Is it perhaps that you don't actually believe that?

Read the Constitution some day....particularly Article 1 (for the lack of Legislative term limits) and the 14th Amendment.