When guns are outlawed....

[Little-Acorn]

The old bumper sticker still says it best: When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

I still smile tenderly at people who insist they only want the government to restrict guns a little. Or only ban certain "especially bad" ones. Or create just a few "gun free zones" around schools or churches or wherever. Or etc. History has shown over an over, that once you grant government the authority to put ANY restrictions on personal weapons, it tries over the ensuing years to put more and more, until private ownership or use is basically impossible. Except for those who disobey the law, of course. And every time, a new batch of do-gooders shows up, and insists that with them, it will be different.

Same goes for the ones who demand, "Why do you NEED such-and-such a gun?" These people don't seem to see any problem with a requirement to explain to some outside entity our reasons for wanting the ability to be armed, as a necessary condition to buy or own one.

Do these misnamed "gun buyback" programs actually reduce crime? Everyone has an opinion. But does anybody have any FACTS? Some study you can point to showing crime levels before and after a buyback program? Or anything similar?

And before you get huffy about the fact that the above "gun-buyback" program was voluntary, and not MANDATED by government, permit me to guide you back to the issue it illustrates: People without guns are vulnerable to predation by people who have them. The guy saw right away that the woman had money. But he didn't pull his gun on her until he was sure she didn't have hers any more.

Sure, she made her own choice to give up her gun. But when people have that choice taken away by government and are forced to do so, the lawbreakers can be even more sure their law-abiding victims are unarmed; and less inhibited about going after them.

 

[Reneer]

The old bumper sticker still says it best: When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

I still smile tenderly at people who insist they only want the government to restrict guns a little. Or only ban certain "especially bad" ones. Or create just a few "gun free zones" around schools or churches or wherever. Or etc. History has shown over an over, that once you grant government the authority to put ANY restrictions on personal weapons, it tries over the ensuing years to put more and more, until private ownership or use is basically impossible. Except for those who disobey the law, of course. And every time, a new batch of do-gooders shows up, and insists that with them, it will be different.

Same goes for the ones who demand, "Why do you NEED such-and-such a gun?" These people don't seem to see any problem with a requirement to explain to some outside entity our reasons for wanting the ability to be armed, as a necessary condition to buy or own one.

Do these misnamed "gun buyback" programs actually reduce crime? Everyone has an opinion. But does anybody have any FACTS? Some study you can point to showing crime levels before and after a buyback program? Or anything similar?

And before you get huffy about the fact that the above "gun-buyback" program was voluntary, and not MANDATED by government, permit me to guide you back to the issue it illustrates: People without guns are vulnerable to predation by people who have them. The guy saw right away that the woman had money. But he didn't pull his gun on her until he was sure she didn't have hers any more.

Sure, she made her own choice to give up her gun. But when people have that choice taken away by government and are forced to do so, the lawbreakers can be even more sure their law-abiding victims are unarmed; and less inhibited about going after them.

I know this is going to surprise people, but I actually dislike curbs on gun ownership. Gun safety, however, I'm all for (though it shouldn't be enforced by the government.)

 

[BaronVonBigmeat]

I'm 100% pro gun control. It's very important to have good control of your gun and hold the sights steady, otherwise you miss the scumbag who has broken into your home.

 

[Hobbit]

This message brought to you by the second ammendment. It's in there. Look it up.

 

[Little-Acorn]

I'm 100% pro gun control. It's very important to have good control of your gun and hold the sights steady, otherwise you miss the scumbag who has broken into your home.

My second-favorite bumper sticker: GUN CONTROL MEANS USING BOTH HANDS.

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[5stringJeff]

I have yet to see any good argument in favor of gun control. And even if someone succeeded in repealing the Second Amendment and banning my guns, they'd have to come and take them out of my cold dead hands.

 

[archangel]

I have yet to see any good argument in favor of gun control. And even if someone succeeded in repealing the Second Amendment and banning my guns, "they'd have to come and take them out of my cold dead hands."

ahhh... the famous quote by Charleton Heston...must agrre!

 

[trobinett]

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ahhh... the famous quote by Charleton Heston...must agrre!

Charleton Heston?

Naww, "Men in Black", right before he was pulled into the pit.:gang1:

 

[Nienna]

Charleton Heston?

Naww, "Men in Black", right before he was pulled into the pit.:gang1:

Ahhhhh... the generation gap!

 

[archangel]

Ahhhhh... the generation gap!

No gap here...hey I liked "Men in Black" and Wil Smith is a funny guy...however the line was stolen from Charleton Heston...it was in a speech he made while President of the NRA way before Men In black was written!


I can't believe ol' trob put a ? mark after Hestons name though...he was a legendary actor!:2guns:


Then again it was the 'old fart' who made this comment in 'Men in Black'...I rest my case!

 

[trobinett]

On a more serious note.

I live in rual Arkansas, It might be thirty minutes befor ANYONE arrives for a 911 call.

Ya better be ready to take care of yourself.

Lots of places to hide a body.

 

[Gunny]

The old bumper sticker still says it best: When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

I still smile tenderly at people who insist they only want the government to restrict guns a little. Or only ban certain "especially bad" ones. Or create just a few "gun free zones" around schools or churches or wherever. Or etc. History has shown over an over, that once you grant government the authority to put ANY restrictions on personal weapons, it tries over the ensuing years to put more and more, until private ownership or use is basically impossible. Except for those who disobey the law, of course. And every time, a new batch of do-gooders shows up, and insists that with them, it will be different.

Same goes for the ones who demand, "Why do you NEED such-and-such a gun?" These people don't seem to see any problem with a requirement to explain to some outside entity our reasons for wanting the ability to be armed, as a necessary condition to buy or own one.

Do these misnamed "gun buyback" programs actually reduce crime? Everyone has an opinion. But does anybody have any FACTS? Some study you can point to showing crime levels before and after a buyback program? Or anything similar?

And before you get huffy about the fact that the above "gun-buyback" program was voluntary, and not MANDATED by government, permit me to guide you back to the issue it illustrates: People without guns are vulnerable to predation by people who have them. The guy saw right away that the woman had money. But he didn't pull his gun on her until he was sure she didn't have hers any more.

Sure, she made her own choice to give up her gun. But when people have that choice taken away by government and are forced to do so, the lawbreakers can be even more sure their law-abiding victims are unarmed; and less inhibited about going after them.

Guns? WHAT guns? Don't know ANYTHING 'bout any guns, officer. Honest.:halo:

 

[Rico]

When guns are outlawed only the government will have guns.

The people then would have no means by which to physically overthrow a tyranical government.

I believe at the heart of the Demo/Marxist-Leninist anti gun movement is the desire to rid the people of the ability, through the use of firearms, to overthrow a tyranical socialist/communist goverment. The type of all powerful government that constitutes a liberal's dream.

 

[Gunny]

When guns are outlawed only the government will have guns.

The people then would have no means by which to physically overthrow a tyranical government.

I believe at the heart of the Demo/Marxist-Leninist anti gun movement is the desire to rid the people of the ability, through the use of firearms, to overthrow a tyranical socialist/communist goverment. The type of all powerful government that constitutes a liberal's dream.

I'd say the bigger fear is perfectly illustrated in the cartoon. Like criminals are going to continue to be criminals EXCEPT adhere to gun laws. A disarmed public just makes their job all the more easy.