pknopp
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NO they were fighting over all the pork in the Dems bill......because the GOP was concerned about the Debt.....the Dems only came around AFTER the election.True...but that was one piece of the relief package...the Dems were asking for two trillion, mainly to their pet projects and donor bailouts.....and wouldn't move for months..months....they wouldn't come to any agreement until after the election, which Trump was happy to sign to help hurting Americans. The Dems held the American people hostage for months to hurt the President....party over country....the DNC wayI am fine with a $2K check to those that qualify just like Trump supported. That's not the issue.I've condemed the Dems packages!I don't support it, it exist....I have no idea what sort of stuff his business does or the number of employees etc....so maybe...We didn't give Tom Brady a million bucks....your own link says it went to a company of his, a company that employed people, people that needed to keep their jobs.I don't think Tom the individual did....and he likely didn't get the $1200 check. The small business, which is a different entity then Tom Brady the person, might have....and well sounds like he did.So his small business got a PPP loan, not Tom himself? What's your point? PPP was met for business to keep employees on their payroll and stay in business.Really? Tom got a million dollar check from the US Govt? Can I see the link?Not sure what you are talking about....we have been trying to get a second covid relief package passed for sometime....the left refused over and over again to compromise on their massive spending bill, mitch and the gop were concerned at the massive bill and offered packages that were focused just on covid offering much less..so they were certainly concerned.Why not? No one has cared about the debt for years so why start now?
Under Mitch we passed a bill that gave Tom Brady a million dollars.
Tom Brady's health and wellness company received a $1 million PPP loan.
Good that was the point of the PPP program.....does the dems bill not have the widely popular PPP?
Do you really think Tom needed 1 million from the taxpayers to stay in business?
Now do people on the street need help to simply pay their rent?
I guess by your logic, anyone with money, that has a business shouldn't have taken PPP loans because well, they could have used the personal money to fund the business.
Which seems to defeat the purpose
If we can give a multi millionaire a million more I am not going to complain about regular people getting whatever they get.
Do you not understand the difference between an individual, and a company they mgiht be a part of? This was a small business at that.
What I find upsetting about the Dems new bill...is they are giving their donors in Silican Valley, a tunnel....it including building a tunnel for their rich donors.....I mean come on!
Small businesses, and their employees like the one Tom has, is really impacted by all this ...Silicon Valley isn't...and what the heck does building them a tunnel have to do with Covid??
Do you really think Tom Brady need a million dollars to keep his business afloat?
But you prove another point. The PPP added millions and millions to the debt and here you are defending it and people say people care about the debt. Obviously you do not.
Of course it did, but the alternative was to do nothing and allow millions people to be unemployed, businesses to shut down, and likely never recover...and thus losing a massive tax base.
the PPP was a good program to help deal with crisis that was the Chinese Virus.....the dems adding building a tunnel for their donors in Silcon Valley is a bad and horrible idea and undo burden to our debt. The GOP pushing to keep that out shows they care about the debt
You support debt so don't pretend you care about the debt. I support helping people and you call me a communist. You support giant socialist programs and pretend they are not.
You made excuses for it. You support it. If you didn't support it you would have simply condemned it.
Yes, I made an excuse for a relief package...that being Covid.
So let me get this straight, because you are all over the place....you don't support any Covid Relief package now? None what so ever?
Sorry, I can't take that position.....but I am certainly taking a position that whatever the package is, it be limited to Covid Relief, not massive pork spending, or used to hold Americans hostage to try and get other wishes though...like paying back donors in SIlcon Valley
I don't support those who supported them under Trump but now don't under Biden even though Trump called for $2000.
I don't support those who condemn the fluff when it was there under Trump also.
If you want to condemn the packages because they add to the debt, do so. I won't argue with you but condemn them all and those who signed off on them.
The GOP in the Senate blocked Nancy's bill and tried to work with her, she refused....Trump bent even more, to try and get relief done, Nancy wouldn't bend....
Trump and Nancy was on the same side. They both wanted $2000. Mitch said no and it was $600.
I don't know of anyone that has said a Covid Relief package shouldn't be passed because of the debt.....I've only heard people condemn the Dems package because it adds unnecessaryly to the debt, and is being used as a way to add wish list, and donor bailouts.....a cheaper package focused on Covid Relief should be passed....but the Dems refuse to do that.
So you agree, you want the GOP to shut down the Dems package right?
If they decided to shut down the government over spending, I would support that.
The only disagreement at that point was the amount of stimulus for the people. Trump and Pelosi agreed on $2000. Mitch said no.
They held the American people hostage and attempted to extort from the Tres to bailout their comrades that have mismanaged their states with Dem policies for years....and to make Trump look bad during the election.
It was all agreed upon other than the 2K. Trump sided with Pelosi.