What will trump do after another school shooting on his watch ?

[Ghost of a Rider]

viability. per roe v wade.

That might mean something if biology never intended fetuses to grow into babies. But they always do unless the mother miscarries or dies. Therefore, what the Supreme Court considers not "viable" is just a step in the life stage of a child with the predictable outcome that it will be born and it will be human. In other words, since the fetus will progress to a born child at some point, it was viable as a human life at conception.

m'kay ... & most pro birth are not pro life.

All you're doing is giving me more opinion.

when that zygote, embryo. early gestational fetus cannot survive outside the womb.

A human cannot survive outside the oxygen atmosphere of Earth. Does that mean we're not viable?

there can only be one final decision & that belongs to the post born female who has a life history already in place.

A fetus has a life history.

I'm actually not against a woman having the right of choice over her body. While I don't think that right should be taken away from them, I think it's also important to remember that a fetus is a life after all.

the BBB & doge cuts should fit right in here...

One of these cuts was intended to stop federal spending on Planned Parenthood. It has been blocked temporarily for now but one of the reasons behind the proposed cut was to preserve the sanctity of life. Or at least, stop the federal subsidization of abortion which is not, in most cases, a health issue.

 

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That might mean something if biology never intended fetuses to grow into babies. But they always do unless the mother miscarries or dies.

when that pregnancy wasn't intended in the first place - then your point is moot. nature doesn't dictate destiny.

Therefore, what the Supreme Court considers not "viable" is just a step in the life stage of a child with the predictable outcome that it will be born and it will be human.

& will be forced.

In other words, since the fetus will progress to a born child at some point,

if forced.

it was viable as a human life at conception.

if forced.

All you're doing is giving me more opinion.

nope. (R)s vote against every opportunity for a wanted child or forced birth to thrive.

food, clothing, education, housing, medical care. it is evidenced by the latest BuhBuhBuh bill.

A human cannot survive outside the oxygen atmosphere of Earth. Does that mean we're not viable?

yes we can ... but we need artificial means to do it.

A fetus has a life history.

when i say 'life' i mean experience ... memories ... touching other post born lives with experiences...

I'm actually not against a woman having the right of choice over her body. While I don't think that right should be taken away from them, I think it's also important to remember that a fetus is a life after all.

never said otherwise. it is life ... it's human DNA... but is not a functioning human baby until it is a viable human baby.

One of these cuts was intended to stop federal spending on Planned Parenthood. It has been blocked temporarily for now but one of the reasons behind the proposed cut was to preserve the sanctity of life. Or at least, stop the federal subsidization of abortion which is not, in most cases, a health issue.

since the days of carter after the hyde act was enacted, 0 fed tax dollars go to providing abortion.

 

[hadit]

The supreme court are trump vassals.

Says no one.

The new prez needs to employ more justices to nullify the power of these nut cases.

TRUMP! is the new president. Are you saying he needs to add more justices to eliminate the court's independence?

 

[hadit]

MAGAS hate teachers but now want them to be Rambo.

No one hates teachers. Maybe you're imagining things again.

I, OTOH, want teachers who are willing to get training to have something more than an eraser to throw at a mentally ill teenager standing in the doorway with a gun. You know, like a tazer. It would seem that others want the teacher to just get shot along with the kids.

 

[dudmuck]

Mobilize the National Guard??????????????????


FASCIST!

 

[Hafar1014]

No one said anything about context in relation to the shooting. Context was brought up in response to your "We won a victory" citation wherein you accuse the quoted individual as saying that the shooting of children was a victory. Now you're conflating the issue of context even more to encompass all views of the "MAGA MAGGOTS" toward the shooting.

What you're doing here is disingenuous.

Auto deaths are the main cause not guns

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

when that pregnancy wasn't intended in the first place - then your point is moot. nature doesn't dictate destiny.

Well that's a dumb thing to say. Our actions dictate our destiny so snuffing out a life is justified even though our actions resulted in an unwanted pregnancy in the first place. I'm not entirely sure but I believe that's called circular reasoning.

& will be forced.



if forced.




if forced.

You can't force the biological process of developing a human, it just happens. In any case, I'm not discussing abortion rights, I'm addressing the pro-choice idea that a fetus is not a life or human.

nope. (R)s vote against every opportunity for a wanted child or forced birth to thrive.

food, clothing, education, housing, medical care. it is evidenced by the latest BuhBuhBuh bill.

Judging by the things you've said so far, I'm calling conflation and exaggeration here. But, putting that aside for the moment, Democrats almost never consider personal responsibility and accountability for choices made. Bad choices are what results in unwanted pregnancies, the children of which some mothers can ill afford in the first place. So why are so many not more careful? Is this even a question Democrats bother to ask?

yes we can ... but we need artificial means to do it.

Ever heard of preemies? A child born premature can be kept alive outside the mother's womb artificially long before the point at which some consider it to not be "viable".

when i say 'life' i mean experience ... memories ... touching other post born lives with experiences...

When I say "life", I mean life. The ability to snuff out a life before it can accumulate experiences and touch others (which it will if allowed to be born) is not justification for aborting it just because it hasn't yet. That's like telling a child he/she can never have sex because they've never had sex.

never said otherwise. it is life ... it's human DNA... but is not a functioning human baby until it is a viable human baby.

What is considered "viable" is completely arbitrary.

since the days of carter after the hyde act was enacted, 0 fed tax dollars go to providing abortion.

And yet, Planned Parenthood receives Federal money and they provide abortions. Everyone knows this.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Auto deaths are the main cause not guns

That's true and I've pointed that out before myself. But they always rationalize it by saying we need motor vehicles. Which means it's not deaths that bother them, it's the way they are killed.

 

[Nostra]

 

[citygator]

Mobilize the National Guard??????????????????


FASCIST!

I’m told it’s ok to stop crime. Let’s get the army in schools.

 

[citygator]

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No. We blame them for soldiers in cities and lying about crime and pardoning 2500 criminal insurrectionists.

 

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Well that's a dumb thing to say. Our actions dictate our destiny so snuffing out a life is justified even though our actions resulted in an unwanted pregnancy in the first place. I'm not entirely sure but I believe that's called circular reasoning.


You can't force the biological process of developing a human, it just happens. In any case, I'm not discussing abortion rights, I'm addressing the pro-choice idea that a fetus is not a life or human.


Judging by the things you've said so far, I'm calling conflation and exaggeration here. But, putting that aside for the moment, Democrats almost never consider personal responsibility and accountability for choices made. Bad choices are what results in unwanted pregnancies, the children of which some mothers can ill afford in the first place. So why are so many not more careful? Is this even a question Democrats bother to ask?


Ever heard of preemies? A child born premature can be kept alive outside the mother's womb artificially long before the point at which some consider it to not be "viable".


When I say "life", I mean life. The ability to snuff out a life before it can accumulate experiences and touch others (which it will if allowed to be born) is not justification for aborting it just because it hasn't yet. That's like telling a child he/she can never have sex because they've never had sex.

What is considered "viable" is completely arbitrary.

And yet, Planned Parenthood receives Federal money and they provide abortions. Everyone knows this.

there has to be a final decision - & that needs to be the person who has had bodily autonomy first.

want more emotion?

lol ...

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

there has to be a final decision - & that needs to be the person who has had bodily autonomy first.

want more emotion?

lol ...

I've already told you I'm not arguing for taking away that right. What is the point of this?

 

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I've already told you I'm not arguing for taking away that right. What is the point of this?

you tell me. you wanted yer opinion known re: human 'life' ... i said it was human DNA. no emotions are involved in any statement or meme i made & you thought otherwise but okey dokey, duly noted.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

you tell me. you wanted yer opinion known re: human 'life' ... i said it was human DNA. no emotions are involved in any statement or meme i made & you thought otherwise but okey dokey, duly noted.

The only time I mentioned emotion was in regards to the meme you posted that stated "Republicans love the fetus but hate the child", or words to that effect.

This is an overblown opinion that is not based on any facts.