What Will Be So Horrible Underneath A (Second) Trump Administration?

[White 6]

Umm they didn't say that.

You mean, he was just trying to be a nasty impotent contrarian, instead of disagreeing on my post?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

protect your right for free speech

Is there something specific that happened that you believe needs to be addressed via the First Amendment, otherwise the U.S. Constitution protects all of our rights to free speech with few exceptions that I'm aware of.

 

[Road Runner]

You mean, he was just trying to be a nasty impotent contrarian, instead of disagreeing on my post?

Whoa hold on there a disagreement is meant to be taken personally as all I said was he didn't say what you claimed he said and I honestly don't even know where you got that he did from.

 

[toobfreak]

I’m about the Republican/Trump plan to allow the Sec of Treasury to unilaterally declare any organization or group terrorists for any or no reason, and yank their tax exempt status. NGO’s and charitable groups who’s messaging the president like can be (ACLU, Pro-Palestinian groups, LGBTQ or immigrant advocates, Planned Parenthood, etc) are effectively muzzled. Free speech, not.

I understand. In other words, you equate shutting down subversive organizations with oppression of free speech.

• I approached the ALCU once about being forced to put a smartmeter on my house allowing the utility to collect information about how and when I used my electricity and the ALCU told me they had better things to worry about as if I were the only one complaining about this.
• Pro-Palestinian groups are basically anti-Israel terrorist hate groups.
• LGBTQ is basically code-word for sexual deviancy and in the future I fear will be used to normalize pedo child molestation rights.
• Immigrant advocates is basically code-word for sponsors for criminal illegal invasion of undocumented people without going through proper, legal channels.
• And Planned Parenthood is basically my tax dollars being used so that sluts can sleep around at will getting knocked up 3 times a year.

All good, solid causes which will make my life and country better!

Funny as I recall a decade ago, Obumma using the IRS and Lois Lerner to target right-leaning organizations to tie up their ability to operate in order to hamper Mitt Romney's campaign to help get Obumma reelected! You must mean THAT KIND of anti-free speech, huh? OH NO! Democrats are now afeared that Trump might act like them!!!

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

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Really? Then explain the following:

Rantz: WA laws now allow teen gender reassignment surgery without parental consent

Washington state now appears to allow minors to undergo life-changing gender reassignment surgery without parental consent.

mynorthwest.com

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It doesn't even seem right, in my opinion, that if you are paying for something (health insurance), that you don't have a right to review everything that is being charged to your account for that health plan. I understand children do have a limited right of privacy but there is a reason that children are not allowed to enter into contracts or give consent when they're underage. It's because they generally have not matured enough to understand all of the implementations of the things they may be agreeing to.

So why the crazy exceptions when all along we've done things a certain way based on sound logic?

 

[Winco]

Well our country can't function correctly without a leader that's for sure.



Secure border hands down.

Show us the DATA supporting your claim.
2017-2021

Your empty phrase means NOTHING without DATA.
Just supply the data.



I believe, that you thought trump completely SHUT DOWN the border and NO Illegals entered into the USA during trumps 1st term.

You would be incorrect.
So support your claim from Term 1 ....... >>>>>>> Go

 

[Road Runner]

I believe, that you thought trump completely SHUT DOWN the border and NO Illegals entered into the USA during trumps 1st term.

Did I say that? No. I said that our border was secure but under which administration did Laken Riley and Jocelyn Nungaray lose their lives?

 

[daveman]

It doesn't even seem right, in my opinion, that if you are paying for something (health insurance), that you don't have a right to review everything that is being charged to your account for that health plan. I understand children do have a limited right of privacy but there is a reason that children are not allowed to enter into contracts or give consent when they're underage. It's because they generally have not matured enough to understand all of the implementations of the things they may be agreeing to.

So why the crazy exceptions when all along we've done things a certain way based on sound logic?

Because Democrats don't operate on logic. They operate solely on emotion.

 

[White 6]

Whoa hold on there a disagreement is meant to be taken personally as all I said was he didn't say what you claimed he said and I honestly don't even know where you got that he did from.

He either supports gender reassignment for children, or he doesn't.
My posts reflect (obviously) that I am against it.
So, if he doesn't support it, why would he take a pejorative stance, even resorting to name-calling?
Are you saying he was just trying to be a nasty impotent contrarian, for his own personal amusement?

 

[Road Runner]

He either supports gender reassignment for children, or he doesn't.
My posts reflect (obviously) that I am against it.
So, if he doesn't support it, why would he take a pejorative stance, even resorting to name-calling?
Are you saying he was just trying to be a nasty impotent contrarian, for his own personal amusement?

All he said that the transgender suicide rate is high. I don't know where you're getting all of this other stuff from.

 

[White 6]

All he said that the transgender suicide rate is high. I don't know where you're getting all of this other stuff from.

No. I said the Transgender suicide rate was godawful. In Post #48, responding to IM2, saying:
"I have seen some awfully shitty parents of every income spectrum. I am just too conservative to buy into the necessity, when balanced against the long term downsides. Are you aware the suicide rate of transgender people is just godawful? Many European Countries that once supported are taking a different look. It should be highly restricted, if not eliminated for minor children, in my opinion. But, that's just me."

I thought you had read it, as you were one of the people that upvoted it with thanks, at the time.

 

[Road Runner]

No. I said the Transgender suicide rate was godawful. In Post #48, responding to IM2, saying:
"I have seen some awfully shitty parents of every income spectrum. I am just too conservative to buy into the necessity, when balanced against the long term downsides. Are you aware the suicide rate of transgender people is just godawful? Many European Countries that once supported are taking a different look. It should be highly restricted, if not eliminated for minor children, in my opinion. But, that's just me."

I thought you had read it, as you of the people that upvoted it with thanks, at the time.

I think that I did like it but he was talking about transgenders committing suicide too.

 

[Zincwarrior]

14% unemployment last time numb nuts.

 

[Winco]

Did I say that? No. I said that our border was secure but under which administration did Laken Riley and Jocelyn Nungaray lose their lives?

Did any Illegals kill Americans during trumps tenure?
You don't know and you don't care.

All I'm ever asking is honesty.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Because Democrats don't operate on logic. They operate solely on emotion.

Do you know if the person who wrote this article is a Republican or Democrat because I fact checked the article and headline is false:

Rantz: WA laws now allow teen gender reassignment surgery without parental consent​

Rantz: WA laws now allow teen gender reassignment surgery without parental consent

Conclusion:

While Washington State laws provide avenues for minors to access certain gender-affirming treatments and protect their confidentiality in specific contexts, the claim that minors can undergo gender reassignment surgery without parental consent is inaccurate. Parental consent remains a prerequisite for such medical procedures unless the minor is legally emancipated.

I left out the details but I can include them if needed.

 

[IM2]

I have seen some awfully shitty parents of every income spectrum. I am just too conservative to buy into the necessity, when balanced against the long term downsides. Are you aware the suicide rate of transgender people is just godawful? Many European Countries that once supported are taking a different look. It should be highly restricted, if not eliminated for minor children, in my opinion. But, that's just me.

I'm not saying I woud agree with this, but what I am saying is that before such an operation is done, that there is a thorough counseling and medical process to include psychological evaluations. There is none of what trump described and there is none of what these trump supporters imagine. Furthermore the suicide rate of kids who are confused about themselves are pretty high also.

 

[Winco]

Do you know if the person who wrote this article is a Republican or Democrat because I fact checked the article and headline is false:

Rantz: WA laws now allow teen gender reassignment surgery without parental consent​

Rantz: WA laws now allow teen gender reassignment surgery without parental consent

Conclusion:

While Washington State laws provide avenues for minors to access certain gender-affirming treatments and protect their confidentiality in specific contexts, the claim that minors can undergo gender reassignment surgery without parental consent is inaccurate. Parental consent remains a prerequisite for such medical procedures unless the minor is legally emancipated.

I left out the details but I can include them if needed.

Are you asking about the political ideology of Rantz?

 

[IM2]

Send Trump an email demanding your reparations. Be sure to tell him he works for you.

I'm 63 and fairly well off. So your snark about reparations is a show of your mental decline. We are owed that money, and in short time you wil wish you had supported reparations like Republicans once did. Trump does work for me. And he works for you. You made this choice and think you're doing something great, but its going to backfire on you. So celebrate while you can, because you fucked up.

 

[Doc7505]

Did any Illegals kill Americans during trumps tenure?
You don't know and you don't care.

All I'm ever asking is honesty.

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[toobfreak]

Truth Social censors.

This place censors. Does that mean you are anti-free speech?

All of those are private entities, like Truth Social, they can censor whom they please. What Biden’s task force did is no different than what other presidents have done. They can request but not force. Unlike Trump who actively threatened them with retaliation.

Biden is not a private entity, I know of no other president who suppressed bad news about himself. And yes, when the WH calls up a business and makes a request, they kinda tend to take that seriously, like the time when James Rosen from Fox News was working on a story about Obumma and Obumma sent the DOJ after him and basically ruined his life, career and almost put him in jail. So yeah, when the WH speaks, people listen.

Fox News reporter secretly monitored by Obama administration: court documents

Agents monitored James Rosen's movements in and out of the State Department, searched his personal emails and cell phone records

www.cbsnews.com

Obama DOJ formally accuses journalist in leak case of committing crimes | Glenn Greenwald

Glenn Greenwald Yet another serious escalation of the Obama administration's attacks on press freedoms emerges

www.theguardian.com

Why The Obama Administration Wants This Journalist In Jail

James Risen is public enemy No. 1.

www.businessinsider.com

Those companies are private entities they make their own policies, not Biden.

Biden does not care about the law. Remember, he is the guy who gave the finger to the SC everytime they ruled against him! Democrats even threatened justices for making law they did not support!

What has Trump banned and censored on Truth Social? How about Musk on X?

Oddly, I have never heard anyone complain about being censored on TS or X; they complain about there being TOO MUCH free speech letting conservatives air their views! Every democrat leaving those platforms gave that as their reason, not censorship.

Why do you only care if you view it as Biden’s doing?

Because Biden has massively, famously done that for four years.

Trump has repeatedly threatened the media and social media platforms with retaliation if he was elected, what about that?

I've never heard Trump say that during his time in office. If he is saying that now, it is only after years of being censored by the MSM, deplatformed by the media, and lied about by the media, all to keep him from office, so what do you expect him to do, say thank you?! The media has attacked Trump more than any other person in history. Jeffrey Dahmer and Al Capone gets a better treatment by the press than Trump has.

In fairness to Harris, she was given only few months to prepare a campaign, craft a message and sell herself. Compare that to Trump. Biden should never have put himself in tbe running for a second term.

Well, Biden should not have been forced to resign just over a bad debate. Are democrats going to keep switching candidates now everytime one of them polls badly until they find a way of winning an election? And Harris should not have spent the last two years telling us Joe was right as rain when the guy is clearly not firing on all cylinders. Had they removed Joe using the 25th a year ago, Harris would have had all the time. Not to mention the fact that her campaign (and she) just plain SUCKED. She told people in her crowd to leave and go to Trump's rally down the street then spent a billion dollars on Hollywood Entertainers.

But…it does remind me of something else, and that is the importance of protecting free media and journalists.

What needs protected is INTEGRITY in journalism to report the truth, not act as a sponsor to advance one party with lies and spin. They are supposed to be watchdogs of government, not lapdogs.

You can’t have free speech without a free and independent media to protect it and hold the government accountable.

That is the problem. The media is not free, they are not responsible. They are not independent. They never hold democrats accountable because they are an extension of the democrat party. They lie, suppress and maneuver with impunity. That is propaganda, not free press.