What Will Be So Horrible Underneath A (Second) Trump Administration?

[Coyote]

I understand. In other words, you equate shutting down subversive organizations with oppression of free speech.

Right there…what you are proposing is very dangerous, and you can’t see it?

Who defines “subversive”? Is it any ideology you disagree with? Is it messaging you don’t happen to like? Is supporting an ethnic/religious/gender group you don’t like?

In fact…if you don’t like it it is “subversive”? And that isn’t shutting down free speech?

• I approached the ALCU once about being forced to put a smartmeter on my house allowing the utility to collect information about how and when I used my electricity and the ALCU told me they had better things to worry about as if I were the only one complaining about this.

So that makes them subversive?

• Pro-Palestinian groups are basically anti-Israel terrorist hate groups.

In your opinion. Some of us just support their right to exist and to have autonomy. But, you don’t like message so stifle it.

How about anti immigrant groups…if I feel they are basically immigrant hate groups, shouldn’t they be shut down and shut up?

• LGBTQ is basically code-word for sexual deviancy and in the future I fear will be used to normalize pedo child molestation rights.

That is an age old bit of fear mongering that has never materialized. So…you don’t like them. Call them terrorist affiliates and remove their tax exempt status if they don’t shut up. Nice.

• Immigrant advocates is basically code-word for sponsors for criminal illegal invasion of undocumented people without going through proper, legal channels.

Immigrant advocates cover a wide range of legal activities: providing resources such as translators and legal help, medical attention, water in tbe deserts so fewer die because they are going to cross anyway…so, you you don’t like them. Call them terrorist affiliates and remove their tax exempt status if they don’t shut up.

• And Planned Parenthood is basically my tax dollars being used so that sluts can sleep around at will getting knocked up 3 times a year.

You don’t know much about PlannedParenthood then, but that is neither there nor hete. Again…it is I don’t like them so call them terrorist affiliates and remove their tax exempt status if they don’t shut up.

All good, solid causes which will make my life and country better!

For you, maybe not. For others, maybe yes.

Funny as I recall a decade ago, Obumma using the IRS and Lois Lerner to target right-leaning organizations to tie up their ability to operate in order to hamper Mitt Romney's campaign to help get Obumma reelected! You must mean THAT KIND of anti-free speech, huh? OH NO! Democrats are now afeared that Trump might act like them!!!

Funny that. The IG investigation highlighted some serious problems, where low level employees were selectively targeting certain words for flagging. It also found no evidence of involvement by Obama, this report was public, and measures were taken to address this. It was a big deal. So it totally boggles my mind that you would support targeting groups in this way.

Here is another funny. How about the Cheeto in Chief? Remember when he tried to get the IRS to go after his enemies? Oh wait…that is different right? Republicans are allowed to do this?

So why do you support the government targeting free speech in this way?

 

[IM2]

So if a child decides she wants to smoke crack because she wants to you are good with that.

Noce try, but of a child decides they want to smoke crack, they can smoke it outside of the house without you knowing it. They can't really do that for gender reassignment, now can they.

Idiot!

 

[IM2]

Right there…what you are proposing is very dangerous, and you can’t see it?

Who defines “subversive”? Is it any ideology you disagree with? Is it messaging you don’t happen to like? Is supporting an ethnic/religious/gender group you don’t like?

In fact…if you don’t like it it is “subversive”? And that isn’t shutting down free speech?



So that makes them subversive?





In your opinion. Some of us just support their right to exist and to have autonomy. But, you don’t like message so stifle it.

How about anti immigrant groups…if I feel they are basically immigrant hate groups, shouldn’t they be shut down and shut up?


That is an age old bit of fear mongering that has never materialized. So…you don’t like them. Call them terrorist affiliates and remove their tax exempt status if they don’t shut up. Nice.




Immigrant advocates cover a wide range of legal activities: providing resources such as translators and legal help, medical attention, water in tbe deserts so fewer die because they are going to cross anyway…so, you you don’t like them. Call them terrorist affiliates and remove their tax exempt status if they don’t shut up.


You don’t know much about PlannedParenthood then, but that is neither there nor hete. Again…it is I don’t like them so call them terrorist affiliates and remove their tax exempt status if they don’t shut up.





For you, maybe not. For others, maybe yes.


Funny that. The IG investigation highlighted some serious problems, where low level employees were selectively targeting certain words for flagging. It also found no evidence of involvement by Obama, this report was public, and measures were taken to address this. It was a big deal. So it totally boggles my mind that you would support targeting groups in this way.

Here is another funny. How about the Cheeto in Chief? Remember when he tried to get the IRS to go after his enemies? Oh wait…that is different right? Republicans are allowed to do this?

So why do you support the government targeting free speech in this way?

These guys aren't too bright Coyote. Whatever trump tells them is bad, they think it's bad.

 

[White 6]

I think that I did like it but he was talking about transgenders committing suicide too.

Then, I am certain, I have no idea, why he did not like the post and responded like on that manner. Contrarian, asshole, is about the only option left.

I do hope you are correct, and trump will influence for change to reduce or eliminate childhood sexual reassignment.

 

[IM2]

Break it down for us IM2

List each nominee and the qualifications he/she doesn’t meet.

Watch this scumbag run away from this……

Run from what? The cabiinet is full of unqualified people. And I'm not going to list them because your punk ass doesn't agree. So fuck you.

 

[Road Runner]

Did any Illegals kill Americans during trumps tenure?
You don't know and you don't care.

All I'm ever asking is honesty.

If it did happen it wasn't to my knowledge now why can't you answer my question? Whose fault administration were Laken Riley and Jocelyn Nungaray murdered underneath?

Noce try, but of a child decides they want to smoke crack, they can smoke it outside of the house without you knowing it. They can't really do that for gender reassignment, now can they.

Idiot!

That's the weakest argument that I've ever seen on here and that's saying a lot.

 

[IM2]

Then, I am certain, I have no idea, why he did not like the post and responded like on that manner. Contrarian, asshole, is about the only option left.

I do hope you are correct, and trump will influence for change to reduce or eliminate childhood sexual reassignment.

What trump needs to do is get rid of white racism. Childhood sexual reassignment happens to less than 1 tenth of 1 percent of the population. 25-30 percent of the country practices racism.

 

[Winco]

If it did happen it wasn't to my knowledge now why can't you answer my question? Whose fault administration were Laken Riley and Jocelyn Nungaray murdered underneath?

We know that answer.
It was during the Biden Administration.
You happy I answered?

Now, who was killed by Illegals during the trump administration.
I would expect the SAME outrage, but I know that won't happen.

So, either say:

1). No Illegals killed Americans during the trump administration.
2). I simply don't know, and I refuse to do the research.
3). When you tell me the FACTS, I will deny it and cast blame upon someone else, like (D) Governors, or (D) Mayors, or anyone but trump.
4). I know you are just trying to be fair, and I understand you despise ALL politicians.
5). Other, but must have explanation.

 

[IM2]

If it did happen it wasn't to my knowledge now why can't you answer my question? Whose fault administration were Laken Riley and Jocelyn Nungaray murdered underneath?



That's the weakest argument that I've ever seen on here and that's saying a lot.

You aren't very intelligent and your anti trans obsession blinds you to reality. You can't even compare the two things. A parent can oppose his/her child smoking crack, but that child can get crack without their parents knowing it. That is a fucking fact. That cannot be done for gender reassignment. That is also a fact.

 

[White 6]

What trump needs to do is get rid of white racism. Childhood sexual reassignment happens to less than 1 tenth of 1 percent of the population. 25-30 percent of the country practices racism.

Where did you get such sudden faith in his abilities or intent, thinking he could or would eliminate racism, white, black, Asian, Hispanic or other, by anybody? You cannot push for legislation that would eliminate racism. On the other hand, Republican are very big on legislating what people can and cannot do with their bodies.

 

[IM2]

We don't allow minors to drink, smoke, drive, enter into legal contracts, vote, etc.

But you think we should allow them permanently life-altering surgeries because they say so.

That's fucked up, dude.

Thats not how it happens dumb ass. And the surgery is not permanent.

 

[toobfreak]

Right there…what you are proposing is very dangerous, and you can’t see it?
Who defines “subversive”?

I asked that when Biden proposed his ministry of Disinformation.

Is it any ideology you disagree with? Is it messaging you don’t happen to like? Is supporting an ethnic/religious/gender group you don’t like?
In fact…if you don’t like it it is “subversive”? And that isn’t shutting down free speech?

No, I define subversive as working against the good of the people. Anti-American. The alternative is to allow everything, including people working clearly against the country. But if you are for free speech and for permitting groups to operate even if you don't like them, then how do you not see an inherent conflict with how the people of J6 are being treated? I'm not talking about the obvious crazies, but even people there just standing around doing nothing? They have been held for years without bail, without due process, without healthcare, without access to legal help, family, beaten, mistreated, and oppressed. Many were held for years without charges then only charged with misdemeanors. Some were not even AT the capitol that day!!! Where is your hypocrisy meter?!

So why do you support the government targeting free speech in this way?

I support no general thing. Show me the specific organization, give me the specific details, then I will tell you how I feel about their operation. IMO, what Trump opposes, is the vast underground network created by democrats vis a vis the democrats in government that is used to steer the outcomes of elections, education and media (information), as thoroughly detailed in Time Magazine. Look, it is very clear to all that the agenda of the democrat party has become a subversive outfit operating off an anti-American, globalist agenda with a lot of foreign money behind it. That is why Trump won bigly--- nothing democrats are behind now is good for THIS country or the majority here, this country has turned to shit with democrats in power, so excuse me if I don't get all bothered if Trump puts the kibosh to it putting America First.

 

[IM2]

Honestly I don't find it any different than a parent allowing their underage children to smoke weed. Just because they get permission to do it does not mean that it's right.

This isn't even close to the same thinig.

 

[IM2]

Where did you get such sudden faith in his abilities or intent, thinking he could or would eliminate racism, white, black, Asian, Hispanic or other, by anybody? You cannot push for legislation that would eliminate racism. On the other hand, Republican are very big on legislating what people can and cannot do with their bodies.

I don't have faith in any man. And I do get rather weary of whites cllaing the non white reaction to the racism we get from whites racism. Legislation created the racism here, so it can end it.

 

[IM2]

I asked that when Biden proposed his ministry of Disinformation.

What ministry of disinformation.

No, I define subversive as working against the good of the people. Anti-American. The alternative is to allow everything, including people working clearly against the country. But if you are for free speech and for permitting groups to operate even if you don't like them, then how do you not see an inherent conflict with how the people of J6 are being treated? I'm not talking about the obvious crazies, but even people there just standing around doing nothing? They have been held for years without bail, without due process, without healthcare, without access to legal help, family, beaten, mistreated, and oppressed. Many were held for years without charges then only charged with misdemeanors. Some were not even AT the capitol that day!!! Where is your hypocrisy meter?!

Then trump is a subversive. There is no conflict about the 1-6 people. They had no business busting through the barricades, and they had no business being in the capital. Furthermore all that was done because of a lie.

 

[Coyote]

This place censors. Does that mean you are anti-free speech?

I think you missed my point. You complained about private platforms censoring Trump. I pointed out Trump’s Truth Social censors as well. Private entities can do this. It is their property.

Biden is not a private entity, I know of no other president who suppressed bad news about himself.

Biden hasn’t done so. He has many failings but that is not one of them.

And yes, when the WH calls up a business and makes a request, they kinda tend to take that seriously, like the time when James Rosen from Fox News was working on a story about Obumma and Obumma sent the DOJ after him and basically ruined his life, career and almost put him in jail. So yeah, when the WH speaks, people listen.

A couple of things. You are essentially accusing others of the very things Trump has done and promises to do more of so it is hard to take it seriously. In terms of censoring disinformation, Biden is not the only administration that has approached a private entity and request that they refrain from publishing something: Bush, Obama and Trump administrations have all done so. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the administration and find that was undue censoring or coercion. If you still have a problem with it and only focus on Biden, then BDS is tbe only logical conclusion.

But you make one point I really agree with: political attempts to force journalists to reveal their sources (I think that was in one of your videos?). But instead of looking at it with open eyes you make it partisan. Every administration - Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden has been guilty of trying to limit journalistic freedom, specifically by revealing sources. This is very dangerous and affects everyone whether it is leftwing or rightwing media, msm or citizen journalists. If you are going to blame Obama need to include Bush, Trump and Biden…but will you?

There is a bill that to address this that the House passed, that is now languishing in the Senate because Trump told them not to pass it. Why?

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Biden does not care about the law. Remember, he is the guy who gave the finger to the SC everytime they ruled against him! Democrats even threatened justices for making law they did not support!

No different than the Republicans. Trump has trashed the Supreme Court multiple times.

Oddly, I have never heard anyone complain about being censored on TS or X; they complain about there being TOO MUCH free speech letting conservatives air their views! Every democrat leaving those platforms gave that as their reason, not censorship.

People have been banned for saying things Musk did not personally like (such as criticizing Musk) or one guy who posted a copy of a Trump campaign dossier, or a person who interviewed someone who had hacked a conservative commentator’s social media account, a journalist who had written an investigative report on Tesla, another journalist who was working on a story about Musk, nine other journalists who had written negative stories on Musk…and so on.

BUT it is Musk’s property and Musk’s rules. Just don’t pretend there isn’t censorship.

What needs protected is INTEGRITY in journalism to report the truth, not act as a sponsor to advance one party with lies and spin. They are supposed to be watchdogs of government, not lapdogs.

Agree. Now WHO gets to define what “integrity” is? Who decides whether one is acting as a “sponsor to advance one party’s lies and spin”? Don’t you think this is dangerous territory when you dealing with very subjective criteria?

That is the problem. The media is not free, they are not responsible. They are not independent. They never hold democrats accountable because they are an extension of the democrat party. They lie, suppress and maneuver with impunity. That is propaganda, not free press.

And the left says the same things about right. So what?

 

[White 6]

I don't have faith in any man. And I do get rather weary of whites cllaing the non white reaction to the racism we get from whites racism. Legislation created the racism here, so it can end it.

That "Legislation created the racism here, so it can end it." I am uncertain about legislation creating it, but pretty certain, to many its an emotional truth, they feel deeply. Just look at some on here. Legislating emotion is like legislating morality. Every country has tried that since the dawn of country, and mostly without success.

I would not hold my breath, until he legislates away racism, if I were you.

 

[Winco]

I would be far happier if you would just STFU.


Far fewer because illegal immigration was way down with Trump in office.
But then, Trump would have been even MORE successful had the democrats not BLOCKED him at every turn.


Is that your complaint?


Story of your life.


Makes sense.

It's dishonest that you alter my Quote.
Very dishonest of you, you trump bootlicking Cult Member.

 

[IM2]

That "Legislation created the racism here, so it can end it." I am uncertain about legislation creating it, but pretty certain, to many its an emotional truth, they feel deeply. Just look at some on here. Legislating emotion is like legislating morality. Every country has tried that since the dawn of country, and mostly without success.

I would not hold my breath, until he legislates away racism, if I were you.

There is nothing emotional about it. Why don't you go look at some laws and policies. What do you call redlining for example? Dred Scott? Black Codes? Vagrancy laws? Restrictive Covenants? And the FHA manual most certainly codified racism.

 

[berg80]

What Will Be So Horrible Underneath A (Second) Trump Administration?​

Have you seen his cabinet picks?