Zone1 What was Mohammud's Dispute With The Jews Around Him ?
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so? that population was literate and since it was
a community and not just passing thru---there were
written documents. The rapist likely did not get his
paws on EVERYTHING
Well, your hatred and ugly insults don't really make your case. Your vicious attacks on the Episcopalians in your hometown are quite shocking. I went to school in Charleston which had a 300 year old Sephardic community. They were loved and respected by the largely Episcopalian town. Such beautiful girls with dark shiny hair...fair skinned and intelligent.
Read Pat Conroy. He captured the affection and regard of old Charleston.
I'm sorry your experience was so deplorable.
what "ugly insults" ? the question was in reference to the discord between
muhummad and the jews. He did commit a genocide in Yathrib/Medina
and steal that land and the filth in the Koran is attributed to him which is the
basis of shariah shit. What does my experience in the pro-nazi episcopalian
town of my childhood have to with that? Don't feel badly about it---Adolf
loved it
there4eyeM
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It is the noun used in Arabic, yes. In English, all it means is "Allah". God is the generic. The One known to Moses is more than a mere noun.
Let's not fight semantics----we COULD discuss ethos----IMVO (in my vaunted opinion) ---"god" reminds me of the christian and jewish "GOD"---"allah" is
part of a phrase people called muslims use when they chop heads off---
ALLAHUAKBAR. I am not sure of the function in arabic grammar of that
HU.
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It is a great deal more than "semantics". It is immensely propagandistic to claim equivalence in this matter. "Allah" is just another name for someone's deity. It is not the name of the One.
ok----but the semantics discussion does not help. The same can be said
for the phrase "ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS" ---IMVO (in my vaunted opinion)
the claim that Abraham had something to do with islam or even that his
son Ishmael did----is historic revisionism. in fact, ludicrous
they got that libel from the NT ---it worked for Constantine
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An illiterate bandit coming to "impress" Jews to follow him,
by telling the most ridiculous rumors about their history.
He was laughed off.
From then on, the language of Koran turns very defensive,
constantly trying to compensate for the humiliation before infidels.
Till this day they claim,
that Miriam, the sister of Moses, was "virgin mary",
and that Purim was the Pharaoh asking Persians to avenge for the Exodus.
by telling the most ridiculous rumors about their history.
He was laughed off.
From then on, the language of Koran turns very defensive,
constantly trying to compensate for the humiliation before infidels.
Till this day they claim,
that Miriam, the sister of Moses, was "virgin mary",
and that Purim was the Pharaoh asking Persians to avenge for the Exodus.
Back then most Jews didn't live in Palestine. Most actually lived in Egypt and Persia.
Yes---you have brought up the decimated population thing at least 5000 times. By then the Romans had not only murdered
and pillaged and scattered them----the FILTH of genocidal Justinian (canon) Law had already come into effect in "PALESTINA" Egypt and Persia was free of that particular stink for awhile but by the seventh century AD ----Rome was on its way to the Inquisition. The canon laws most oppressive to jews were recapitulated in the Jibril bat cave, watta coincidence!!!!
Long before the birth of Christ... They were in Rome, Persia, Alexandria and Elephantine Island by 500 BC.
Long before Pompey in 63 BC.
right----and when the remnant had to flee----they fled to the already established jewish communities. That's how Brooklyn, NY
came to be. At one time Alexandria and Baghdad were virtually
jewish cities-----much later Cordoba and Barcelona----then, one
after the other came christianity and islam. I wonder how Brooklyn is going to end up. My father grew up in Upper Manhattan---which back in the day harbored lots of jews. As kids we bused in and walked freely even late at night
Nobody wanted to live in Palestine.
nobody lived in palestine?----actually some people lived
there. It is true that Mark Twain described the land as desolate--
that was second half of 19th century but in the latter part of the
18th century, Napoleon was so impressed with the Jewish
population of Jerusalem that he planned to establish it as a
"jewish state"-----poor little guy screwed up. The present
ZIONIST movement began at the beginning of the 1800s
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please remember that there are thousands of Islamic Hadith and even some Hadith are considered as weak and even some Hadith are considered as false - and as a perversion by the majority of the Muslim Community
- yet Muslims do not make any effort to destroy or prohibit these false " Hadith " but Muslims Majority Countries completely outlaw - ban and prohibit and criminalize the Bible
but false Hadith are not restricted -
does this not show that for Muslim majority it is not really about removing untruthfulness or false writings about prophets and Allah - but it is rather just an attempt to destroy the Bible -
and the Muslims prove this by the fact that they they permit and allow fake / false Hadith to be saved and exist and even be duplicated throughout the Muslim Countries and even spread to the world -
in fact Muslims are the ones making duplications of False Hadith and Weak Hadith with untruthful and doubtful saying and claims - and promoting them on the internet
but when a Bible is found they destroy it and punish the person severely, even giving a death sentence for having a fake Gospel
- but for the Fake Hadith - nothing is said or done.
Is this the nature of honesty - ? it just seems that Muslims duplicate these fake and weak Hadith as a test or shew of loyalty to destroying the Bible -
the Fake and untruthful Hadith sayings of Mohammud and Allah are ok - and its ok to make copies and spread false / fake Hadith of weakness , doubt and even untruthfulness and contradiction
if they are produced by Muslim followers
but Christian with fake books are to be extinguished and exterminated at all cost in every way .. this is so dishonest and obvious.
please remember that there are thousands of Islamic Hadith and even some Hadith are considered as weak and even some Hadith are considered as false - and as a perversion by the majority of the Muslim Community
- yet Muslims do not make any effort to destroy or prohibit these false " Hadith " but Muslims Majority Countries completely outlaw - ban and prohibit and criminalize the Bible
but false Hadith are not restricted -
does this not show that for Muslim majority it is not really about removing untruthfulness or false writings about prophets and Allah - but it is rather just an attempt to destroy the Bible -
and the Muslims prove this by the fact that they they permit and allow fake / false Hadith to be saved and exist and even be duplicated throughout the Muslim Countries and even spread to the world -
in fact Muslims are the ones making duplications of False Hadith and Weak Hadith with untruthful and doubtful saying and claims - and promoting them on the internet
but when a Bible is found they destroy it and punish the person severely, even giving a death sentence for having a fake Gospel
- but for the Fake Hadith - nothing is said or done.
Is this the nature of honesty - ? it just seems that Muslims duplicate these fake and weak Hadith as a test or shew of loyalty to destroying the Bible -
the Fake and untruthful Hadith sayings of Mohammud and Allah are ok - and its ok to make copies and spread false / fake Hadith of weakness , doubt and even untruthfulness and contradiction
if they are produced by Muslim followers
but Christian with fake books are to be extinguished and exterminated at all cost in every way .. this is so dishonest and obvious.
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Anyone even remotely objective understands that all the ancient religions are the result of partial understanding of realities at best. To believe in a consciousness beyond our powers of comprehension is one thing, to insist that we adhere today to hallucinatory stories from the dim past is worse than absurd. It poisons us and may lead to our demise.
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I agree that the Old Testament does prophecy of something or of an event or special gift coming
that would bring salvation and honor to the world,
however, the New Testament says that this was completely hidden since from the beginning of the world and had been kept secret and hidden from them,
since the very beginning...
his coming was not something the Jewish people were waiting for nor expected and the details of Jesus, WHO JESUS IS AND HIS EXISTENCE and his coming
is not mentioned in the Old Testament.
we can look to the New Testament and see how well it was hidden and how well it was kept secret while still mentioning the event that came called Jesus
but the existence and coming of Jesus was hidden and kept secret and not a part of Old Testament revelation according to the New Testament.
Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began.
can we agree that the Old Testament mentions a mystery and not Jesus himself.
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