What the hell happened Truthers?

[daws101]

the seismic signature of each tower wtc 1 and 2, (based on their tonnage, etc.), should have been around 3.8. Instead they measured 2.3 and 2.5, and the seismic signature of wtc & was 0.6 -- practically non-existant.



Dr. Judy wood, "where did the towers go?" see chapter 6 (entire chapter) -- seismic impact.

judy woood hahahahahahahajudy wood hahahahahaha...(cue rim shot) she's here all week ...try the fish...hhahahahahahaha.

 

[daws101]

come on truthers.....show your stuff

september 11 is your big day. A chance to show the country how big the truther movement is and how outraged america is about this"inside job"

i want to see every one of you out there, protesting this outrage showing how relevant a cause you have

we will be watching

by "we" you must mean trolls of the usmb ?

BY WE... you must mean all the twooferheros..!

 

[daws101]

Come on truthers.....show your stuff

September 11 is your big day. A chance to show the country how big the truther movement is and how outraged America is about this"Inside Job"

I want to see every one of you out there, protesting this outrage showing how relevant a cause you have

We will be watching

Actually I still want to see a viable demolition plan that would replicate what happened to WTC 7, as well as the time and expertise level needed to implment it, as well as any other work needed to implement it.

I would too.. but the twoofers either lack the brains or resources to draw up said plan.

 

[daws101]

Everyone remember Hurricane Erin, right outside NYC the morning of 9/11? No?

Starting at bottom page 395, WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? by Dr. Judy Wood. (Each statement in the following has citations I have left out for brevity, but which can be accessed in the actual textbook):



"Hurricane Erin ['HE'] was born on September 1, 2001, the fifth Atlantic storm of the 2001 season to be given a name and the first to reach hurricane strength. Merging with another storm system on September 17, Erin was also the longest-lived Atlantic storm of the 2001 season. Before that merger, however, starting back on September 7, Erin began a four-day march on a path taking her directly toward New York City. (See figure 420).

"By September 10, HE had become a Category 3 hurricane with wind speeds of 120 mph just as it passed Bermuda along its STRAIGHT [emphasis mine] path toward New York City. And yet we heard nothing about this storm. The World Trade Center Towers were built to withstand wind loads of up to 140 mph (225 km/hr.), the equivalent force of a Category 4 Hurricane AND ONLY 20 MPH MORE THAN THE WIND SPEED OF HE. The danger to tall buildings aside, even if HE changed course and failed to make landfall, the threat of flooding from storm surges was very real. Hurricane Ike (2008) made landfall in Texas as a Category 2 hurricane and had peak storm surge values of 15-20 feet. And yet, once again, we heard NOTHING about this storm.

"People remember 9/11 as geing one of the clearest days they had ever seen along the East Coast. The satellite that took the images shown in Figures 411 and 412 had a clear view of New York City and also had a clear view of HE. The outer bands of the storm reached over Cape Cod and the end of Long Island.

"Not even I knew there was a hurricane just outside of NYC on 9/11/01 until I discovered the fact while looking for weather-satellite images to study the rising dust plume from the destroyed WTC towers.

"In fact, as I was to discover, Erin came closest to NYC and also reached it's largest size on 9/11 itself. Interestingly, the National Hurricane Center projected Erin to be of stronger force than it was to project in the case of Katrina four years later. How curious it is, then, that this hurricane was not mentioned or shown by graphics on morning weather reports. Were meteorologists absolutely certain that this hurricane would make a sharp right-hand turn away from New York and head back out to sea before there was a major threat of storm surges?

"No, at least not according to the National Weather Service. Approximately 500 miles in diameter, HE was approximately the same size as the later Katrina, and yet the public was not widely alerted to it, none of the major morning news shows mentioning the storm.

"Still, Erin was the subject of extended study. The forecast was for Erin to be stronger than Katrina was later to be. In fact, HE actually did have more cyclonic energy than Hurricane Katrina, as measured by each storm's Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE).

"The storm was a tropical depression on the first of September, reached minimum pressure late on September 9 and maximum speed on September 10, and then it reached its maximum diameter on September 11. On the morning of September 11, the storm stopped at its closest approach to NYC, then in the afternoon it veered dramatically to the east."

 

[SFC Ollie]

Come on truthers.....show your stuff

September 11 is your big day. A chance to show the country how big the truther movement is and how outraged America is about this"Inside Job"

I want to see every one of you out there, protesting this outrage showing how relevant a cause you have

We will be watching

Actually I still want to see a viable demolition plan that would replicate what happened to WTC 7, as well as the time and expertise level needed to implment it, as well as any other work needed to implement it.

I would too.. but the twoofers either lack the brains or resources to draw up said plan.

Their 1400+ architects and engineers are too busy for such nonsense. Why should they spend their time proving they are right?

 

[daws101]

Thank you for your service to our country. My daughter remains on active duty (over 11 years) in the Air Force, and I cannot be more proud of her.

However, I think most proponents of the Trivium logic agree that ad hominem attacks RARELY can be relied upon for useful knowledge, and more likely are launched with the intention to distract and encourage others, "Look away, folks, nothing to see here."

I expected one of our proud servicemen to AT LEAST back up an Ad hominem attack on Dr. Wood with some sort of "evidence." I expected to see something discounting her 500 page volume of FORENSIC ANALYSIS of the ENTIRE WTC phenomena observed and documented OR (to more correctly address the Ad hominem presumption regarding her mental status, some PROOF of legitimate psychiatric disability).

Your links only accurately (as much as I could see) reported regarding Dr. Wood's research and Qui Tam case.

But nothing you cite backs up the ad hominem. In fact, I have YET to see ANY EVIDENCE POSED BY ANYONE OF ANY KIND (through the media) THAT DISCOUNTS HER FORENSIC REPORTS.

The only reason people use ad hominem attacks against Dr. Wood is THEY CAN'T (or appear unable to) REFUTE HER STATISTICS.

It just freaks everyone out (and well it SHOULD) to realize what her evidence appears to conclude: THAT SOMEONE AT CONSIDERABLE DISTANCE FROM THE TOWERS COULD HAVE CAUSED THIS TO HAPPEN. It didn't require someone with ACCESS to the BUILDINGS WHATSOEVER to create the effects that turned the buildings almost entirely to dust (and caused weird other effects to occur, like 1400 cars destroyed by strangely "cold fires" several BLOCKS from the buildings themselves).

SO you are telling me that you believe that we have an energy weapon that can bring down skyscrapers from hundreds of miles away? I know that the military has recently released our first heat ray weapon. But it won't even destroy an ant hill at 100 meters. Sorry but this lady has no proof that any such SCI-Fi weapon exists.

And they would have us believe that we used it one time, and never again. If it worked so flawlessly on 9/11, why wasn't it used to take out Saddam, Osama & Qadaffy? Imagine the lives and money it would have saved.

But alas, it was only developed to frame Al-Queda, then put back into the box and stored away.

we did use it again, you saw what it did to that giant diseptacon on the pyramid in transformers 2...

 

[daws101]

Actually I still want to see a viable demolition plan that would replicate what happened to WTC 7, as well as the time and expertise level needed to implment it, as well as any other work needed to implement it.

I would too.. but the twoofers either lack the brains or resources to draw up said plan.

Their 1400+ architects and engineers are too busy for such nonsense. Why should they spend their time proving they are right?

you'd think that since most of them are unemployed right now ,they'd have plenty of spare time to work on it!

 

[Disenchanted61]

Its been ten years and you have yet to provide a single piece of evidence supporting your ridiculous theories

Where is that groundswell of support you have been promising for ten years? There are actually more Birthers than there are Truthers right now

What happened to your movement?

POST OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!

" Conspiracy theory " is often misused to discredit the fact's being
presented on a given event, or plans for " social engineering." I always advise other's to research data and/or event's that leed up the current socio-economic condition's of interest to them, or keep their opinion's to themselve's.

 

[daws101]

Its been ten years and you have yet to provide a single piece of evidence supporting your ridiculous theories

Where is that groundswell of support you have been promising for ten years? There are actually more Birthers than there are Truthers right now

What happened to your movement?

POST OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!

" Conspiracy theory " is often misused to discredit the fact's being
presented on a given event, or plans for " social engineering." I always advise other's to research data and/or event's that leed up the current socio-economic condition's of interest to them, or keep their opinion's to themselve's.

isn't that LEAD?
you are (in this case) mistaking or intentionally misrepresenting the word FACT FOR THE WORD MYTH OR the phrase "making shit up!

 

[signelect]

I dont get any of this

 

[eots]

I dont get any of this

these patriots can explain it to you

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[daws101]

I dont get any of this

these patriots can explain it to you

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

that should read: these assholes usurping the word"patriots" would like you to believe a fictional account of the events of 9/11.

 

[Wicked Jester]

I dont get any of this

these patriots can explain it to you

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

After 10 years, all you can come up with is the same tired, worn out BS.

What's next, another demonstration using office supplies and cardboard boxes again, to show how seven fell?

Seriously, do you not understand just how ridiculous you fools make yourselves look?

It's friggin' comical.

 

[Afanasy]

Ten years after 911 and I have yet to hear a theory that makes sense. The official story is a preposterous conspiracy theory that disagrees with portions of the evidence. All other theories I've heard have holes as well. It sure would have been nice if we had done the normal, usual, procedural investigation right after 911. We might have been able to figure it out. Now, we are left not knowing what happened on one of the most significant days in our nation's history.

And if you're going to disagree, let's have more than vitriolic attack please.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Ten years after 911 and I have yet to hear a theory that makes sense. The official story is a preposterous conspiracy theory that disagrees with portions of the evidence. All other theories I've heard have holes as well. It sure would have been nice if we had done the normal, usual, procedural investigation right after 911. We might have been able to figure it out. Now, we are left not knowing what happened on one of the most significant days in our nation's history.

And if you're going to disagree, let's have more than vitriolic attack please.

It's pretty damn obvious what happened. No further investigations are needed, and it's time to let the victims rest in peace. And for the troofer idiots to stop spitting on all those who died, and those who continue to fight an enemy that craves to kill us all.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Ten years after 911 and I have yet to hear a theory that makes sense. The official story is a preposterous conspiracy theory that disagrees with portions of the evidence. All other theories I've heard have holes as well. It sure would have been nice if we had done the normal, usual, procedural investigation right after 911. We might have been able to figure it out. Now, we are left not knowing what happened on one of the most significant days in our nation's history.

And if you're going to disagree, let's have more than vitriolic attack please.

Please expand on the bold sentence and I will be happy to explain the facts to you.

 

[daws101]

Ten years after 911 and I have yet to hear a theory that makes sense. The official story is a preposterous conspiracy theory that disagrees with portions of the evidence. All other theories I've heard have holes as well. It sure would have been nice if we had done the normal, usual, procedural investigation right after 911. We might have been able to figure it out. Now, we are left not knowing what happened on one of the most significant days in our nation's history.

And if you're going to disagree, let's have more than vitriolic attack please.

hey AFANTASY, it's all a fantasy...

 

[daws101]

Ten years after 911 and I have yet to hear a theory that makes sense. The official story is a preposterous conspiracy theory that disagrees with portions of the evidence. All other theories I've heard have holes as well. It sure would have been nice if we had done the normal, usual, procedural investigation right after 911. We might have been able to figure it out. Now, we are left not knowing what happened on one of the most significant days in our nation's history.

And if you're going to disagree, let's have more than vitriolic attack please.

Please expand on the bold sentence and I will be happy to explain the facts to you.

yes please!!

 

[eots]

I dont get any of this

these patriots can explain it to you

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

After 10 years, all you can come up with is the same tired, worn out BS.

What's next, another demonstration using office supplies and cardboard boxes again, to show how seven fell?

Seriously, do you not understand just how ridiculous you fools make yourselves look?

It's friggin' comical.

you offer nothing...you are not even well versed in the official story you blindly claim to support

 

[eots]

I dont get any of this

these patriots can explain it to you

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

that should read: these assholes usurping the word"patriots" would like you to believe a fictional account of the events of 9/11.

so you take issue with the exemplary service of these high level military experts ?