What Say You, Biden Fans?

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And It Melts....

BIG “BOMBSHELL” IS JUST LAME HEARSAY: Whistleblower ‘didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications’ between Trump and Ukraine.

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Not relevent but here is CNN anyway:
"CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar with the case, that the complaint was prompted by concerns over communications between the President and a foreign leader. The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said."

Intel Inspector General suggested whistleblower had concerns about multiple actions - CNNPolitics

So yes, it is now being reported that the wistleblower may not have been directly knowledgeable about the call. If this is true then the complaint is bullshit.

“Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially ‘heavily populated’ call,” he asked. “I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA!” ~ djt
ummmm....

Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader
By Peter Baker
Sept. 22, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump acknowledged on Sunday that he discussed former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. with Ukraine’s president as Democrats ramped up calls for an investigation into whether he improperly pressured a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent.

While Mr. Trump defended his July phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine as perfectly appropriate, he confirmed that Mr. Biden came up during the discussion and that he accused the former vice president of corruption tied to his son Hunter’s business activities in that former Soviet republic.

“The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, with largely corruption, all of the corruption taking place and largely the fact that we don’t want our people like Vice President Biden and his son creating to the corruption already in the Ukraine,” Mr. Trump told reporters before leaving for a trip to Texas and Ohio.
[...]
Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader

trump says he would love that the transcript be released & has the power to do it...

do you think he will? to use his often repeated sidestepping phrase:

'we'll see what happens'

 

[playtime]

the timeline just doesn't fit.... your 'facts' are meaningless. now tell me how donny claiming to be 'the chosen one' on tape was indeed fact & he meant he is the 2nd coming.

see? that's exactly what you are trying to peddle. it just ain't getting any traction.

If you JUST LIE A LITTLE HARDER the fuckup of your press will all go away...

your juvenile bullshit replies doesn't change the fact that the timeline just doesn't match the accusations..................

You are incredibly stupid. Jaw dropping stupid, Kotex.

^^^ your patent reply when you have no real refute.

What would I refute, you said nothing? You never do.

I'm sure you picked up the timeline bullshit from one of the hate sites like CNN or the fucking Nazis at NBC, but you didn't grasp their argument and what you post is simple non sequitur.

The President asked the Ukraine to investigate the corruption of Joe Biden in blackmailing them in 2015 when he held the money of United States Taxpayers hostage in order to thwart the investigation into his corrupt son by having the prosecutor fired.

Kind of like you accused Trump of doing with dottering old Mueller, except that Biden actually did it.

The problem is Kotex, you really are stupid. Look, you know it. You throw shit out because you're a partisan hack, BUT you're too stupid to pull it off. Even deantard is brighter than you.

right leaning & rupert murdoch owned WSJ says you are a basket dweller who wouldn't know or care about the truth as long as your dear leader stays in the whitehouse.
Timeline of Trump-Ukraine-Bidens Story
By Rebecca Ballhaus
Sept. 21, 2019 3:51 pm ET

Here is a timeline of events leading up to President Trump’s call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky:

May 2014: Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma Group, a privately owned Ukrainian gas producer. The company is run by a former government official whom Ukrainian and British authorities would investigate for alleged criminal wrongdoing, including money laundering. The younger Mr. Biden’s move drew criticism given that Ukraine was at the time within his father’s portfolio as vice president.
December 2015: Vice President Biden visited Kiev, where he pressured the country to do a better job of rooting out widespread corruption and called for the “reform” of the office of Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. Mr. Shokin had long been criticized by the U.S. and other countries for not doing enough to address corruption in Ukraine.

March 29, 2016: Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Mr. Shokin. By the time he left office, Mr. Shokin was no longer pursuing the Burisma investigation.

Jan. 23, 2018: Mr. Biden, speaking at a Council on Foreign Relations event

April 21, 2019: Mr. Zelensky elected as president of Ukraine.

April 25: Mr. Biden launched his presidential campaign.

April 28: Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani tweeted about investigations in Ukraine, charging that the “media blackout of the investigations in Ukraine of alleged Democrat corruption” proves there is a “double standard.”

May 9: The New York Times reported that Rudy Giuliani planned to travel to Kiev to pressure the Ukrainian government to press ahead with investigations into Joe Biden and into possible interference in the 2016 U.S. election. Mr. Giuliani subsequently canceled the trip, which he says Mr. Trump knew about.

May 16: Ukraine’s prosecutor general told Bloomberg that he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden or his son.

June: Mr. Giuliani met in Paris with an official from the Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office to discuss a possible Biden investigation.

July 21: Ukrainians voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Zelensky’s party in parliamentary elections, cementing the political newcomer’s power.

July 25: Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky spoke by phone. The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Mr. Trump urged Mr. Zelensky about eight times to talk to Mr. Giuliani about an investigation into Mr. Biden’s son, according to people familiar with the matter.

August: Mr. Giuliani met with Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Mr. Zelensky, in Madrid. The two also spoke by phone later in the month. Mr. Giuliani described Mr. Yermak as “very receptive” and said the aide told him Mr. Zelensky would “get to the bottom of all this.”

Late August: The Trump administration began reviewing $250 million in foreign aid to Ukraine, meant to help the country ward off Russia.

Aug. 29: Mr. Trump canceled his planned trip to Poland to deal with Hurricane Dorian. He had been scheduled to meet with Mr. Zelensky there. Mr. Yermak later called Mr. Giuliani to ask whether the president’s decision to cancel his trip was related to Mr. Zelensky; Mr. Giuliani says in an interview he assured him it wasn’t.

Sept. 12: The Trump administration released foreign aid to Ukraine.

Sept. 25: Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky are expected to meet in person for the first time at the United Nations General Assembly in New York City.

Timeline of Trump-Ukraine-Bidens Story

 

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And It Melts....

BIG “BOMBSHELL” IS JUST LAME HEARSAY: Whistleblower ‘didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications’ between Trump and Ukraine.

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Not relevent but here is CNN anyway:
"CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar with the case, that the complaint was prompted by concerns over communications between the President and a foreign leader. The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said."

Intel Inspector General suggested whistleblower had concerns about multiple actions - CNNPolitics

So yes, it is now being reported that the wistleblower may not have been directly knowledgeable about the call. If this is true then the complaint is bullshit.

“Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially ‘heavily populated’ call,” he asked. “I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA!” ~ djt
ummmm....

Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader
By Peter Baker
Sept. 22, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump acknowledged on Sunday that he discussed former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. with Ukraine’s president as Democrats ramped up calls for an investigation into whether he improperly pressured a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent.

While Mr. Trump defended his July phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine as perfectly appropriate, he confirmed that Mr. Biden came up during the discussion and that he accused the former vice president of corruption tied to his son Hunter’s business activities in that former Soviet republic.

“The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, with largely corruption, all of the corruption taking place and largely the fact that we don’t want our people like Vice President Biden and his son creating to the corruption already in the Ukraine,” Mr. Trump told reporters before leaving for a trip to Texas and Ohio.
[...]
Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader

trump says he would love that the transcript be released & has the power to do it...

do you think he will? to use his often repeated sidestepping phrase:

'we'll see what happens'

And?

Still nothing really relevant here.

No, he is not going to release the call, that is not how Trump operates and anything he says is suspect as he is unable to tell the truth even when it would have helped him.

Congress will eventually get the transcript though and it will eventually be released. At that point we can make a call on if he should be impeached for it or not.

 

[Zorro!]

And It Melts....

BIG “BOMBSHELL” IS JUST LAME HEARSAY: Whistleblower ‘didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications’ between Trump and Ukraine.

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• Overall, we rate the Washington Examiner Right Biased based on editorial positions that almost exclusively favor the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks.

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Not relevent but here is CNN anyway:
"CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar with the case, that the complaint was prompted by concerns over communications between the President and a foreign leader. The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said."

Intel Inspector General suggested whistleblower had concerns about multiple actions - CNNPolitics

So yes, it is now being reported that the wistleblower may not have been directly knowledgeable about the call. If this is true then the complaint is bullshit.

“Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially ‘heavily populated’ call,” he asked. “I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA!” ~ djt
ummmm....

Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader
By Peter Baker
Sept. 22, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump acknowledged on Sunday that he discussed former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. with Ukraine’s president as Democrats ramped up calls for an investigation into whether he improperly pressured a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent.

While Mr. Trump defended his July phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine as perfectly appropriate, he confirmed that Mr. Biden came up during the discussion and that he accused the former vice president of corruption tied to his son Hunter’s business activities in that former Soviet republic.

“The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, with largely corruption, all of the corruption taking place and largely the fact that we don’t want our people like Vice President Biden and his son creating to the corruption already in the Ukraine,” Mr. Trump told reporters before leaving for a trip to Texas and Ohio.
[...]
Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader

trump says he would love that the transcript be released & has the power to do it...

do you think he will? to use his often repeated sidestepping phrase:

'we'll see what happens'

And?

Still nothing really relevant here.

No, he is not going to release the call, that is not how Trump operates and anything he says is suspect as he is unable to tell the truth even when it would have helped him.

Congress will eventually get the transcript though and it will eventually be released. At that point we can make a call on if he should be impeached for it or not.

Does your leaker have ANY firsthand information? NO.

If your leaker has not first hand information, just what in the hell does he have? NOTHING.

You are never going to compel the President to reveal the contents of discussions with another national leader over NOTHING because to do so would be the end of frank conversations between our President and other National Heads of State.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you JUST LIE A LITTLE HARDER the fuckup of your press will all go away...

your juvenile bullshit replies doesn't change the fact that the timeline just doesn't match the accusations..................

You are incredibly stupid. Jaw dropping stupid, Kotex.

^^^ your patent reply when you have no real refute.

What would I refute, you said nothing? You never do.

I'm sure you picked up the timeline bullshit from one of the hate sites like CNN or the fucking Nazis at NBC, but you didn't grasp their argument and what you post is simple non sequitur.

The President asked the Ukraine to investigate the corruption of Joe Biden in blackmailing them in 2015 when he held the money of United States Taxpayers hostage in order to thwart the investigation into his corrupt son by having the prosecutor fired.

Kind of like you accused Trump of doing with dottering old Mueller, except that Biden actually did it.

The problem is Kotex, you really are stupid. Look, you know it. You throw shit out because you're a partisan hack, BUT you're too stupid to pull it off. Even deantard is brighter than you.

right leaning & rupert murdoch owned WSJ says you are a basket dweller who wouldn't know or care about the truth as long as your dear leader stays in the whitehouse.
Timeline of Trump-Ukraine-Bidens Story
By Rebecca Ballhaus
Sept. 21, 2019 3:51 pm ET

Here is a timeline of events leading up to President Trump’s call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky:

May 2014: Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma Group, a privately owned Ukrainian gas producer. The company is run by a former government official whom Ukrainian and British authorities would investigate for alleged criminal wrongdoing, including money laundering. The younger Mr. Biden’s move drew criticism given that Ukraine was at the time within his father’s portfolio as vice president.
December 2015: Vice President Biden visited Kiev, where he pressured the country to do a better job of rooting out widespread corruption and called for the “reform” of the office of Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. Mr. Shokin had long been criticized by the U.S. and other countries for not doing enough to address corruption in Ukraine.

March 29, 2016: Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Mr. Shokin. By the time he left office, Mr. Shokin was no longer pursuing the Burisma investigation.

Jan. 23, 2018: Mr. Biden, speaking at a Council on Foreign Relations event

April 21, 2019: Mr. Zelensky elected as president of Ukraine.

April 25: Mr. Biden launched his presidential campaign.

April 28: Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani tweeted about investigations in Ukraine, charging that the “media blackout of the investigations in Ukraine of alleged Democrat corruption” proves there is a “double standard.”

May 9: The New York Times reported that Rudy Giuliani planned to travel to Kiev to pressure the Ukrainian government to press ahead with investigations into Joe Biden and into possible interference in the 2016 U.S. election. Mr. Giuliani subsequently canceled the trip, which he says Mr. Trump knew about.

May 16: Ukraine’s prosecutor general told Bloomberg that he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden or his son.

June: Mr. Giuliani met in Paris with an official from the Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office to discuss a possible Biden investigation.

July 21: Ukrainians voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Zelensky’s party in parliamentary elections, cementing the political newcomer’s power.

July 25: Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky spoke by phone. The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Mr. Trump urged Mr. Zelensky about eight times to talk to Mr. Giuliani about an investigation into Mr. Biden’s son, according to people familiar with the matter.

August: Mr. Giuliani met with Andriy Yermak, a top aide to Mr. Zelensky, in Madrid. The two also spoke by phone later in the month. Mr. Giuliani described Mr. Yermak as “very receptive” and said the aide told him Mr. Zelensky would “get to the bottom of all this.”

Late August: The Trump administration began reviewing $250 million in foreign aid to Ukraine, meant to help the country ward off Russia.

Aug. 29: Mr. Trump canceled his planned trip to Poland to deal with Hurricane Dorian. He had been scheduled to meet with Mr. Zelensky there. Mr. Yermak later called Mr. Giuliani to ask whether the president’s decision to cancel his trip was related to Mr. Zelensky; Mr. Giuliani says in an interview he assured him it wasn’t.

Sept. 12: The Trump administration released foreign aid to Ukraine.

Sept. 25: Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky are expected to meet in person for the first time at the United Nations General Assembly in New York City.

Timeline of Trump-Ukraine-Bidens Story

Which all amounts to what, in your alleged mind?

Biden obstructed Justice, Zelensky SHOULD investigate.

 

[Lesh]

"Trump has claimed that Biden in 2016 pressured the Ukrainian government to fire Viktor Shokin, the top Ukrainian prosecutor, because he was investigating a Ukrainian gas producer, Burisma Holdings, that had added Biden’s son Hunter to its board. But it turns out that the investigation had already been shelved when Biden acted and may have even involved a side company, not Burisma. The Ukrainian prosecutor was regarded as a failure, and “Joe Biden’s efforts to oust Shokin were universally praised,” said Anders Aslund, a Swedish economist heavily involved in Eastern European market reforms.

Moreover, Yuri Lutsenko, a former Ukrainian prosecutor general who succeeded the fired prosecutor, told Bloomberg News that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe or Hunter Biden."

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

"Trump has claimed that Biden in 2016 pressured the Ukrainian government to fire Viktor Shokin, the top Ukrainian prosecutor, because he was investigating a Ukrainian gas producer, Burisma Holdings, that had added Biden’s son Hunter to its board. But it turns out that the investigation had already been shelved when Biden acted and may have even involved a side company, not Burisma. The Ukrainian prosecutor was regarded as a failure, and “Joe Biden’s efforts to oust Shokin were universally praised,” said Anders Aslund, a Swedish economist heavily involved in Eastern European market reforms.

Moreover, Yuri Lutsenko, a former Ukrainian prosecutor general who succeeded the fired prosecutor, told Bloomberg News that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe or Hunter Biden."

What a surprise, seeing as Biden picked him.

 

[Lesh]

"Trump has claimed that Biden in 2016 pressured the Ukrainian government to fire Viktor Shokin, the top Ukrainian prosecutor, because he was investigating a Ukrainian gas producer, Burisma Holdings, that had added Biden’s son Hunter to its board. But it turns out that the investigation had already been shelved when Biden acted and may have even involved a side company, not Burisma. The Ukrainian prosecutor was regarded as a failure, and “Joe Biden’s efforts to oust Shokin were universally praised,” said Anders Aslund, a Swedish economist heavily involved in Eastern European market reforms.

Moreover, Yuri Lutsenko, a former Ukrainian prosecutor general who succeeded the fired prosecutor, told Bloomberg News that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe or Hunter Biden."

What a surprise, seeing as Biden picked him.

WTF are you talking about?

Biden "is guilty of" getting a corrupt prosecutor removed. Something the EU, the G7, and the International Monetary Fund supported

Trump...tried to coerce a foreign government into opening a bogus investigation of his political rival

 

[Thinker101]

"Trump has claimed that Biden in 2016 pressured the Ukrainian government to fire Viktor Shokin, the top Ukrainian prosecutor, because he was investigating a Ukrainian gas producer, Burisma Holdings, that had added Biden’s son Hunter to its board. But it turns out that the investigation had already been shelved when Biden acted and may have even involved a side company, not Burisma. The Ukrainian prosecutor was regarded as a failure, and “Joe Biden’s efforts to oust Shokin were universally praised,” said Anders Aslund, a Swedish economist heavily involved in Eastern European market reforms.

Moreover, Yuri Lutsenko, a former Ukrainian prosecutor general who succeeded the fired prosecutor, told Bloomberg News that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe or Hunter Biden."

What a surprise, seeing as Biden picked him.

WTF are you talking about?

Biden "is guilty of" getting a corrupt prosecutor removed. Something the EU, the G7, and the International Monetary Fund supported

Trump...tried to coerce a foreign government into opening a bogus investigation of his political rival

Sure, and it only cost us taxpayers $1.5 Billion...dumbass.

 

[JGalt]

"Trump has claimed that Biden in 2016 pressured the Ukrainian government to fire Viktor Shokin, the top Ukrainian prosecutor, because he was investigating a Ukrainian gas producer, Burisma Holdings, that had added Biden’s son Hunter to its board. But it turns out that the investigation had already been shelved when Biden acted and may have even involved a side company, not Burisma. The Ukrainian prosecutor was regarded as a failure, and “Joe Biden’s efforts to oust Shokin were universally praised,” said Anders Aslund, a Swedish economist heavily involved in Eastern European market reforms.

Moreover, Yuri Lutsenko, a former Ukrainian prosecutor general who succeeded the fired prosecutor, told Bloomberg News that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe or Hunter Biden."

What a surprise, seeing as Biden picked him.

WTF are you talking about?

Biden "is guilty of" getting a corrupt prosecutor removed. Something the EU, the G7, and the International Monetary Fund supported

Trump...tried to coerce a foreign government into opening a bogus investigation of his political rival

Dude, Biden is toast. He admitted on video that he committed Quid Pro Quo.

Vice President Mike Pence is on now, telling the world what Biden did.

 

[Lesh]

Biden forced out a corrupt Putin linked prosecutor. Of course you think that's bad

Trump tried to coerce a foreign government to opening a bogus investigation of his political opponent

and

Obstruction of the complaint is the crime. There may be others, but the crime which should be emphasized is not how many times the administration says it pressured the Ukrainian president, but the act of obstruction which is keeping that urgent, credible report from going to Congress.

 

[Lakhota]

Fox News’ Napolitano: Ukraine Call ‘Far More Serious’ For Trump Than Mueller Probe

I agree!

 

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And It Melts....

BIG “BOMBSHELL” IS JUST LAME HEARSAY: Whistleblower ‘didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications’ between Trump and Ukraine.

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Not relevent but here is CNN anyway:
"CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar with the case, that the complaint was prompted by concerns over communications between the President and a foreign leader. The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said."

Intel Inspector General suggested whistleblower had concerns about multiple actions - CNNPolitics

So yes, it is now being reported that the wistleblower may not have been directly knowledgeable about the call. If this is true then the complaint is bullshit.

“Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially ‘heavily populated’ call,” he asked. “I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA!” ~ djt
ummmm....

Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader
By Peter Baker
Sept. 22, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump acknowledged on Sunday that he discussed former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. with Ukraine’s president as Democrats ramped up calls for an investigation into whether he improperly pressured a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent.

While Mr. Trump defended his July phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine as perfectly appropriate, he confirmed that Mr. Biden came up during the discussion and that he accused the former vice president of corruption tied to his son Hunter’s business activities in that former Soviet republic.

“The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, with largely corruption, all of the corruption taking place and largely the fact that we don’t want our people like Vice President Biden and his son creating to the corruption already in the Ukraine,” Mr. Trump told reporters before leaving for a trip to Texas and Ohio.
[...]
Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader

trump says he would love that the transcript be released & has the power to do it...

do you think he will? to use his often repeated sidestepping phrase:

'we'll see what happens'

And?

Still nothing really relevant here.

No, he is not going to release the call, that is not how Trump operates and anything he says is suspect as he is unable to tell the truth even when it would have helped him.

Congress will eventually get the transcript though and it will eventually be released. At that point we can make a call on if he should be impeached for it or not.

the transcript ain't good enough - we know how bill barr likes to fiddle with facts & omissions. congress needs to see the actual whistleblower's complaint to the IG. personally, i have a clue as to who it is - but we'll hafta see about that too.

 

[playtime]

And It Melts....

BIG “BOMBSHELL” IS JUST LAME HEARSAY: Whistleblower ‘didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications’ between Trump and Ukraine.

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Not relevent but here is CNN anyway:
"CNN had earlier reported, citing a source familiar with the case, that the complaint was prompted by concerns over communications between the President and a foreign leader. The alleged whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications that partly prompted the complaint to the inspector general, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Thursday. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said."

Intel Inspector General suggested whistleblower had concerns about multiple actions - CNNPolitics

So yes, it is now being reported that the wistleblower may not have been directly knowledgeable about the call. If this is true then the complaint is bullshit.

“Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially ‘heavily populated’ call,” he asked. “I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA!” ~ djt
ummmm....

Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader
By Peter Baker
Sept. 22, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump acknowledged on Sunday that he discussed former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. with Ukraine’s president as Democrats ramped up calls for an investigation into whether he improperly pressured a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent.

While Mr. Trump defended his July phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine as perfectly appropriate, he confirmed that Mr. Biden came up during the discussion and that he accused the former vice president of corruption tied to his son Hunter’s business activities in that former Soviet republic.

“The conversation I had was largely congratulatory, with largely corruption, all of the corruption taking place and largely the fact that we don’t want our people like Vice President Biden and his son creating to the corruption already in the Ukraine,” Mr. Trump told reporters before leaving for a trip to Texas and Ohio.
[...]
Trump Acknowledges Discussing Biden in Call With Ukrainian Leader

trump says he would love that the transcript be released & has the power to do it...

do you think he will? to use his often repeated sidestepping phrase:

'we'll see what happens'

And?

Still nothing really relevant here.

No, he is not going to release the call, that is not how Trump operates and anything he says is suspect as he is unable to tell the truth even when it would have helped him.

Congress will eventually get the transcript though and it will eventually be released. At that point we can make a call on if he should be impeached for it or not.

Does your leaker have ANY firsthand information? NO.

If your leaker has not first hand information, just what in the hell does he have? NOTHING.

You are never going to compel the President to reveal the contents of discussions with another national leader over NOTHING because to do so would be the end of frank conversations between our President and other National Heads of State.

it depends on WHO the leaker is & there actually may be more than one.

 

[theHawk]

Biden Used U.S. Aid as Weapon to Force Ukraine to Fire Prosecutor Looking Into His Son’s Business.

Joe Biden recently admitted he used his position as vice president to get an investigation squashed that had been launched into his son’s crooked business.



I’m so old I remember when Governments interfering in the internal affairs of other Governments was a bad thing.

Funny. No credible proof. Ukraine cleared the Biden's of all this. There is no there there. Only Trump retards will swallow this conspiracy theory.

Yup, Ukraine took that $1.2B and then said, “oh look, no charges against your son, Mister Vice President.”

 

[iceberg]

Biden Used U.S. Aid as Weapon to Force Ukraine to Fire Prosecutor Looking Into His Son’s Business.

Joe Biden recently admitted he used his position as vice president to get an investigation squashed that had been launched into his son’s crooked business.



I’m so old I remember when Governments interfering in the internal affairs of other Governments was a bad thing.

i ask:

"appeared to have admitted"

how is that newsworthy?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Biden Used U.S. Aid as Weapon to Force Ukraine to Fire Prosecutor Looking Into His Son’s Business.

Joe Biden recently admitted he used his position as vice president to get an investigation squashed that had been launched into his son’s crooked business.



I’m so old I remember when Governments interfering in the internal affairs of other Governments was a bad thing.

i ask:

"appeared to have admitted"

how is that newsworthy?

Appeared? Nice editing. He said it on video.

 

[blastoff]

Go Biden!

He was on his way. But then he forgot where he was going and started mumbling 30330 over and over again.

 

[iceberg]

it's the very first paragraph you posted the link to.

"Joe Biden recently appeared to have admitted that he used his position as vice president to get an investigation squashed that had been launched into his son’s crooked business dealings in Ukraine."

do you read your shit, or just post and rant?

 

[RealDave]

Biden Used U.S. Aid as Weapon to Force Ukraine to Fire Prosecutor Looking Into His Son’s Business.

Joe Biden recently admitted he used his position as vice president to get an investigation squashed that had been launched into his son’s crooked business.



I’m so old I remember when Governments interfering in the internal affairs of other Governments was a bad thing.

You assfucks take a lie & just keep pushing it.

1) It was not Hunter Biden's company. He pwned no part of it. He was a member of the board
2) There is no indication Hunter Biden himself was being investigated.
3) The investigation into that company had been dormant for months
4) Other countries were pushing for the removal of that prosecutor as he was doing nothing to stop corruption & likely was involved himself.
5) Fund was put on hold because of the Ukraine's corruption & would be released if the prosecutor was removed.

You can try to use this lie to bury Trump's treason. I'm just wondering if they will televise his hanging.