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What sanction a are appropriate for the World community to take against Israel ?

marvin martian

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Now they are destroying media outlets in order to silence the world media and hide their murdering ways. What can be done about this ?

That was a beautiful airstrike on Hamas terrorist quarters. It's sad leftist media outlets were hosting them in their building. We need to be very careful about giving corporate media access to anything they can potentially use to support the free world's enemies.
 

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But there are underlying issues here that ought to be examined - one being the law that is forcing the eviction of Palestinian families from East Jerusalem. It's an inherently unfair and outdated law that allows Jews to easily reclaim property that was Jewish prior to 1948, but makes it extremely difficult for Palestinians to do so.

Maybe that needs to be addressed.

That law that gave the Arab family several decades to seek compromise with the Jewish owners
in who's property they've lived for 50 years, or the one that issues a death penalty/life of forced labor on any Arab accused of selling property to Jews?

The Pali propaganda immediately threatened the family by making it public -
while the PA lawyers made sure they could be best used to blame Jews,
dragged the process and cut any options.


Look around - all this mess, noise, propaganda...
and for what?? Because they ever cared about them?
Do you even realize they're now filming them on the street...?

All these weeks Arabs used them as excuse for violence,
went to war sacrificing several hundred Gazans...

and not a single one of them,
not even one - given them any basic care.

Jihadis can riot, launch rockets, make up blood libels - then go to sleep every evening passing this family on the street in their neighborhood. And that's for weeks...

What does this tell you?
It is not propoganda that Palestinians do not have the same rights to reclaiming property in Israel that Jews do.
 

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But there are underlying issues here that ought to be examined - one being the law that is forcing the eviction of Palestinian families from East Jerusalem. It's an inherently unfair and outdated law that allows Jews to easily reclaim property that was Jewish prior to 1948, but makes it extremely difficult for Palestinians to do so.

Maybe that needs to be addressed.

That law that gave the Arab family several decades to seek compromise with the Jewish owners
in who's property they've lived for 50 years, or the one that issues a death penalty/life of forced labor on any Arab accused of selling property to Jews?

The Pali propaganda immediately threatened the family by making it public -
while the PA lawyers made sure they could be best used to blame Jews,
dragged the process and cut any options.


Look around - all this mess, noise, propaganda...
and for what?? Because they ever cared about them?
Do you even realize they're now filming them on the street...?

All these weeks Arabs used them as excuse for violence,
went to war sacrificing several hundred Gazans...

and not a single one of them,
not even one - given them any basic care.

Jihadis can riot, launch rockets, make up blood libels - then go to sleep every evening passing this family on the street in their neighborhood. And that's for weeks...

What does this tell you?
It is not propoganda that Palestinians do not have the same rights to reclaiming property in Israel that Jews do.

Definitely it is propaganda.

A Jew got evicted from a Jewish neighborhood in Lebanon,
because he didn't pay rent to the Arab legal owner. Lebanese court gave him 3 decades to seek compromise, but instead Israelis declared him traitors, and appointed lawyers who made sure he ended on the streets despite all alternatives. Then Jews burn the neighborhood, attacking Arabs around Lebanon, and Israel launch a war claiming it was 'ethnic cleansing' for that Arab owner to live among Jews in a Jewish neighborhood, and cover their sky with indiscriminate rockets, while Jews in the diaspora incite against and attack Lebanese communities in the west.

Then I'd come and say - "It's not propaganda that Israelis do not have the same rights to reclaiming property in Lebanon that Arabs do."

Of course it is.

...

My point is by perpetuating such lies and demagoguery, in real practice, one gives hand to the likes of Hamas and PA to further abuse their own people for cheap anti-Israel propaganda.

No amount of virtue signaling can cover the simple fact -
that family ended and remains on the streets - in their Arab neighborhood,
not because of Israel, but because it's supposed to serve anti-Israel propaganda.

That's painful plain truth,
and no amount of virtue signaling can cover that.
Many people willingly give hand to abusing Arabs if they think it spites Israel.

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But there are underlying issues here that ought to be examined - one being the law that is forcing the eviction of Palestinian families from East Jerusalem. It's an inherently unfair and outdated law that allows Jews to easily reclaim property that was Jewish prior to 1948, but makes it extremely difficult for Palestinians to do so.

Maybe that needs to be addressed.

That law that gave the Arab family several decades to seek compromise with the Jewish owners
in who's property they've lived for 50 years, or the one that issues a death penalty/life of forced labor on any Arab accused of selling property to Jews?

The Pali propaganda immediately threatened the family by making it public -
while the PA lawyers made sure they could be best used to blame Jews,
dragged the process and cut any options.


Look around - all this mess, noise, propaganda...
and for what?? Because they ever cared about them?
Do you even realize they're now filming them on the street...?

All these weeks Arabs used them as excuse for violence,
went to war sacrificing several hundred Gazans...

and not a single one of them,
not even one - given them any basic care.

Jihadis can riot, launch rockets, make up blood libels - then go to sleep every evening passing this family on the street in their neighborhood. And that's for weeks...

What does this tell you?
It is not propoganda that Palestinians do not have the same rights to reclaiming property in Israel that Jews do.

Definitely it is propaganda.

A Jew got evicted from a Jewish neighborhood in Lebanon,
because he didn't pay rent to the Arab legal owner. Lebanese court gave him 3 decades to seek compromise, but instead Israelis declared him traitors, and appointed lawyers who made sure he ended on the streets despite all alternatives. Then Jews burn the neighborhood, attacking Arabs around Lebanon, and Israel launch a war claiming it was 'ethnic cleansing' for that Arab owner to live among Jews in a Jewish neighborhood, and cover their sky with indiscriminate rockets, while Jews in the diaspora incite against and attack Lebanese communities in the west.

Then I'd come and say - "It's not propaganda that Israelis do not have the same rights to reclaiming property in Lebanon that Arabs do."

Of course it is.

...

My point is by perpetuating such lies and demagoguery, in real practice, one gives hand to the likes of Hamas and PA to further abuse their own people for cheap anti-Israel propaganda.

No amount of virtue signaling can cover the simple fact -
that family ended and remains on the streets - in their Arab neighborhood,
not because of Israel, but because it's supposed to serve anti-Israel propaganda.

That's painful plain truth,
and no amount of virtue signaling can cover that.
Many people willingly give hand to abusing Arabs if they think it spites Israel.

hgK6Bu4k4utlxtOHCt9eTpTYTr69SZjHGdvoT6zxc-I.jpg

Virtue signaling? That seems to be the latest favorite bit of mud for the right to sling at every argument.

So...you to summarize that long schpiel and bring it back to the point - this property that the Palestinian's reside on belongs to Jews, or, rather belonged to Jews prior to the 1948 when both Jews and Arabs, displaced by the war, fled their properties and resettled in different areas and now the Jews want it back.

Can the Palestinians get the property they fled from back? Or, do they face barriers that are removed when it's Jews seeking to reclaim property?

Maybe that is one of the issues feeding this.
 

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But there are underlying issues here that ought to be examined - one being the law that is forcing the eviction of Palestinian families from East Jerusalem. It's an inherently unfair and outdated law that allows Jews to easily reclaim property that was Jewish prior to 1948, but makes it extremely difficult for Palestinians to do so.

Maybe that needs to be addressed.

That law that gave the Arab family several decades to seek compromise with the Jewish owners
in who's property they've lived for 50 years, or the one that issues a death penalty/life of forced labor on any Arab accused of selling property to Jews?

The Pali propaganda immediately threatened the family by making it public -
while the PA lawyers made sure they could be best used to blame Jews,
dragged the process and cut any options.


Look around - all this mess, noise, propaganda...
and for what?? Because they ever cared about them?
Do you even realize they're now filming them on the street...?

All these weeks Arabs used them as excuse for violence,
went to war sacrificing several hundred Gazans...

and not a single one of them,
not even one - given them any basic care.

Jihadis can riot, launch rockets, make up blood libels - then go to sleep every evening passing this family on the street in their neighborhood. And that's for weeks...

What does this tell you?
It is not propoganda that Palestinians do not have the same rights to reclaiming property in Israel that Jews do.

Definitely it is propaganda.

A Jew got evicted from a Jewish neighborhood in Lebanon,
because he didn't pay rent to the Arab legal owner. Lebanese court gave him 3 decades to seek compromise, but instead Israelis declared him traitors, and appointed lawyers who made sure he ended on the streets despite all alternatives. Then Jews burn the neighborhood, attacking Arabs around Lebanon, and Israel launch a war claiming it was 'ethnic cleansing' for that Arab owner to live among Jews in a Jewish neighborhood, and cover their sky with indiscriminate rockets, while Jews in the diaspora incite against and attack Lebanese communities in the west.

Then I'd come and say - "It's not propaganda that Israelis do not have the same rights to reclaiming property in Lebanon that Arabs do."

Of course it is.

...

My point is by perpetuating such lies and demagoguery, in real practice, one gives hand to the likes of Hamas and PA to further abuse their own people for cheap anti-Israel propaganda.

No amount of virtue signaling can cover the simple fact -
that family ended and remains on the streets - in their Arab neighborhood,
not because of Israel, but because it's supposed to serve anti-Israel propaganda.

That's painful plain truth,
and no amount of virtue signaling can cover that.
Many people willingly give hand to abusing Arabs if they think it spites Israel.

hgK6Bu4k4utlxtOHCt9eTpTYTr69SZjHGdvoT6zxc-I.jpg

Virtue signaling? That seems to be the latest favorite bit of mud for the right to sling at every argument.

So...you to summarize that long schpiel and bring it back to the point - this property that the Palestinian's reside on belongs to Jews, or, rather belonged to Jews prior to the 1948 when both Jews and Arabs, displaced by the war, fled their properties and resettled in different areas and now the Jews want it back.

Can the Palestinians get the property they fled from back? Or, do they face barriers that are removed when it's Jews seeking to reclaim property?

Maybe that is one of the issues feeding this.

Either you can prove the property belongs to you or not,
but the law that evicts tenants who refuse to pay rent, isn't different for Jews and Arabs.

That is just baloney propaganda - perpetuating which actually gives hand to create those barriers artificially by players invested in the conflict - as recently demonstrated.

Of all, I could say - "f**k those Arabs and those who abuse them to perpetuate this propaganda". But at the end of the day they're my enemies, and I'm the one raising the question - not a single "pro-Palestinian" activist on this forum - NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU.
 

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For many it's propaganda for pennies,
to feel good about one's virtue signaling, at best.
At worst it's - who cares about a bunch of Arabs if I can accuse Israel, whatever projected.

For them as a result, it's actually the streets - because someone needs to play that role.
Then actually keep them on the streets for weeks only to film that for Al-Jazeera.

"Arab hospitality" and "social justice warriors"...

Just think about it.
 
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