What My Fellow Liberals Don't Get About Venezuela

[anynameyouwish]

Also, I used to think that Pinochet was a Bad Guy. After this, maybe helicopter rides aren't such a bad idea after all

Yeah, you know it’s funny. I’ve never supported coups before. But After the absolute incompetence of two decades of socialist rule, you can make a strong humanitarian argument for it.

The only solution now is the overthrow of the Maduro Government and the complete removal of Maduro, I see no other option. The Venezuelans are in an humanitarian crisis of epic levels.

Ok

have at it!

I see trump told the russians to get out of venezuela.....a week ago.....

Have they gone yet?

 

[flack]

Sadly libtards never learn.

 

[Oddball]

to conservatives (it seems to me, judging by their own words) EVERYONE to the LEFT of LIMBAUGH is a LEFTIST!

As a lib/prog who opposes left wing extremism as much as I oppose right wing extremism I wish to thank you for being so fkn smart that YOU know what I BELIEVE and are so fkn kind that you are willing to inform me!

Thanks!

Now could you please tell me what I think about coke versus pepsi?

If you're claiming the progressive label, you are an extremist.

 

[Votto]

huh. Considering you think the left all support terrorists, too, Lucy, I hesitate to take your word for it. Forgive me.

Y'all do support terrorists...To my recollection, not a one of you moonbats have ever spoken out against the antifa goon squad riots.

Instead, you try to blame it all on Trump.

That's because Trump is a Putin White Supremacist space alien Hitler man.

Why would they trust him?

 

[Aponi]

Excellent piece by a Venezuelan liberal saying how clueless the knee-jerk anti-Americans are about Venezuela.

Opinion | What My Fellow Liberals Don’t Get About Venezuela

In the video, because of two decades of Chavez and Maduro rule, she says

• There is total chaos in Venezuela - hunger, lack of medicines and power black-outs
• Liberals are promoting and glorifying a brutal dictator
• Inflation is at 2,690,000%. Venezuelan money is so worthless, people are literally making origami out of it.
  
• Malnutrition and lack of medicine has caused life expectancy to decline by 3 to 5 years.
  
• 3,000,000 million have fled the country causing a Syria-level refugee crisis
  
• Things have gotten so bad that kidnappers have stopped kidnapping because people can't pay ransoms
• The Left blame American sanctions for economic collapse. But the economy collapsed in 2016, before sanctions against Venezuelan oil companies were imposed.
• The only sanctions at that time were travel-bans and frozen bank accounts of individuals who were connected to the government and had stolen billions of dollars.
• Leftists who think the country is doing fine are on another planet
• American sanctions are to restore Venezuelan democracy.
  
• Fifty-one countries recently recognized the opposition leader, Juan Guaido as the interim President after the Maduro government fraudulently stored the last election
• Guaido is not a conservative. He is a social democrat.
• If there's one value liberal America appreciates, it's human rights. So liberals have to stop their moral relativism regarding Venezuela.
• American liberals should support humanitarian aid and efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela.

Hopefully some of your fellow liberals will view this and get smart . its a good post .

 

[Aponi]

huh. Considering you think the left all support terrorists, too, Lucy, I hesitate to take your word for it. Forgive me.

Y'all do support terrorists...To my recollection, not a one of you moonbats have ever spoken out against the antifa goon squad riots.

Instead, you try to blame it all on Trump.

That's because Trump is a Putin White Supremacist space alien Hitler man.

Why would they trust him?

I.I see you have a severe case of Trump derangement syndrome

 

[Oldstyle]

Excellent piece by a Venezuelan liberal saying how clueless the knee-jerk anti-Americans are about Venezuela.

Opinion | What My Fellow Liberals Don’t Get About Venezuela

In the video, because of two decades of Chavez and Maduro rule, she says

• There is total chaos in Venezuela - hunger, lack of medicines and power black-outs
• Liberals are promoting and glorifying a brutal dictator
• Inflation is at 2,690,000%. Venezuelan money is so worthless, people are literally making origami out of it.
  
• Malnutrition and lack of medicine has caused life expectancy to decline by 3 to 5 years.
  
• 3,000,000 million have fled the country causing a Syria-level refugee crisis
  
• Things have gotten so bad that kidnappers have stopped kidnapping because people can't pay ransoms
• The Left blame American sanctions for economic collapse. But the economy collapsed in 2016, before sanctions against Venezuelan oil companies were imposed.
• The only sanctions at that time were travel-bans and frozen bank accounts of individuals who were connected to the government and had stolen billions of dollars.
• Leftists who think the country is doing fine are on another planet
• American sanctions are to restore Venezuelan democracy.
  
• Fifty-one countries recently recognized the opposition leader, Juan Guaido as the interim President after the Maduro government fraudulently stored the last election
• Guaido is not a conservative. He is a social democrat.
• If there's one value liberal America appreciates, it's human rights. So liberals have to stop their moral relativism regarding Venezuela.
• American liberals should support humanitarian aid and efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela.

What YOU don't get about liberals!

We do NOT want to be like VENEZUELA!

YOU are the (%&%?$#%^&) who keep TELLING US that WE WANT TO BE LIKE VENEZUELA!

We keep telling you; "no no! not venezuela! FINLAND, NORWAY, SWEDEN!"

Can we talk about Finland and Norway?

I don't mean to offend but I'd like to know what the fuk is wrong with the brain of a person who keeps claiming "liberals want to be like venezuela" when we keep telling you we don't!

I thought the Venezuelan in the OP was talking about the anti-American left IN HER OWN COUNTRY. Obviously, at least from what I've seen here, the left doesn't support that Maduro government at all. That's probably because the left in this country isn't actually socialist/communist as we are always being blamed.

I'm pretty sure the post before yours was from a liberal that was calling for the US to become a Socialist country like Finland, Norway and Sweden, Old Lady! I'm also pretty sure that the majority of liberals here would like to see a government run healthcare system as well as a "living wage"! My point is that you don't want to be CALLED Socialists and yet you'd like to see a socialistic agenda passed!

 

[TNHarley]

Excellent piece by a Venezuelan liberal saying how clueless the knee-jerk anti-Americans are about Venezuela.

Opinion | What My Fellow Liberals Don’t Get About Venezuela

In the video, because of two decades of Chavez and Maduro rule, she says

• There is total chaos in Venezuela - hunger, lack of medicines and power black-outs
• Liberals are promoting and glorifying a brutal dictator
• Inflation is at 2,690,000%. Venezuelan money is so worthless, people are literally making origami out of it.
  
• Malnutrition and lack of medicine has caused life expectancy to decline by 3 to 5 years.
  
• 3,000,000 million have fled the country causing a Syria-level refugee crisis
  
• Things have gotten so bad that kidnappers have stopped kidnapping because people can't pay ransoms
• The Left blame American sanctions for economic collapse. But the economy collapsed in 2016, before sanctions against Venezuelan oil companies were imposed.
• The only sanctions at that time were travel-bans and frozen bank accounts of individuals who were connected to the government and had stolen billions of dollars.
• Leftists who think the country is doing fine are on another planet
• American sanctions are to restore Venezuelan democracy.
  
• Fifty-one countries recently recognized the opposition leader, Juan Guaido as the interim President after the Maduro government fraudulently stored the last election
• Guaido is not a conservative. He is a social democrat.
• If there's one value liberal America appreciates, it's human rights. So liberals have to stop their moral relativism regarding Venezuela.
• American liberals should support humanitarian aid and efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela.

What YOU don't get about liberals!

We do NOT want to be like VENEZUELA!

YOU are the (%&%?$#%^&) who keep TELLING US that WE WANT TO BE LIKE VENEZUELA!

We keep telling you; "no no! not venezuela! FINLAND, NORWAY, SWEDEN!"

Can we talk about Finland and Norway?

I don't mean to offend but I'd like to know what the fuk is wrong with the brain of a person who keeps claiming "liberals want to be like venezuela" when we keep telling you we don't!

You support abusing power to get the welfare programs you want. Thats close enough, by any standard.

 

[Pete7469]

huh. Considering you think the left all support terrorists, too, Lucy, I hesitate to take your word for it. Forgive me.

Y'all do support terrorists...To my recollection, not a one of you moonbats have ever spoken out against the antifa goon squad riots.

Instead, you try to blame it all on Trump.

As far as I'm concerned they all ARE TERRORISTS. They support armed robbery by government, politically motivated prosecution, the use of government force to coerce citizens to behave according to social justice warrior whims and the destruction of religious symbols and monuments even when they're on private property. If you ask me the left is the taliban without the burkhas.

 

[OldLady]

Also, I used to think that Pinochet was a Bad Guy. After this, maybe helicopter rides aren't such a bad idea after all

Yeah, you know it’s funny. I’ve never supported coups before. But After the absolute incompetence of two decades of socialist rule, you can make a strong humanitarian argument for it.

Yes, when people start starving, there's bound to be trouble. Do you think we should be involved in this coup?

 

[TNHarley]

Also, I used to think that Pinochet was a Bad Guy. After this, maybe helicopter rides aren't such a bad idea after all

Yeah, you know it’s funny. I’ve never supported coups before. But After the absolute incompetence of two decades of socialist rule, you can make a strong humanitarian argument for it.

Yes, when people start starving, there's bound to be trouble. Do you think we should be involved in this coup?

Nope

 

[HenryBHough]

Now watch for leftist rallies to have murderous helicopters banned.

 

[OldLady]

Excellent piece by a Venezuelan liberal saying how clueless the knee-jerk anti-Americans are about Venezuela.

Opinion | What My Fellow Liberals Don’t Get About Venezuela

In the video, because of two decades of Chavez and Maduro rule, she says

• There is total chaos in Venezuela - hunger, lack of medicines and power black-outs
• Liberals are promoting and glorifying a brutal dictator
• Inflation is at 2,690,000%. Venezuelan money is so worthless, people are literally making origami out of it.
  
• Malnutrition and lack of medicine has caused life expectancy to decline by 3 to 5 years.
  
• 3,000,000 million have fled the country causing a Syria-level refugee crisis
  
• Things have gotten so bad that kidnappers have stopped kidnapping because people can't pay ransoms
• The Left blame American sanctions for economic collapse. But the economy collapsed in 2016, before sanctions against Venezuelan oil companies were imposed.
• The only sanctions at that time were travel-bans and frozen bank accounts of individuals who were connected to the government and had stolen billions of dollars.
• Leftists who think the country is doing fine are on another planet
• American sanctions are to restore Venezuelan democracy.
  
• Fifty-one countries recently recognized the opposition leader, Juan Guaido as the interim President after the Maduro government fraudulently stored the last election
• Guaido is not a conservative. He is a social democrat.
• If there's one value liberal America appreciates, it's human rights. So liberals have to stop their moral relativism regarding Venezuela.
• American liberals should support humanitarian aid and efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela.

What YOU don't get about liberals!

We do NOT want to be like VENEZUELA!

YOU are the (%&%?$#%^&) who keep TELLING US that WE WANT TO BE LIKE VENEZUELA!

We keep telling you; "no no! not venezuela! FINLAND, NORWAY, SWEDEN!"

Can we talk about Finland and Norway?

I don't mean to offend but I'd like to know what the fuk is wrong with the brain of a person who keeps claiming "liberals want to be like venezuela" when we keep telling you we don't!

I thought the Venezuelan in the OP was talking about the anti-American left IN HER OWN COUNTRY. Obviously, at least from what I've seen here, the left doesn't support that Maduro government at all. That's probably because the left in this country isn't actually socialist/communist as we are always being blamed.

I'm pretty sure the post before yours was from a liberal that was calling for the US to become a Socialist country like Finland, Norway and Sweden, Old Lady! I'm also pretty sure that the majority of liberals here would like to see a government run healthcare system as well as a "living wage"! My point is that you don't want to be CALLED Socialists and yet you'd like to see a socialistic agenda passed!

Not seeing Items 1 or 2 above. We have a "mixed" system that includes socialist programs to benefit the poor but we are still a capitalist nation. Maybe a mixture is the best solution, since either system in its pure form is open to great abuses.
Just note that what one poster here advocates does not automatically make it part of the Democratic platform.

 

[Tehon]

Excellent piece by a Venezuelan liberal saying how clueless the knee-jerk anti-Americans are about Venezuela.

Opinion | What My Fellow Liberals Don’t Get About Venezuela

In the video, because of two decades of Chavez and Maduro rule, she says

• There is total chaos in Venezuela - hunger, lack of medicines and power black-outs
• Liberals are promoting and glorifying a brutal dictator
• Inflation is at 2,690,000%. Venezuelan money is so worthless, people are literally making origami out of it.
  
• Malnutrition and lack of medicine has caused life expectancy to decline by 3 to 5 years.
  
• 3,000,000 million have fled the country causing a Syria-level refugee crisis
  
• Things have gotten so bad that kidnappers have stopped kidnapping because people can't pay ransoms
• The Left blame American sanctions for economic collapse. But the economy collapsed in 2016, before sanctions against Venezuelan oil companies were imposed.
• The only sanctions at that time were travel-bans and frozen bank accounts of individuals who were connected to the government and had stolen billions of dollars.
• Leftists who think the country is doing fine are on another planet
• American sanctions are to restore Venezuelan democracy.
  
• Fifty-one countries recently recognized the opposition leader, Juan Guaido as the interim President after the Maduro government fraudulently stored the last election
• Guaido is not a conservative. He is a social democrat.
• If there's one value liberal America appreciates, it's human rights. So liberals have to stop their moral relativism regarding Venezuela.
• American liberals should support humanitarian aid and efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela.

The fundamental principle that our country was founded on was the right to self determination. Our founding document conveys that very message. You can't call yourself a liberal and ignore it.

 

[Oldstyle]

Excellent piece by a Venezuelan liberal saying how clueless the knee-jerk anti-Americans are about Venezuela.

Opinion | What My Fellow Liberals Don’t Get About Venezuela

In the video, because of two decades of Chavez and Maduro rule, she says

• There is total chaos in Venezuela - hunger, lack of medicines and power black-outs
• Liberals are promoting and glorifying a brutal dictator
• Inflation is at 2,690,000%. Venezuelan money is so worthless, people are literally making origami out of it.
  
• Malnutrition and lack of medicine has caused life expectancy to decline by 3 to 5 years.
  
• 3,000,000 million have fled the country causing a Syria-level refugee crisis
  
• Things have gotten so bad that kidnappers have stopped kidnapping because people can't pay ransoms
• The Left blame American sanctions for economic collapse. But the economy collapsed in 2016, before sanctions against Venezuelan oil companies were imposed.
• The only sanctions at that time were travel-bans and frozen bank accounts of individuals who were connected to the government and had stolen billions of dollars.
• Leftists who think the country is doing fine are on another planet
• American sanctions are to restore Venezuelan democracy.
  
• Fifty-one countries recently recognized the opposition leader, Juan Guaido as the interim President after the Maduro government fraudulently stored the last election
• Guaido is not a conservative. He is a social democrat.
• If there's one value liberal America appreciates, it's human rights. So liberals have to stop their moral relativism regarding Venezuela.
• American liberals should support humanitarian aid and efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela.

What YOU don't get about liberals!

We do NOT want to be like VENEZUELA!

YOU are the (%&%?$#%^&) who keep TELLING US that WE WANT TO BE LIKE VENEZUELA!

We keep telling you; "no no! not venezuela! FINLAND, NORWAY, SWEDEN!"

Can we talk about Finland and Norway?

I don't mean to offend but I'd like to know what the fuk is wrong with the brain of a person who keeps claiming "liberals want to be like venezuela" when we keep telling you we don't!

I thought the Venezuelan in the OP was talking about the anti-American left IN HER OWN COUNTRY. Obviously, at least from what I've seen here, the left doesn't support that Maduro government at all. That's probably because the left in this country isn't actually socialist/communist as we are always being blamed.

I'm pretty sure the post before yours was from a liberal that was calling for the US to become a Socialist country like Finland, Norway and Sweden, Old Lady! I'm also pretty sure that the majority of liberals here would like to see a government run healthcare system as well as a "living wage"! My point is that you don't want to be CALLED Socialists and yet you'd like to see a socialistic agenda passed!

Not seeing Items 1 or 2 above. We have a "mixed" system that includes socialist programs to benefit the poor but we are still a capitalist nation. Maybe a mixture is the best solution, since either system in its pure form is open to great abuses.
Just note that what one poster here advocates does not automatically make it part of the Democratic platform.

Would you admit that the Democratic platform is veering to the left rather dramatically right now? Would it be an exaggeration to see this as a moment that could be a turning point in US political history? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is demanding things that have moderate Democrats running for the hills. So who wins that battle?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Would you admit that the Democratic platform is veering to the left rather dramatically right now? Would it be an exaggeration to see this as a moment that could be a turning point in US political history? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is demanding things that have moderate Democrats running for the hills. So who wins that battle?

What I have been trying to say, everyone is underestimating AOC and her fellow leftist. Making memes, laughing at the ghastly ignorant statements and claims is indeed easy to do - but they forget that millennials are also voters. And too many of them are leftist...course they really have absolutely no idea what that really is...but enough to vote for them.

 

[OldLady]

Excellent piece by a Venezuelan liberal saying how clueless the knee-jerk anti-Americans are about Venezuela.

Opinion | What My Fellow Liberals Don’t Get About Venezuela

In the video, because of two decades of Chavez and Maduro rule, she says

• There is total chaos in Venezuela - hunger, lack of medicines and power black-outs
• Liberals are promoting and glorifying a brutal dictator
• Inflation is at 2,690,000%. Venezuelan money is so worthless, people are literally making origami out of it.
  
• Malnutrition and lack of medicine has caused life expectancy to decline by 3 to 5 years.
  
• 3,000,000 million have fled the country causing a Syria-level refugee crisis
  
• Things have gotten so bad that kidnappers have stopped kidnapping because people can't pay ransoms
• The Left blame American sanctions for economic collapse. But the economy collapsed in 2016, before sanctions against Venezuelan oil companies were imposed.
• The only sanctions at that time were travel-bans and frozen bank accounts of individuals who were connected to the government and had stolen billions of dollars.
• Leftists who think the country is doing fine are on another planet
• American sanctions are to restore Venezuelan democracy.
  
• Fifty-one countries recently recognized the opposition leader, Juan Guaido as the interim President after the Maduro government fraudulently stored the last election
• Guaido is not a conservative. He is a social democrat.
• If there's one value liberal America appreciates, it's human rights. So liberals have to stop their moral relativism regarding Venezuela.
• American liberals should support humanitarian aid and efforts to restore democracy in Venezuela.

What YOU don't get about liberals!

We do NOT want to be like VENEZUELA!

YOU are the (%&%?$#%^&) who keep TELLING US that WE WANT TO BE LIKE VENEZUELA!

We keep telling you; "no no! not venezuela! FINLAND, NORWAY, SWEDEN!"

Can we talk about Finland and Norway?

I don't mean to offend but I'd like to know what the fuk is wrong with the brain of a person who keeps claiming "liberals want to be like venezuela" when we keep telling you we don't!

I thought the Venezuelan in the OP was talking about the anti-American left IN HER OWN COUNTRY. Obviously, at least from what I've seen here, the left doesn't support that Maduro government at all. That's probably because the left in this country isn't actually socialist/communist as we are always being blamed.

I'm pretty sure the post before yours was from a liberal that was calling for the US to become a Socialist country like Finland, Norway and Sweden, Old Lady! I'm also pretty sure that the majority of liberals here would like to see a government run healthcare system as well as a "living wage"! My point is that you don't want to be CALLED Socialists and yet you'd like to see a socialistic agenda passed!

Not seeing Items 1 or 2 above. We have a "mixed" system that includes socialist programs to benefit the poor but we are still a capitalist nation. Maybe a mixture is the best solution, since either system in its pure form is open to great abuses.
Just note that what one poster here advocates does not automatically make it part of the Democratic platform.

Would you admit that the Democratic platform is veering to the left rather dramatically right now? Would it be an exaggeration to see this as a moment that could be a turning point in US political history? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is demanding things that have moderate Democrats running for the hills. So who wins that battle?

Most people have sense. There are a lot more "moderates," left and right, than there are extremists.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

What YOU don't get about liberals!

We do NOT want to be like VENEZUELA!

YOU are the (%&%?$#%^&) who keep TELLING US that WE WANT TO BE LIKE VENEZUELA!

We keep telling you; "no no! not venezuela! FINLAND, NORWAY, SWEDEN!"

Can we talk about Finland and Norway?

I don't mean to offend but I'd like to know what the fuk is wrong with the brain of a person who keeps claiming "liberals want to be like venezuela" when we keep telling you we don't!

I thought the Venezuelan in the OP was talking about the anti-American left IN HER OWN COUNTRY. Obviously, at least from what I've seen here, the left doesn't support that Maduro government at all. That's probably because the left in this country isn't actually socialist/communist as we are always being blamed.

I'm pretty sure the post before yours was from a liberal that was calling for the US to become a Socialist country like Finland, Norway and Sweden, Old Lady! I'm also pretty sure that the majority of liberals here would like to see a government run healthcare system as well as a "living wage"! My point is that you don't want to be CALLED Socialists and yet you'd like to see a socialistic agenda passed!

Not seeing Items 1 or 2 above. We have a "mixed" system that includes socialist programs to benefit the poor but we are still a capitalist nation. Maybe a mixture is the best solution, since either system in its pure form is open to great abuses.
Just note that what one poster here advocates does not automatically make it part of the Democratic platform.

Would you admit that the Democratic platform is veering to the left rather dramatically right now? Would it be an exaggeration to see this as a moment that could be a turning point in US political history? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is demanding things that have moderate Democrats running for the hills. So who wins that battle?

Most people have sense. There are a lot more "moderates," left and right, than there are extremists.

I certainly would have agreed with you even 5 years ago.
There is a large under current of 20 somethings that are way the hell out there. Perhaps not to the level of the 60's, but not that far away from it.
There is a growing, and increasingly strong leftist branch for the past 10 years that is getting more and more.

 

[OldLady]

I thought the Venezuelan in the OP was talking about the anti-American left IN HER OWN COUNTRY. Obviously, at least from what I've seen here, the left doesn't support that Maduro government at all. That's probably because the left in this country isn't actually socialist/communist as we are always being blamed.

I'm pretty sure the post before yours was from a liberal that was calling for the US to become a Socialist country like Finland, Norway and Sweden, Old Lady! I'm also pretty sure that the majority of liberals here would like to see a government run healthcare system as well as a "living wage"! My point is that you don't want to be CALLED Socialists and yet you'd like to see a socialistic agenda passed!

Not seeing Items 1 or 2 above. We have a "mixed" system that includes socialist programs to benefit the poor but we are still a capitalist nation. Maybe a mixture is the best solution, since either system in its pure form is open to great abuses.
Just note that what one poster here advocates does not automatically make it part of the Democratic platform.

Would you admit that the Democratic platform is veering to the left rather dramatically right now? Would it be an exaggeration to see this as a moment that could be a turning point in US political history? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is demanding things that have moderate Democrats running for the hills. So who wins that battle?

Most people have sense. There are a lot more "moderates," left and right, than there are extremists.

I certainly would have agreed with you even 5 years ago.
There is a large under current of 20 somethings that are way the hell out there. Perhaps not to the level of the 60's, but not that far away from it.
There is a growing, and increasingly strong leftist branch for the past 10 years that is getting more and more.

I'm not at all happy with what has happened on the far right, either. Maybe the two extremes will eat each other.

 

[Tehon]

I'm pretty sure the post before yours was from a liberal that was calling for the US to become a Socialist country like Finland, Norway and Sweden, Old Lady! I'm also pretty sure that the majority of liberals here would like to see a government run healthcare system as well as a "living wage"! My point is that you don't want to be CALLED Socialists and yet you'd like to see a socialistic agenda passed!

Not seeing Items 1 or 2 above. We have a "mixed" system that includes socialist programs to benefit the poor but we are still a capitalist nation. Maybe a mixture is the best solution, since either system in its pure form is open to great abuses.
Just note that what one poster here advocates does not automatically make it part of the Democratic platform.

Would you admit that the Democratic platform is veering to the left rather dramatically right now? Would it be an exaggeration to see this as a moment that could be a turning point in US political history? The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is demanding things that have moderate Democrats running for the hills. So who wins that battle?

Most people have sense. There are a lot more "moderates," left and right, than there are extremists.

I certainly would have agreed with you even 5 years ago.
There is a large under current of 20 somethings that are way the hell out there. Perhaps not to the level of the 60's, but not that far away from it.
There is a growing, and increasingly strong leftist branch for the past 10 years that is getting more and more.

I'm not at all happy with what has happened on the far right, either. Maybe the two extremes will eat each other.

It's more likely that the extremes will eat the moderate.