What must Israel do to "end the occupation"? (solutions thread)

I can't believe that the Jews can really be that happy to have to oppress millions of non-Jews to maintain their rule. But I may be wrong.

What makes you think the Jewish people are happy with the status quo?
The Zionists imported settlers by the boatload to be cannon fodder for their colonial project. A lot of people are being hurt by their project.
That makes no sense. Jewish immigration to the area you falsely portray as your invented "country of Pal'istan" was encouraged by the Mandatory.

The Jewish people were there to re-establish their homeland. Your "cannon fodder" comment makes no sense. But then, you goofy converts aren't required to make sense.
 
They need to be MORE like the Zionists. In a pragmatic kind of way..

Zionists used terrorism to get what they wanted, so why is everyone complaining when Palestinians copy Zionist methods?

You're ignoring all the HARD diplomatic efforts, the lobbying, the PLANNING, the fund raising, the coalition building, the Congresses, the city planning and infrastructure priorities. A movement FOCUSED on creating a nation. YOU -- will kick back the few instances of self-protection or violence that happened along the way. But in balance, they were not the PRIMARY method of "resisting" or getting attention for the cause.

...and you are ignoring the fact that Zionism was (still is to a leser extent) prevalent amongst the west's Christian elites along with their anti-Semitism in the late 19th early 20th centuries, that made it easy to manipulate powerful figures in governments on both sides of the Atlantic with the "siren call" of "returning the Jews to enable them to build their temple and bring about the End times".

The Zionist PLAN was always to dispossess the native inhabitants...you are ignoring the fact that palestine already had cities and infrastructure, mostly created by British and Palestinian investment after WW1. The Zionists didn't "make the desert bloom" they bought up the best available agricultural land wherever they could and expelled the tenant farmers.

The Zionist movement FOCUSED on "appropriating" other people's lands, farms, homes to create their settler state. YOU ignore the widespead terrorism committed by the Zionists for twenty years; none of which was "self protection".

The Palestinians co-operated with the British as much as they could but were, by and large, deliberately cut out of government to enable the British to fulfill their Balfour Declaration promises. It took 10 years of being forgotten by the world, before Palestinians finally resorted to fighting back against what had been done to them. You are ignoring the fact they already had a country to begin with.
 
Jewish immigration to the area you falsely portray as your invented "country of Pal'istan" was encouraged by the Mandatory.
Indeed, the immigration policy was imposed on Palestine by a foreign power, at the point of a gun, and against their will.

That was a violation of their rights and the LoN Covenant.
 
They need to be MORE like the Zionists. In a pragmatic kind of way..

Zionists used terrorism to get what they wanted, so why is everyone complaining when Palestinians copy Zionist methods?

You're ignoring all the HARD diplomatic efforts, the lobbying, the PLANNING, the fund raising, the coalition building, the Congresses, the city planning and infrastructure priorities. A movement FOCUSED on creating a nation. YOU -- will kick back the few instances of self-protection or violence that happened along the way. But in balance, they were not the PRIMARY method of "resisting" or getting attention for the cause.

...and you are ignoring the fact that Zionism was (still is to a leser extent) prevalent amongst the west's Christian elites along with their anti-Semitism in the late 19th early 20th centuries, that made it easy to manipulate powerful figures in governments on both sides of the Atlantic with the "siren call" of "returning the Jews to enable them to build their temple and bring about the End times".

The Zionist PLAN was always to dispossess the native inhabitants...you are ignoring the fact that palestine already had cities and infrastructure, mostly created by British and Palestinian investment after WW1. The Zionists didn't "make the desert bloom" they bought up the best available agricultural land wherever they could and expelled the tenant farmers.

The Zionist movement FOCUSED on "appropriating" other people's lands, farms, homes to create their settler state. YOU ignore the widespead terrorism committed by the Zionists for twenty years; none of which was "self protection".

The Palestinians co-operated with the British as much as they could but were, by and large, deliberately cut out of government to enable the British to fulfill their Balfour Declaration promises. It took 10 years of being forgotten by the world, before Palestinians finally resorted to fighting back against what had been done to them. You are ignoring the fact they already had a country to begin with.
The Zionist PLAN was always to dispossess the native inhabitants...

That is true. It is a pre planned crime.

 
Jewish immigration to the area you falsely portray as your invented "country of Pal'istan" was encouraged by the Mandatory.
Indeed, the immigration policy was imposed on Palestine by a foreign power, at the point of a gun, and against their will.

That was a violation of their rights and the LoN Covenant.

Indeed, you make up these nonsensical fables as though anyone takes them seriously.
 
NONE of this concerns the TITLE of this thread which is about solutions to end the occupation.
And I'm not buying so much "stolen land" when I've seen the Deeds of Record for the original city centers in Israel..
 
NONE of this concerns the TITLE of this thread which is about solutions to end the occupation.
And I'm not buying so much "stolen land" when I've seen the Deeds of Record for the original city centers in Israel..
You can't find a just solution to a problem without defining the problem.
 

You just posted this asshole in another thread.


You poor, dear. There are multiple parts.

Multiple instances for your hurt islamo-sensibilities.

Oh yeah, that is the one where they play a case of terrorist cards.


Right, because Islamic terrorism has no connection to the Hamas or Fatah versions of Islamic terrorists.

Still playing those old terrorist cards, I see.
 

You just posted this asshole in another thread.


You poor, dear. There are multiple parts.

Multiple instances for your hurt islamo-sensibilities.

Oh yeah, that is the one where they play a case of terrorist cards.


Right, because Islamic terrorism has no connection to the Hamas or Fatah versions of Islamic terrorists.

Still playing those old terrorist cards, I see.


Still denying the fact of islamic terrorism, I see.
 
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You just posted this asshole in another thread.

You poor, dear. There are multiple parts.

Multiple instances for your hurt islamo-sensibilities.
Oh yeah, that is the one where they play a case of terrorist cards.

Right, because Islamic terrorism has no connection to the Hamas or Fatah versions of Islamic terrorists.
Still playing those old terrorist cards, I see.

Still denying the fact of islamic terrorism, I see.
Chickenfeed compared to Israel's terrorism.
 
You poor, dear. There are multiple parts.

Multiple instances for your hurt islamo-sensibilities.
Oh yeah, that is the one where they play a case of terrorist cards.

Right, because Islamic terrorism has no connection to the Hamas or Fatah versions of Islamic terrorists.
Still playing those old terrorist cards, I see.

Still denying the fact of islamic terrorism, I see.
Chickenfeed compared to Israel's terrorism.

Typical nonsensical whining from the goofy convert.
 
Oh yeah, that is the one where they play a case of terrorist cards.

Right, because Islamic terrorism has no connection to the Hamas or Fatah versions of Islamic terrorists.
Still playing those old terrorist cards, I see.

Still denying the fact of islamic terrorism, I see.
Chickenfeed compared to Israel's terrorism.

Typical nonsensical whining from the goofy convert.
Your double standard is noted.
 
You can't find a just solution to a problem without defining the problem.

This makes sense. Define the problem then. What territory is occupied? Which peoples are occupied? How is occupation measured? How is the absence of occupation measured?
 
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