What makes someone a “Conservative”?

[AzogtheDefiler]

I never called anyone a maggots. You're much too sensitive and fragile.

Yes, but he led a movement that resulted in one of our greatest Presidents in the 20th Century to be elected: Ronald Reagan.

MAGAt is literally you calling someone a maggot. That’s why leftists add the “t”.

I was born in 1980 and I not certain you’re correct there. My dad tells me it was Carter’s awful presidency that led to the Reagan win.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Disagreed. What makes you think so?

Your posts

It is an opinion forum, I have been told and so this is my opinion.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

MAGAts aren't conservatives, they are cultists filled with terrorists and terrorist supporters.

As stated previously, I'm a Goldwater conservative, not an anti-constitutionalist MAGA cultist.

Okay. So what do "MAGAts" have to do with this?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Sure, it does. And, yes, you are younger than me, but your age is not young. You should know better than that.

Yeah. Math is ageist now. You’re a senile old man. Explains your posts now.

 

[Correll]

MAGAts aren't conservatives, they are cultists filled with terrorists and terrorist supporters.

As stated previously, I'm a Goldwater conservative, not an anti-constitutionalist MAGA cultist.

Sounds like bullshit.

 

[Divine Wind]

Okay. So what do "MAGAts" have to do with this?

They aren't conservative. MAGAts are cultists who want a white nationalist autocracy and are willing to violently overthrow our Republic and shred our Constitution in order to achieve that goal.

It's all part of Project 2025. Do you support our Constitution and our Republic against all enemies, foreign and domestic? Have you ever taken an oath to support and defend our Constitution? In my day, all conservatives did so. Nowadays, MAGAts do not.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

They aren't conservative. MAGAts are cultists who want a white nationalist autocracy and are willing to violently overthrow our Republic and shred our Constitution in order to achieve that goal.

It's all part of Project 2025. Do you support our Constitution and our Republic against all enemies, foreign and domestic? Have you ever taken an oath to support and defend our Constitution? In my day, all conservatives did so. Nowadays, MAGAts do not.

You didn't answer the question. What do my remarks regarding the downtrodden have to do with MAGA?

 

[Divine Wind]

You didn't answer the question. What do my remarks regarding the downtrodden have to do with MAGA?

Disagreed, but I'll say it again: The OP is about "what makes someone a conservative". MAGAts aren't conservative, but I am. Specifically a Goldwater Conservative and, now, a Libertarian.

https://www.libertarianism.org/what-is-a-libertarian

libertarians are “socially liberal and fiscally conservative.” That’s misleading. Even when libertarians agree with the left or the right on a given issue, they often have very different reasons for the conclusions they draw, and much of the time libertarians disagree with left and right both. When evaluating different specific policies and institutions, libertarians have a coherent set of ideas all their own. That’s not to say libertarians always agree. They don’t. And what’s more, they shouldn’t, because libertarianism properly understood is an ongoing conversation, not a dogma.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Citizens are more criminal or there are more citizen criminals? There's a difference. If you mean the former then I'd have to say you are decidedly biased. If you mean the latter then I would say yes, of course there are more citizen criminals. That's just plain logic. But why import more criminals if you don't have to?

It's not about which group commits more crime, it's about adding crime and criminal acts to that which we already have. If there is a way to legally and constitutionally reduce the number of murders, assaults and drunk driving deaths, would it not behoove us to do so?

Per capita, our citizens, as you well know, Ghost, commit more crimes than illegals.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Yeah. Math is ageist now. You’re a senile old man. Explains your posts now.

You said Math is ageist, not me. You are several years young than me, but much more mentally disabled. Lack of empathy makes a person a conservative, the old "I got mine and want yours" them of Republikkkanism.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Disagreed, but I'll say it again: The OP is about "what makes someone a conservative". MAGAts aren't conservative, but I am. Specifically a Goldwater Conservative and, now, a Libertarian.

Okay. But I didn't say anything about "MAGAts" and I never claimed they were conservative. Neither did I call your conservatism into question so I don't understand why you keep giving me your political resumé and defining conservatism.

https://www.libertarianism.org/what-is-a-libertarian

libertarians are “socially liberal and fiscally conservative.” That’s misleading. Even when libertarians agree with the left or the right on a given issue, they often have very different reasons for the conclusions they draw, and much of the time libertarians disagree with left and right both. When evaluating different specific policies and institutions, libertarians have a coherent set of ideas all their own. That’s not to say libertarians always agree. They don’t. And what’s more, they shouldn’t, because libertarianism properly understood is an ongoing conversation, not a dogma.

Again, my remarks were specifically about the so called "downtrodden". I don't know why you're telling me all this.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You said Math is ageist, not me. You are several years young than me, but much more mentally disabled. Lack of empathy makes a person a conservative, the old "I got mine and want yours" them of Republikkkanism.

Younger*

I have empathy for you. Poor gender confused old man. But please stick to the topic.

 

[Divine Wind]

Okay. But I didn't say anything about "MAGAts" and I never claimed they were conservative. Neither did I call your conservatism into question so I don't understand why you keep giving me your political resumé and defining conservatism.

Again, my remarks were specifically about the so called "downtrodden". I don't know why you're telling me all this.

Excellent! We're agreed MAGAts aren't conservative.

In order to understand what someone means when they ask "what is a conservative" or "what is a liberal", it's best to have something to contrast it against. This is standard figure-field psychological perception.

Therefore, if we want to discuss "What makes someone a conservative" it's important to contrast the "conservative" against MAGAtry, Leftists and other parts of the political spectrum.

As the chart below displays, Libertarians are further right than "conservatism" but MAGAts are "Alt-Right" AKA fascists.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Per capita, our citizens, as you well know, Ghost, commit more crimes than illegals.

Lower crime rates don’t justify open borders, every country still needs control over who enters and how many. Every single illegal is already a criminal because they entered the country illegally or overstayed their allowed time period.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Excellent! We're agreed MAGAts aren't conservative.

In order to understand what someone means when they ask "what is a conservative" or "what is a liberal", it's best to have something to contrast it against. This is standard figure-field psychological perception.

Therefore, if we want to discuss "What makes someone a conservative" it's important to contrast the "conservative" against MAGAtry, Leftists and other parts of the political spectrum.

As the chart below displays, Libertarians are further right than "conservatism" but MAGAts are "Alt-Right" AKA fascists.

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Again, calling people maggots. You’re a peach.

 

[sartre play]

How is that? Only the best qualifed: race and sex play no part.

Agree, the Best qualified, by their skill education and experience in the area
of the job they are applying for.
NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY BELONG TO YOUR FAVORITE political party.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Where did the Fed get its start-up capital in 1913?

From the banks who bought "shares".

 

[georgephillip]

From the banks who bought "shares".

Private banks?

 

[Divine Wind]

Again, calling people maggots. You’re a peach.

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You are overly sensitive. A delicate flower. I've discussed my conservative beliefs several times while all you've done is troll and name-call in violation of the rules. Why do you do this?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You are overly sensitive. A delicate flower. I've discussed my conservative beliefs several times while all you've done is troll and name-call in violation of the rules. Why do you do this?

Because you keep calling me a maggot. It’s a pejorative and not overly productive. That’s why I do this and you refuse to admit you’re doing it. Why?