What MAGA gets RIGHT and what they get WRONG

[Correll]

The way it's been done in the past has led to where we are at the present.

I don't know what the goal actually is, but this can't be it.

Maga right here. YOu got a question, I'm happy to answer it.

 

[DonGlock26]

**** yes he was. Trump really is just using his platform. I haven't actually put them side by side, but I can't think of any significant differences.

The biggest difference is that Trump can shake off the accusations of isms from teh media, but Pat, wasn't able to.


Might just be the decline in the power of the MSM, might be that Trump is just that... wonderfully dismissive of those retarded assholes.

The rise of the alt right media and Twitter/X allowing the Right to have a voice has gravely weakened the power of the Left's lie machine aka the mainstream media. Trump is also able to throw the shade right back at the Dems and their media serfs.

I'm proud to say that I voted for Pat, when I had the chance.

 

[citygator]

The average revenue has stayed mostly the same forever. High or low taxes. High taxes no investment business leave.

Your tax the rich chant has always been bs.

Less govt is the answer

MAGA didn’t give us less spending. Look at Trumps budget. It’s more spending and less tax revenue. Regardless taxes aren’t the only issue with equity. Union rules, minimum wages, benefit cuts are just a dose.

 

[Correll]

The rise of the alt right media and Twitter/X allowing the Right to have a voice has gravely weakened the power of the Left's lie machine aka the mainstream media. Trump is also to throw the shade right back at the Dems and their media serfs.

I'm proud to say that I voted for Pat, when I had the chance.

Me too.

I hope he is... aware enough to know what is happening and to appreciate it.

 

[eagle1462010]

MAGA didn’t give us less spending. Look at Trumps budget. It’s more spending and less tax revenue. Regardless taxes aren’t the only issue with equity. Union rules, minimum wages, benefit cuts are just a dose.

Blah blah blah.

I dont wanna hear no whining from the left on spending.

Please spare me the bs.

 

[Correll]

1. Schools are local and reflect local communities. Oklahoma has mandated bibles and is passing all kinds of right wing propagandist rules. You really think Oklahoma schools are packed with liberals? If you do you are crazy.

Education is dominated by libs. And by and large they are happy to use, to ABUSE their power and authority to push indoctrination.

That you choose to lie about this, or cite some cherry picked examples of our feeble pushback, is noted and held against you.

The fact remains. "teachers" is not maga being dum, but maga being right.

2. If you aren’t hate speaking why would you be worried about being accused of it?

Because, as you well know, "hate speech" is HIGHLY subjective.

That was you playing dumb, to avoid admitting that, again, MAGA is right to complete about "Gays".

You are continuing to decline from your strong start, and faster and faster.

3. You are angry. You think of me, 100% an American who has worked more hours than anyone you know building a successful career into the top 1% as some enemy because I think tax rates are upside down. Or that I am more accepting of people’s personal choices. That’s insane. I have your money. Not immigrants.

Your personal success is not a problem for me. If it is a result of your hard work, as you claim, then I celebrate it.

Your support of policies that hurt me and mine, is what makes you my enemy.

Nothing in yoru post addressed my counter points about how immigrants are an economic and political problem.


Thus those points stand. MOre than stand, as you ran away from them, that is an implict admission that in your own mind, they win.

here it is again. Perhaps you should admit I am right here, and try to honestly justify your support of these policies anyway.

Immigrants flood the labor market with cheap labor, driving down wages. This is a known fact. Your denial of this is dumb. Also, they are a political and cultural problem as they are increasingly hostile to AMERICA, as we have seen in the riots in california. YOu are denying reality and being an insulting asshole in the process. remember this, when you feel a desire to whine about how harsh and merciless maga is being.

 

[citygator]

Education is dominated by libs. And by and large they are happy to use, to ABUSE their power and authority to push indoctrination.

That you choose to lie about this, or cite some cherry picked examples of our feeble pushback, is noted and held against you.

The fact remains. "teachers" is not maga being dum, but maga being right.




Because, as you well know, "hate speech" is HIGHLY subjective.

That was you playing dumb, to avoid admitting that, again, MAGA is right to complete about "Gays".

You are continuing to decline from your strong start, and faster and faster.




Your personal success is not a problem for me. If it is a result of your hard work, as you claim, then I celebrate it.

Your support of policies that hurt me and mine, is what makes you my enemy.

Nothing in yoru post addressed my counter points about how immigrants are an economic and political problem.


Thus those points stand. MOre than stand, as you ran away from them, that is an implict admission that in your own mind, they win.

here it is again. Perhaps you should admit I am right here, and try to honestly justify your support of these policies anyway.

Immigrants flood the labor market with cheap labor, driving down wages. This is a known fact. Your denial of this is dumb. Also, they are a political and cultural problem as they are increasingly hostile to AMERICA, as we have seen in the riots in california. YOu are denying reality and being an insulting asshole in the process. remember this, when you feel a desire to whine about how harsh and merciless maga is being.

Your threats are of no consequence. You magas have zero power to negatively impact my life. Are you going to drive Trump to cut my taxes even more? Are you going to increase my bonus more by lowering my corporate taxes? Scary. Keep on fighting for me. I appreciate it.

if you think middle class wages will increase in America from less farm labor you are insane. No one is in the middle class today from a laborer wage.

How does any of this xenophobic homophobia race rage by the right improve middle class wages? It doesn’t. Meat to distract the rubes. I don’t mind they make me money. Keep at it.

 

[Correll]

Your threats are of no consequence. You magas have zero power to negatively impact my life.

We have the power to remake America in our image and we are doing it.

So.... yeah. My point was clearly in that context. I assume you pretended to not understand that so you could talk tough.

Are you going to drive Trump to cut my taxes even more? Are you going to increase my bonus more by lowering my corporate taxes? Scary. Keep on fighting for me. I appreciate it.

SO, instead of addressing my actual points, you do this....

Well, I guess that shows that, again, my points are too strong for you to even try to go against.

if you think middle class wages will increase in America from less farm labor you are insane.

That you have to pretend illegal or immigrant labor is restricted to farms at this point is just you lying to avoid admitting that I am right and that your partisan spin on MAGA was b.s.

It would be better for you personally and modern liberalism in general, if you could admit how well maga is doing.


Facing reality is the first step to dealing with a problem. ANd the modern left has big problems.

No one is in the middle class today from a laborer wage.

Which doesn't address anything I said, and yet, also, is untrue.

I saw two landscaping trucks yesterday. Very big and new trucks, with professional lettering. The second was driven by an old black guy wearing an odd straw hat. He looked pretty smug and happy.

I don't see an landscaping crew having a designated driver. I could see a successful landscaper, driving around his crew and bossing them, while he sips ice tea and collects the profits.

And if that was his crew, then I would say he at least was middle class. Maybe verging on upper middle class.

How does any of this xenophobic homophobia

phobia is an irrational fear. I have explained clearly and rationally my opposition to third world immigration and you have failed to address any of my points about it.

YOu are failing to defend your positions.

race

Buddy. We are done with your magic word. All that does now is tell us that you hate us and are our enemy not our political rival.

And thus, that we need to destroy you. mercilessly.

rage by the right improve middle class wages? It doesn’t. Meat to distract the rubes. I don’t mind they make me money. Keep at it.

I've explained how. YOu ahve failed to address it.

Also, I like that you are trying to move the goal posts to the "MIDDLE CLASS", when my discussion was more of the WORKING CLASS, which includes large portions of hte poor and working poor.

So... yeah, every evasion you do, is an implict admission that you know MAGA arguments adn policies are actually CORRECT.


MAGA baby.

 

[Mac-7]

For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase.

Blame immigration - both legal and illegal - for much of that

Too many low income foreigners creating a surplus in the job market

Combined with the export of manufacturing jobs to china and mexico

Our political and private sector leaders did little or nothing to protect the working class

 

[Correll]

Blame immigration - both legal and illegal - for much of that

Too many low income foreigners creating a surplus in the job market

citygator is pretending to not understand that. Well, he sort of admitting it, but then he keeps making hte argument that maga has to be racist to be anti-immigratin.

Combined with the export of manufacturing jobs to china and mexico

Our political and private sector leaders did little or nothing to protect the working class

 

[Mac-7]

citygator is pretending to not understand that. Well, he sort of admitting it, but then he keeps making hte argument that maga has to be racist to be anti-immigratin.

Sometimes I think we may have the worst education system in the civilized world

Too many libs simply dont know what they dont know

 

[dblack]

We have the power to remake America in our image and we are doing it.

Kinda like Dems wanted to "transform" America? That didn't work out so well for them. Turns out Americans can be pretty stubborn, and don't much like being "transformed".

 

[Mac1958]

Kinda like Dems wanted to "transform" America? That didn't work out so well for them. Turns out Americans can be pretty stubborn, and don't much like being "transformed".

Why the parties still don't understand that remains a mystery.

 

[Correll]

Sometimes I think we may have the worst education system in the civilized world

Too many libs simply dont know what they dont know

I think it is more that they know they have to lie, to advance their lefty agenda.

They know that their policies and ideas are BAD FOR AMERICANS,

but they don't care. BUt they know that they have to get the votes of Americans to have political power.


SO, they lie and play dumb. More and more every day.

 

[Correll]

Kinda like Dems wanted to "transform" America? That didn't work out so well for them. Turns out Americans can be pretty stubborn, and don't much like being "transformed".

Depends on the changes being made.

A change for the BETTER, will be received differently than a change for the WORSE.


D'uh.

 

[BrokeLoser]

What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.

Is wealth inequality leading to a class war?

In the past four decades, the gap between rich and poor has grown significantly. It’s a dangerous trend.

www.vox.com

Anti-immigration: The rise of Trump and MAGA populism in the USA | www.devissues.nl

www.devissues.nl

Nah…it’s far simpler.
MAGA knows diversity is destroying us, MAGA seeks to unwind all the destruction, decay and degradation caused by diversity.

 

[Mac-7]

I think it is more that they know they have to lie, to advance their lefty agenda.

They know that their policies and ideas are BAD FOR AMERICANS,

but they don't care. BUt they know that they have to get the votes of Americans to have political power.


SO, they lie and play dumb. More and more every day.

If you tell little children from birth that America is an evil racist nation dont be surprised if they grow up to believe that we deserve any bad thing that happens to us

 

[dblack]

Depends on the changes being made.

Not really. The issue is with using the government to force such change. People don't like being told how to live, regardless of whether Ds or Rs are doing the telling.

 

[sartre play]

BLAME BLAME BLAME, Anything but admitting that neither party works for us.
They just pick out personal social issues that are popular USE them.
Ignore the important issues that effect all our lives, No matter what party you like.

 

[citygator]

Nah…it’s far simpler.
MAGA knows diversity is destroying us, MAGA seeks to unwind all the destruction, decay and degradation caused by diversity.

Explain please.