What MAGA gets RIGHT and what they get WRONG

Another victim of the isms. Was 1950’s America a Marxist dream? We had a much higher top tier tax back then.
It kind of was. You had government basically claiming all wealth (90%) as theirs. Of course no one actually paid that rate. Congress was ready, willing and able to provide exemptions, incentives, rebates etc to those with enough lobbying clout.

That's the "dream" of socialism, to convert economic struggle into political struggle.
 
What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything

Employers have played that game for a hundred years

When workers complain

Blame immigrants for their struggles
Tell them that unions are the enemy
Warn that raising pay will make them lose their jobs

MAGA embraces it
 
I guess the OP never heard tell of The Gilded Age.

Much of the dem's power today can trace it's roots to the corrupt political machines of that era. Only the names and skin color has changed in the cities under their control.

Todays uber-rich tech moguls, hedge fund managers, etc., are just the railroad, steel, and oil magnates of yesterday.
 
Well said. I am impressed.
Thanks for the thoughtful response and holding the name calling to only a few spots
1979? Interesting date. I wonder what major policies were changed that led to the change in trends? Maybe that is where you are going?




But, MAGA has not "Scapegoated" immigrants. Flooding the labor pool, with third world labor is a real strategy by the political elite to lower wages.

Hell, they are OPENLY admitting that, in this current debate. I have constantly seen libs arguing that deporting illegals will raises labor costs, both in media and here in this site online.

SO, not only are you wrong here, but you are insulting MAGA for being dumb, based on you being dumb. That is annoying.

And it is the type of arrogance asshole-ness we working class whites have been getting for our entire lives from lying assholes like you.

Consider that when you wonder why we are so harsh with you and people like you, or even your political allies.
Look, we can argue over whether immigrant labor is beneficial because it keeps things affordable for the working class or whether immigrants steals working class jobs in the fields - which I think you have a tough hill to climb there - but we can agree they don’t drain the working class of material earnings. I mean, where are the rich immigrants?
The danger of marxism, or just the general far left is real. The violent riots of the Trump years, show that, as does the rise of an admitted marxist to be the dem mayor candidate in NYC.
I’ve posted here the receipts that almost all people killed in blm riots were by right wingers or non-protest violence. Click that link to the details.
When people like that, people like you, get real control, it AT LEAST, comes with mass murder, and quite often, full blow genocides.

Not to mention totalitarian oppression of those lucky enough to not just be murdered.
Again click the link.
SO, your... yeah, I'm afraid of the violent and hateful far left.

Hell on this site, I've regularly had lefties like yourself darkly hint at me and people like me "dying out" or being "culled".


So, yeah. Dumbass.
Silly nonsense. Links to all the right wing murders that are the vast majority (90%-ish) of political murders:

Murders by right wing nuts make up almost all political violence

It is amusing that in the portion of your post on SOLUTIONS, you don't actualy offer any.

Deporting illegals, reducing immigration, reduces SUPPLY of labor, to increase wages. Lefties have admitted that.

Tariffs will encourage AMERICAN jobs. Leading to more demand.

Americans don’t want to work in factories

Ending DIVERSITY, will reduce and hopefully, eventually eliminate anti-white discrimination in jobs, promotions, and education, to help white workers get ahead. NOt to mention just better quality service and products thoughout society.
No evidence whites are struggling or discriminated against. I’d like to see that data.
You started out strong, but immediately ran into a wall. THe wall is the fact that your agenda is hostile to the insterests of America and Americans.


Hard to sell your agenda when that is the case.
You started off strong then fell of after the nice job compliment. Lol
 
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I guess the OP never heard tell of The Gilded Age.

Much of the dem's power today can trace it's roots to the corrupt political machines of that era. Only the names and skin color has changed in the cities under their control.

Todays uber-rich tech moguls, hedge fund managers, etc., are just the railroad, steel, and oil magnates of yesterday.
Meh. You’re right this isn’t the first time the wealthy have had outsized influence but Citizens United took us to a whole new level.

None of that addresses that here we are. The wealthy telling us how bad it is for them not to contribute more to our country economically.
 
This is a case study from maxdeath.

He really believes the poor are taking all the money and peddling the idea the rich might run out of money. I’ll bold those parts in his post I quoted.

The rest of his post attacks this scapegoats. Teachers, gays, immigrants. Three-ball-monte working on him.

1.Teachers are pushing lefty politics in the classroom. We see this all the time. YOur denial is...more than dumb, it is you being an insulting asshole. Consider that when you wonder why we are so angry with you.


2. "gays", have become part of the bully mob. They have power by the tactic of using accusations of homophobia or hate speech, to cost people jobs or education slots. They are increasing... abusive of this. This is part of your lefty system of control.

3. Immigrants flood the labor market with cheap labor, driving down wages. This is a known fact. Your denial of this is dumb. Also, they are a political and cultural problem as they are increasingly hostile to AMERICA, as we have seen in the riots in california. YOu are denying reality and being an insulting asshole in the process. remember this, when you feel a desire to whine about how harsh and merciless maga is being.
 
What does MAGA get right? At its core, the MAGA movement tapped into a genuine frustration: life is harder than ever for working-class Americans. Many feel priced out, underpaid, and increasingly marginalized—this disillusionment is the one thing the movement accurately identifies. Inequality has deepened dramatically over the decades, with the bottom earners barely moving compared to the soaring gains at the top. For instance, between 1979 and 2007, the top 1% saw their after-tax earnings grow by 275%, while the bottom 20% only saw an 18% increase. Prices haven’t grown in the same manner so we are looking at the first generation to pass a worse standard of living to their children.

What does MAGA get wrong? Well, everything else. The movement fundamentally misdiagnosed who’s to blame. Instead of pointing to real structural forces causing the loss in power, it turns working-class discontent toward scapegoats—immigrants, welfare recipients—narratives amplified by wealthy leaders who benefit from the status quo. Trump and other elites deploy this rhetoric to deflect blame while implementing policies—like tax cuts and deregulation—that tilt further in favor of the already affluent. It’s a sleight of hand, three-ball-monte, grift that the working class cant see coming. “Where did the ball go?” They’ll ask in memorized stupor.

What is the truth? In truth, data overwhelmingly shows that the real crisis is wealth consolidation at the very top. The bottom half of Americans own barely a sliver of the nation’s wealth—just 2.5%—while the top 10% control over two-thirds. Because that concentration suppresses wages, narrows mobility, and widens inequality, it hurts working families far more than immigrants or welfare recipients ever could. The wealthy in the GOP have successfully labeled any attempt to dismantle the structural advantage the wealthy have bought through congressional influence as “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, “wokeism”, or any number of scary sounding words that end in “ism” to keep the working class off the trail.

What is the solution? The working class needs to wake the **** up or live mired in its worsening status as the wealthy continue to gobble up everything. We are in a bifurcated or two level economy today. The wealthy and big corps are killing it while the consumer is struggling. We will see if they get around to diagnosing their problem or whether they continue to play into it and follow the Trumpian pied piper to blaming brown people, immigrants, and the poor. As if they have all the money.



Why do Demcorats keep voting for Nancy Pelosi?


 
The problem isn't one's general position on a given issue. The problem is the way the issue is addressed.

Over-reaction, over-compensation and over-correction aren't viable long term solutions. They just open the door to the opposition because they usually go too far.

Not sure how this country still hasn't learned that.
 
Another victim of the isms. Was 1950’s America a Marxist dream? We had a much higher top tier tax back then.

While the top marginal tax rate reached 91% in the 1950's, fewer than 10,000 households actually paid that amount. Because of numerous deductions, exemptions and loopholes, the top tier actually paid about 42-45%.
 
1.Teachers are pushing lefty politics in the classroom. We see this all the time. YOur denial is...more than dumb, it is you being an insulting asshole. Consider that when you wonder why we are so angry with you.


2. "gays", have become part of the bully mob. They have power by the tactic of using accusations of homophobia or hate speech, to cost people jobs or education slots. They are increasing... abusive of this. This is part of your lefty system of control.

3. Immigrants flood the labor market with cheap labor, driving down wages. This is a known fact. Your denial of this is dumb. Also, they are a political and cultural problem as they are increasingly hostile to AMERICA, as we have seen in the riots in california. YOu are denying reality and being an insulting asshole in the process. remember this, when you feel a desire to whine about how harsh and merciless maga is being.
1. Schools are local and reflect local communities. Oklahoma has mandated bibles and is passing all kinds of right wing propagandist rules. You really think Oklahoma schools are packed with liberals? If you do you are crazy.

2. If you aren’t hate speaking why would you be worried about being accused of it?

3. You are angry. You think of me, 100% an American who has worked more hours than anyone you know building a successful career into the top 1% as some enemy because I think tax rates are upside down. Or that I am more accepting of people’s personal choices. That’s insane. I have your money. Not immigrants.
 
Thanks for the thoughtful response and holding the name calling to only a few spots

Look, we can argue over whether immigrant labor is beneficial because it keeps things affordable for the working class or whether immigrants steals working class jobs in the fields - which I think you have a tough hill to climb there - but we can agree they don’t drain the working class of material earnings. I mean, where are the rich immigrants?

Huh. That's a nice admission that the issue is more nuanced than "scapegoating".

So, why did you open with "scapegoating" when you admit immediately that there is a valid argument on the other side?






I’ve posted here the receipts that almost all people killed in blm riots were by right wingers or non-protest violence. Click that link to the details.

Buddy, I 've looked at those numbers before. I stopped digging when I ran into the bit where they only counted ONLY formally registered member of far left groups adn lefties, AND lumped ALL criminals in with right wing prison gangs.


This... meme,, is some of the worst far left shit talk, I have seen in decades.

You don't have the credibility to get me to click and link and check to see if something changed. So....



Do you seriously not understand teh way that labor flows from sector to sector?

I live in a rust belt city. I've run into former steel workers, in several fields. You get a steel worker who loses his job, he goes elsewhere. And he competes hard.

This reduces opportunties, even for those that would never had considered factory work.

This can, and WILL work in the other direct too, if we can make it work. Those that are willing to take those jobs, some of them WILL.

This will reduce people going into other fields, reducing the labor pool of THOSE jobs, giving more leverage to workers there.

Especially if we deport illegals, and/or reduce legal immigration at teh same time.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5347049-trump-manufacturing-jobs-economy/
No evidence whites are struggling or discriminated against. I’d like to see that data.

Classic lib dishonesty. YOu counter complaints of anti-white racist discrimination in jobs, which you supoprt as a policy by comparing GROUPS, knowing that black community dysfunciton will hide the impact of your pro-black racist discrimination.


It is one of the more clever lib tactics.

Which is not saying much, when most lib tactics boil down to name calling.


You started off strong then fell of after the nice job compliment. Lol

NO, I didn't. YOu did.
 
Another victim of the isms. Was 1950’s America a Marxist dream? We had a much higher top tier tax back then.
The average revenue has stayed mostly the same forever. High or low taxes. High taxes no investment business leave.

Your tax the rich chant has always been bs.

Less govt is the answer
 
The problem isn't one's general position on a given issue. The problem is the way the issue is addressed.

Over-reaction, over-compensation and over-correction aren't viable long term solutions. They just open the door to the opposition because they usually go too far.

Not sure how this country still hasn't learned that.
“This is no time for the tranquilizing drug of gradualism” -Martin Luther King Jr

Injustices shouldn’t need to warm up over a century my friend, no matter how discomforting it may be.
 
The problem isn't one's general position on a given issue. The problem is the way the issue is addressed.

Over-reaction, over-compensation and over-correction aren't viable long term solutions. They just open the door to the opposition because they usually go too far.

Not sure how this country still hasn't learned that.


Peasant revolts are by their nature, "violent".

If you wanted more nuanced policies and actions, you should have moved on these issues when you had that chance.


If Patrick Buchanan had won in the 90s, this would have gone smoother.

BUt your side called him racist, until he went away.

But the issues didn't go away. The working class white voters didn't go away.


This is your choice. I wanted to address these issues in the 90s, when success would have been much easier and less painful.


YOU made us wait 30 years, not me.
 
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Peasant revolts are by their nature, "violent".

If you wanted more nuanced policies and actions, you should have moved on these issues when you had that chance.


If Patrick Buchanan had won in the 90s, this would have gone smoother.

BUt your side called him racist, until he went away.

But the issues didn't go away. The working class white voters didn't go away.


This is your choice. I wanted to address these issues in the 90s, when success would have been much easier and less painful.


YOU made us wait 30 years, not me.

Pat was right. Mac is an admitted Obama voter.
 
“This is no time for the tranquilizing drug of gradualism” -Martin Luther King Jr

Injustices shouldn’t need to warm up over a century my friend, no matter how discomforting it may be.

Your side is the one that has been pushing the injustices, since the 60s.

And before that, your side was pushing jim crow....

interesting. YOu have always been teh bad guys.
 
“This is no time for the tranquilizing drug of gradualism” -Martin Luther King Jr

Injustices shouldn’t need to warm up over a century my friend, no matter how discomforting it may be.
The way it's been done in the past has led to where we are at the present.

I don't know what the goal actually is, but this can't be it.
 
Pat was right. Mac is an admitted Obama voter.

**** yes he was. Trump really is just using his platform. I haven't actually put them side by side, but I can't think of any significant differences.

The biggest difference is that Trump can shake off the accusations of isms from teh media, but Pat, wasn't able to.


Might just be the decline in the power of the MSM, might be that Trump is just that... wonderfully dismissive of those retarded assholes.
 
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