What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?

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This is Trumpcare.


Still, what started out as an effort to energize Republican voters for the 2018 midterms after Congress failed to "repeal and replace" the health law in 2017 could end up throwing the nation's entire health system into chaos.

At least 20 million Americans — and likely many more who sought coverage since the start of the coronavirus pandemic — who buy insurance through the ACA marketplaces or have Medicaid through the law's expansion could lose health coverage right away. Many millions more would lose the law's popular protections that guarantee coverage for people with preexisting health conditions, including those who have had COVID-19.

Adult children under age 26 would no longer be guaranteed the right to remain on their parents' health plans, and Medicare patients would lose enhanced prescription drug coverage. Women would lose guaranteed access to birth control at no out-of-pocket cost.

But a sudden elimination would affect more than just patients. Insurance companies, drug companies, hospitals and doctors all have changed the way they do business because of incentives and penalties in the health law. If it's struck down, many of the "rules of the road" would be wiped away, including billing and payment mechanisms.

A new Democratic president could not drop the lawsuit, because the Trump administration is not the plaintiff (the GOP attorneys general are). But a Democratic Congress and president could in theory make the entire issue go away by reinstating the penalty for failure to have insurance, even at a minimal amount. For now, however, nothing is a sure thing as far as the health law goes.
Fascinating...how many Rs do you actually know who have discussed that with you?
No need for discussion. This IS the de facto healthcare plan they have set in motion.
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
Jobs where the employer pays for your health care.
Like we had before GW's 2nd term.
Unfortunately the trend is actually heading away from that with more and more employees classified as “independent contractors”.
independent contractors = Rs and Ds with brains.
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
Jobs where the employer pays for your health care.
Like we had before GW's 2nd term.
Unfortunately the trend is actually heading away from that with more and more employees classified as “independent contractors”.
independent contractors = Rs and Ds with brains.
Not necessarily.
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
Americans were better off before Obamacare.
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
Typical Democrats - f* up / destroyed the healthcare system and then demands someone else fix it.

Its like the captain of the Exon Valdeez blaming and demanding the clean-up crew fix the oil spill.
 

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Simple: Trump will replace the ACA (Obama-care) with his own fav program: "ICCL: I Could Care Less"

Hell after over 70 congressional votes and two major USSC rulings to keep it alive and working, Trump now thinks his "plan" ICCL, will cut the proverbial mustard - or in his historical record one huge pile of horse sh*t as it were.

BTW: Trump announced in July via FOX of course that he would be signing an ACA replacement w/in two weeks ... oops.
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
Americans were better off before Obamacare.
BS - 100% BS
 

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Simple: Trump will replace the ACA (Obama-care) with his own fav program: "ICCL: I Could Care Less"

Hell after over 70 congressional votes and two major USSC rulings to keep it alive and working, Trump now thinks his "plan" ICCL, will cut the proverbial mustard - or in his historical record one huge pile of horse sh*t as it were.

BTW: Trump announced in July via FOX of course that he would be signing an ACA replacement w/in two weeks ... oops.
He did not specify a year, lol
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
Trump is a liar he said repeatedly he has a health plan ready, many times he said he will reveal it in few days or couple of weeks. But his followers will find an excuse as usual.
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
As was mentioned elsewhere on the board, one of the biggest mistakes people made was to refer to Obamacare as socialist when it was nothing of the sort. It was patently fascist, but is was mislabeled as socialism. Obamacare extended government control over health care via mandates, regulations, and subsidies. It forced people to purchase/consume products and services from private industry at the barrel of a government gun. And the industry lobbyists penned the legislation.

Trump administration would do the same exact thing. It will extend government control over health care via mandates, regulations, and subsidies. It will mandate people to purchase/consume products and services like intrusive medical procedures from private industry at the barrel of a government gun. Again, there's nothing socialist about it. It is patently fascist. A mirror image of Obamacare.

What do you think all of this face diaper nonense is about? And all of the social distancing and tracing. It's about the feds aquiring power they do not currently have. It's about aquiring the power to take control over and mandate all of your medical descisions. It's wha tit's always been about. Consider it an active drill being run to see just how gullible the electorate is to just accept it like they did with the patriot act. Which they are doing. Everyone's just going along with it.

Really, you'd think that by now Americans would at least be a little bit perceptive. That they'd learn from history. It's sad.
 
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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
As was mentioned elsewhere on the board, one of the biggest mistakes people made was to refer to Obamacare as socialist when it was nothing of the sort. It was patently fascist, but is was mislabeled as socialism. Obamacare extended government control over health care via mandates, regulations, and subsidies. It forced people to purchase/consume products and services from private industry at the barrel of a government gun. And the industry lobbyists penned the legislation.

Trump administration would do the same exact thing. It will extend government control over health care via mandates, regulations, and subsidies. It will mandate people to purchase/consume products and services like intrusive medical procedures from private industry at the barrel of a government gun. Again, there's nothing socialist about it. It is patently fascist. A mirror image of Obamacare.

What do you think all of this face diaper nonense is about? And all of the social distancing and tracing. It's about the feds aquiring power they do not currently have. It's about aquiring the power to take control over and mandate all of your medical descisions. It's wha tit's always been about. Consider it an active drill being run to see just how gullible the electorate is to just accept it like they did with the patriot act. Which they are doing. Everyone's just going along with it.

Really, you'd think that by now Americans would at least be a little bit perceptive. That they'd learn from history. It's sad.
You babbling far righ wing non-sense. You are an idiot. No need to converse with idiocy.
 
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And the federal government has no business being involved in healthcare. It's a free-market issue.

Here's why...

The free market does not belong in healthcare. Free market will put priority on profits over care. When profits are maximized high risk individuals (pre-existing conditions) are cut out you lose money on them. Just like auto insurance cuts out people with bad driving records or charges them an arm and leg.
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
Trump is a liar he said repeatedly he has a health plan ready, many times he said he will reveal it in few days or couple of weeks. But his followers will find an excuse as usual.
Don't care. Poor people have Medicaid. People who work have healthcare plans. What are you whining about?
 

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With Trumpcare, which covers existing conditions, and actually is affordable...
Where is Trumpcare except words from Trump.
There is no legislation after 4 years.
He's been busy. And the left has tried to block him at every turn. Give him back the House and we'll get our healthcare at a reasonable price.
You had the House for two years.

Zero healthcare.
You remember some asshole named McCain? You thought he was satan back in 2008. Suddenly he achieved sainthood from the left for stopping the progress Trump was working on. Your healthcare sucks ass today because of obie, the democrats and McCain. With some Roberts thrown in as well.
 

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And the federal government has no business being involved in healthcare. It's a free-market issue.

Here's why...


We had a free market approach before Obamacare.

Women had to pay higher premiums, being a woman was a preexisting condition in some cases. Birth control was only covered if there was a medical reason, not for contraception. There were caps put on health care policies so if a person got a serious condition, they ran out of care because they reached the cap. Insurance companies could drop you for any reason they wanted and could deny a claim pretty much for any reason they wanted.

The so called free market approach caused a small handful of health insurance companies to carved up the nation and set their own rates. They took at the minimum 30% of your premiums and put it in their own pockets. Then turned around and denied to pay your claims with the money you gave them.

The problems with the "free market" approach are way too many to list in a message box but what it comes down to is that 45 thousand Americans died needless early deaths each year in our nation because of the "free market" approach to health insurance.

By the way, there is no such thing as a free market. Unregulated capitalism causes monopolies. Which crush competition, innovation and so called "free markets." Also our constitution requires tariffs and taxes on imported goods. It also gives the government the power to regulate commerce. You might want to read that document.
 

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And the federal government has no business being involved in healthcare. It's a free-market issue.

Here's why...


We had a free market approach before Obamacare.

Women had to pay higher premiums, being a woman was a preexisting condition in some cases. Birth control was only covered if there was a medical reason, not for contraception. There were caps put on health care policies so if a person got a serious condition, they ran out of care because they reached the cap. Insurance companies could drop you for any reason they wanted and could deny a claim pretty much for any reason they wanted.

The so called free market approach caused a small handful of health insurance companies to carved up the nation and set their own rates. They took at the minimum 30% of your premiums and put it in their own pockets. Then turned around and denied to pay your claims with the money you gave them.

The problems with the "free market" approach are way too many to list in a message box but what it comes down to is that 45 thousand Americans died needless early deaths each year in our nation because of the "free market" approach to health insurance.

By the way, there is no such thing as a free market. Unregulated capitalism causes monopolies. Which crush competition, innovation and so called "free markets." Also our constitution requires tariffs and taxes on imported goods. It also gives the government the power to regulate commerce. You might want to read that document.
We haven't had a free-market in decades, Dana. Crap of it is that it won't be until after that critical fact is recognized and understood collectively as being the premise of our problems that the electorate's light bulb might go off and they'll maybe realize that talking points and arguments are completely out of context with the reality of the situation.
 

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What is Trump going to replace Obama care with?
Trump promised a bigger and better healthcare system to replace Obamacare. It has been almost 4 years but there is nothing to replace Obamacare.
The chances are Obamacare will be eliminated by SCOTUS soon.
No Obamacare we lose
guaranteed coverage based on preexisting conditions
Millions would lose their coverage
Children could not stay on their parents coverage until 25
Private insurance would not be held to minimal coverage
Medicare reduced prices for medications

What is Trump going to replace Obamacare with, 4 years and NOTHING!
Not much he can do because the House won’t even vote on anything to replace Obamacare.
 

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I 'll tell you what, though, Dana, if I ever start one of those invite only threads, which I probably won't because they're freakin gey so far, but if I do, I'll surely invite you to the pow wow. I liked the way you responded there.
 

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