What is the legality of Trump's National Guard actions?

[Rigby5]

Nope, that's the whole point of nationalizing the guard, you dumb ****.

The "Insurrection act" is what created the part of title 10 in question, you dumb ****.

Title 10 is to suppress insurrections, which do not exist.
ICE is in violation of the law by not following due process, so the population is then authorized to arrest ICE.
So its no insurrection.

 

[BackAgain]

ICE agents have no more authority to arrest than your uncle does.
It is only judicial arrest warrants issued by judges that legally authorize anyone to be detained or deported.
ICE has ZERO authority to detain anyone on their own.
Everyone has the authority to arrest ICE when they try to detain anyone without a judicial warrant.

Law and order is based on the defense of inherent rights.
The undocumented harm no one.
It is ICE who is doing ALL the HARM!
The way ICE is operating in totally contrary to the principles of a republic.

No judicial arrest warrant is required to arrest an illegal alien.

Try to get your facts straight before barfing anll over the Board.

 

[Rigby5]

No it’s exploiting them. You sound just like the old confederates defending slavery saying how it’s good for them

Pathetic

Wrong.
Low paid but self employed work is vastly preferable to the awful jobs many people are forced to take.

 

[BackAgain]

Title 10 is to suppress insurrections, which do not exist.
ICE is in violation of the law by not following due process, so the population is then authorized to arrest ICE.
So its no insurrection.

Very very wrong. Dangerously so.

Quit while you’re just behind.

 

[Rigby5]

Wrong. You exclude other considerations.

Why is that?

What other considerations could there be?
The raids, arrests, and deportation are harmful, therefore require judicial due process to ensure they are necessary and justified.
Like incorrectly sending innocents to mega prisons in El Salvador.

 

[drudge X]

There is no law that requires anyone to be deported.
This country is almost all descendants of illegal immigrants.

Every country has the right to set its immigration law.

 

[drudge X]

What other considerations could there be?
The raids, arrests, and deportation are harmful, therefore require judicial due process to ensure they are necessary and justified.
Like incorrectly sending innocents to mega prisons in El Salvador.

None of this would be happening had Biden didn’t leave the border free for all.

 

[BackAgain]

What other considerations could there be?
The raids, arrests, and deportation are harmful, therefore require judicial due process to ensure they are necessary and justified.
Like incorrectly sending innocents to mega prisons in El Salvador.

First of all, you ignorant lemming, do you acknowledge that a non judicial ICE official can issue a warrant to arrest an illegal alien?

More later. But let’s start with just that.

 

[Rigby5]

No judicial arrest warrant is required to arrest an illegal alien.

Try to get your facts straight before barfing anll over the Board.

WRONG!
The person cannot be determined to be an illegal alien by ICE, and can only have that determination done by judicial due process.

 

[drudge X]

WRONG!
The person cannot be determined to be an illegal alien by ICE, and can only have that determination done by judicial due process.

Are you really this clueless?

 

[Rigby5]

None of this would be happening had Biden didn’t leave the border free for all.

I do not like Biden, but immigration is a way to boost the economy after the covid recession.

 

[Rigby5]

First of all, you ignorant lemming, do you acknowledge that a non judicial ICE official can issue a warrant to arrest an illegal alien?

More later. But let’s start with just that.

Wrong.
Only a judge can issue a warrant for a raid, arrest, or deportation.
It is not just a question of knowing the law, but of impartiality, conducting hearings for defense counsel, etc.
The person is not an "illegal alien" until a judge sees the evidence and makes the ruling.
That is the whole point of the 5th amendment.
Otherwise no one would be safe from being convicted of crimes without trial.

 

[BackAgain]

WRONG!
The person cannot be determined to be an illegal alien by ICE, and can only have that determination done by judicial due process.

So you simply don’t know a thing about the law on immigration.

Just as we all thought.

You are flatly wrong.

https://immigrantjustice.org/sites/default/files/content-type/page/documents/2025-01/Castanon-Nava_training_slides_2025-01-16-english.pdf

More importantly, try reading the LAW:

8 U.S. Code § 1357 - Powers of immigration officers and employees

www.law.cornell.edu

Beyond that, stfu, sit down and allow your appalling ignorance to be corrected with facts, law and honesty.

 

[drudge X]

I do not like Biden, but immigration is a way to boost the economy after the covid recession.

Bullshit. Legal immigration yes. Open border, nope. GTFO.

 

[Rigby5]

Are you really this clueless?

Enforcement agents can never determine guilt.
All they can do is press charges and show their evidence.

 

[BackAgain]

Enforcement agents can never determine guilt.
All they can do is press charges and show their evidence.

Issuing the warrant is an administrative determination.

Try to follow along, dumb ass.

 

[OKTexas]

Terry stops are illegal in my opinion, but the SCOTUS calls them legal only if they are based on a "reasonable suspicion" of a crime. That requires some sort of actual evidence and not just a made up opinion based on ethnicity.
The Home Depot parking lot raids clearly are not valid because there is nothing to indicate those looking for work in Home Depot parking lots are not citizens.

As you've probably realized by now, your opinion doesn't count for very much. Suspicion is a reason to investigate, to seek evidence. If they already had evidence, there would be no suspicion. just detention. And you obviously have never worked in the construction industry, there's a 98% probably that folks looking for day labor at Home Depot are likely here illegally. Any more gaslighting you'd like to do?

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[OKTexas]

There is no welfare in the US except ADC and disability, so immigrants can't become "a drain on the treasury".

But you are forgetting that when the US imposes illegal economic sanctions, like we do on Cuba, Venezuela, Syria, etc., that we force those people to become political refugees and cannot then deny them asylum.

Wrong again oh ignorant one, 150.7 billion and counting, and that was a year ago.

The Cost of the Border Crisis: $150.7 Billion and Counting | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

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[Nobody911]

U.S. citizens should not be used as political tools to achieve victory. Politicians from both parties should not act as puppet masters. Americans are not puppets, right?

The U.S. National Guard consists of both Army National Guard and Air National Guard units. These units serve dual roles: they operate under state authority for local emergencies and can be federalized to support national defense and military operations.

### Purpose of the National Guard:

1. Emergency Response: Assisting in natural disasters, civil unrest, and search and rescue operations.

2. Military Service: Serving in combat operations or peacekeeping missions as part of the U.S. Armed Forces.

3. Community Service: Engaging in community programs, youth development, and disaster preparedness.

### Structure:

1. Army National Guard: Ground forces including infantry, artillery, engineering, and support units.

2. Air National Guard: Air support units, including fighter jets, cargo aircraft, and support services.

### Examples of Units: While specific unit names may vary by state, here are general categories of units found in the National Guard:

1. Infantry Regiments
2. Field Artillery Battalions
3. Engineer Battalions
4. Military Police Units
5. Logistics and Support Units
6. Aerospace Control Squadrons (Air National Guard)
7. Airlift Squadrons (Air National Guard)
8. Medical Units

Each state has its unique composition and structure, often influenced by local needs and missions. The National Guard plays a crucial role in both state and federal capacities, providing a versatile and ready force.

The deployment of the United States Marine Corps (USMC) or any military force to address social unrest, such as mobs or looting, is a complex issue that involves legal, ethical, and operational considerations.

Primarily, the Posse Comitatus Act restricts the use of federal military personnel in domestic law enforcement, limiting their role in civilian matters unless explicitly authorized by Congress or the Constitution.

This act aims to prevent military overreach into civilian affairs and to preserve the distinction between military and law enforcement roles.

While the National Guard can be activated for domestic emergencies, the USMC is typically not utilized for law enforcement purposes.

In situations of severe unrest, the military may be deployed in support roles, but this often involves coordination with local law enforcement agencies.

Ethically, deploying the military in domestic scenarios can escalate tensions and potentially lead to violence, undermining public trust in both military and civilian institutions.

Public sentiment often favors a community-based approach to resolving social unrest, emphasizing dialogue and non-violent intervention.

In summary, while the USMC could technically be deployed in extreme circumstances, such actions are heavily regulated, controversial, and generally avoided in favor of local law enforcement responses and community engagement.

 

[OKTexas]

The closest to being "vested with powers" is the ability to raise tax revenue.
But that is civil responsibility and not really an empowerment of government.

But John Jay is not one to believe verbatim since it seems he was fine with slavery.
{... John Jay himself purchased, owned, rented out and manumitted at least 17 slaves during his lifetime. ...}

I do not mind the Founders being a little off since they were used to total royal dictatorships.
But they were not experts on law, republics, or government in general.

First, governments have have powers, individuals have rights. Second, maybe you might want to actually read the Constitution, you appear to be completely unfamiliar with it. Typical commiecrat.

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