What is the legality of Trump's National Guard actions?

[TimFitz]

There actually is not a requirement under the law for judicial review in every deportation case. The constitution gave exclusive power to Congress to regulate it and they have, if you lion to Clinton’s immigration law and many before it, they have allowed art 2 courts to review and in many cases simply an official at State to make the review

Not all due process requires art 3 courts

The reality and what’s been exposed the past few months is many dembots have no clue what the laws are, or what due process even means

Yes, there is. immigration courts review ALL deportation cases.

Your fuhrer tried to make that exact claim and failed in court every time.

 

[TimFitz]

Wrong.
Low paid but self employed work is vastly preferable to the awful jobs many people are forced to take.

That’s what Albrego Garcia was looking for that morning he went to Home Depot.

 

[struth]

Yes, there is. immigration courts review ALL deportation cases.

Your fuhrer tried to make that exact claim and failed in court every time.

No actually the don’t

Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

Expedited Removal Explainer

Expedited removal is a process by which low-level immigration officers can quickly deport certain noncitizens who are undocumented or have committed fraud or misrepresentation.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

 

[Mac-7]

Because facists will be facists. Particularly if they can persecute minorities and enflame the already flagrant racism of the supporters of facism.

How do you describe yourself?

Are you an anarchist who wants to tear down trump’s America and rebuild it in Marx’s image?

 

[BackAgain]

Immigration has nothing to do with it.
The principles of law are that only judges can authorized harm, like confinement, lack of bail, guilt, punishment, deportation, etc.
That has to be obvious since you can't have low level ICE officers ruining people's lives.
They don't have the authority, training, impartiality, or legal knowledge.
Laws themselves often are wrong.
What counts more is the basic principles under which law can ever exist.

Wrong again. Immigration has everything to do with it. Your childish and petulant and ignorant opinions on these matters are the things that have nothing to do with the it.

Everything you’ve posted is mistaken and your claims are simply absurd and dangerous.

 

[BackAgain]

It’s been fun seeing the idiotic claims of the moron OP so totally shattered.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Here are the thoughts of a former Federal prosecutor on the legal issues with Trump's actions in Los Angeles. Will Trump next turn his ICE thugs loose on the protests on June 14? And then claim he has to invoke Martial Law because of the reaction in most major cities in the US? Are Trump supporters going to support this move from Trump to become the first dictator to rule the US?

Is Trump’s deployment of federal troops in California legal?

Under ordinary circumstances, federal troops would be deployed to aid or assist in state efforts, says Jeremy R. Paul, a professor of law.

news.northeastern.edu

Yeah?
Well ordinary circumstances you would not see a Governor siding with the rioters/looters and only finally doing his job when the optics was so bad he had to.
Remember he compared this to "the same as rioting after a sporting event"

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Also ordinary circumstance is a governor that doesn't flat out lie that he never received a call or voicemail from Trump - then the White House provides proof they spoke two days ago for 16 minutes.
Then his PR firm says "well he was talking about that day"

He understated the violence, denied it was serious at all...then when it got so bad he finally stepped up- MARGINALLY.

 

[j-mac]

Totally legal, as referenced by Newsom losing his law suit.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Totally legal, as referenced by Newsom losing his law suit.

What lawsuit did Newsom lose?

WW

 

[j-mac]

What lawsuit did Newsom lose?

WW

Federal judge refuses to block Trump's LA National Guard deployment on Newsom's timeframe

Judge Breyer sets hearing on California's lawsuit challenging Trump's federalization of National Guard amid escalating anti-ICE protests in Los Angeles

www.foxnews.com

 

[WorldWatcher]

Federal judge refuses to block Trump's LA National Guard deployment on Newsom's timeframe

Judge Breyer sets hearing on California's lawsuit challenging Trump's federalization of National Guard amid escalating anti-ICE protests in Los Angeles

www.foxnews.com

Ahhh...

Try reading the Judges order instead.

He didn't deny the TRO, he hasn't ruled on it yet. Complaint filed yesterday, DOJ response due today, hearing tomorrow at 1330.

WW
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[TimFitz]

How do you describe yourself?

Are you an anarchist who wants to tear down trump’s America and rebuild it in Marx’s image?

I am an American.

I believe in what it says in the Constitution. I believe in what we used to say what we stood for.

"that all men are created equal"

Trump's America is a facist state. Current events make that all too obvious that that is the real goal.

A dictatorship in service to big oil, venture capital and private equity, big tech, big defense, and corporations.

A facist state all too willing to victimize minority groups so that the regieme can maintain power and slide the individual rights of all American out from under them by reassuring them that the persecution is happening to the "other"

That's your vision.

You've said so many times.

Marx has nothing to do with it.

As if you actually knew anything about Marx. It's just a label to you.

 

[TimFitz]

No actually the don’t

Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

Expedited Removal Explainer

Expedited removal is a process by which low-level immigration officers can quickly deport certain noncitizens who are undocumented or have committed fraud or misrepresentation.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Here is the part you didn't read.

"This expedited procedure applied to individuals at a port of entry and those unable to prove that they had been residing in the country continuously for two years. Individuals intending to apply for asylum were exempted from this provision."

 

[Mac-7]

Trump's America is a facist state.

Thats lib hyperbole and makes you sound like a kook

 

[struth]

Here is the part you didn't read.

"This expedited procedure applied to individuals at a port of entry and those unable to prove that they had been residing in the country continuously for two years. Individuals intending to apply for asylum were exempted from this provision."

Yes I read that. Along with the part that proved you were wrong
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Hence why I posted the links

 

[TimFitz]

Yes I read that. Along with the part that proved you were wrong
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Hence why I posted the links

"At point of entry"

Which, of course, is not some random roundup in Los Angeles.

 

[TimFitz]

Thats lib hyperbole and makes you sound like a kook

Not at all.

You are openly advocating facist rule, and cheering for a man who wants to be dictator and is threatening marshal law.

You advocate using both the military and law enforcement to conduct roundups at random and persecuting anyone you determine is undesirable (based on NOTHING more than the color of their skin).

This is Germany in 1933. It should not be America in 2025.

IF standing for freedom, the rights of people, the rule of law and the Constitution make me a kook, than that's your opinion.

You are openly advocating ending American democracy and replacing it with a military dictatorship.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Not at all.
You are openly advocating facist rule,.;..

You are lying to yourself.

 

[struth]

"At point of entry"

Which, of course, is not some random roundup in Los Angeles.

Agreed, folks are just getting arrested in LA, they aren't being deported.

Geez, you dumb shit, keep digging