What is the legality of Trump's National Guard actions?

[OODA_Loop]

If you learned your Marxism on TikTok

Chances are you don't represent Production.

 

[Rigby5]

They follow or stake out the targets

Makes no sense.
If you had their address so you could follow or stake out, then you could just arrest them there.
That is not what they did.
Instead they illegally corralled dozens of anonymous people, and did illegal ID checks.

 

[Rigby5]

Yes and, not to mention undercutting wages. They are bringing their culture here and are not interested in assimilating. They come here to work and send the money back to Mexico, then their families buy property in Mexico.

While undercutting wages could be a valid concern, the reality is that people are so racist in the US that they only hire Hispanics for job no one else wants.
And their "culture" is a vast improvement.
Hispanics have much better family and community values than greed Europeans do.
Their history is tribal, social, and interpersonal.
Our European history is feudal, violent, greedy, and left by the Romans.
Some do send money back to family, but if they can get their family here, then the money stays here.

 

[Rigby5]

Bricks and Molotov cocktails are.

When a foreign national crosses the US border illegally, torches a car and then poses on it with the Mexican flag, in what sense is that not an international act of hostility? What is the message here if not, "This is Mexico now!"

Wrong.
Bricks and molotov cocktails are not being used.
But I did witness ICE deliberately shooting a journalist in the back with a rubber bullet.

 

[Rigby5]

These career anarchists will use any lie they can think of to commit mayhem

That's what they live for

Nonsense.
These people are barely able to survive on the meager employment they can scrounge up.
There are not being paid by anyone to riot.
They are rioting because of the unfair poverty that is being forced upon them.

 

[toobfreak]

Most of the rioters are citizens.

See, well, without actually sitting down one by one and running each person's SS or PID number, even the president would have no way of knowing that, so, you are colossally full of bullshit.

Rocks are not considered deadly weapons.

Then you won't mind being hit by one thrown from 40 feet above you.

 

[Rigby5]

These Marxist peckerheads are no anarchists....Real anarchists wouldn't dare act like these fucking overgrown spoiled brat children.

If you knew what Marxism is, you would be a Marxist.
That is because all Marx was concerned with was how those with a monopoly on capital can afford big mass production factories that put all the cottage industries out of business and create forced labor.
Same thing Tennessee Earnie Ford sang about with "16 tons".

 

[Oddball]

If you knew what Marxism is, you would be a Marxist.
That is because all Marx was concerned with was how those with a monopoly on capital can afford big mass production factories that put all the cottage industries out of business and create forced labor.
Same thing Tennessee Earnie Ford sang about with "16 tons".

I know what Marxism and the fuck I would be one.

 

[Oddball]

While undercutting wages could be a valid concern, the reality is that people are so racist in the US that they only hire Hispanics for job no one else wants.
And their "culture" is a vast improvement.
Hispanics have much better family and community values than greed Europeans do.
Their history is tribal, social, and interpersonal.
Our European history is feudal, violent, greedy, and left by the Romans.
Some do send money back to family, but if they can get their family here, then the money stays here.

They're just burning the cars and throwing the bricks and Molotov cocktails that Murcans don't want to!

 

[georgephillip]

How many Troops were in LA on the 5th Day of the Los Angeles Riots of 92 ?

Do you mean this riot?

"When the riots including multiple shootouts had ended, 63 people had been killed, 2,383 had been injured, more than 12,000 had been arrested, and estimates of property damage were over $1 billion, making it the most destructive period of local unrest in US history.

1992 Los Angeles riots - Wikipedia

"Koreatown, situated just to the north of South Central LA, was disproportionately damaged because of racial tensions between communities.

"Much of the blame for the extensive nature of the violence was attributed to LAPD Chief of Police Daryl Gates, who had already announced his resignation by the time of the riots, for failure to de-escalate the situation and overall mismanagement."

 

[Rigby5]

See, well, without actually sitting down one by one and running each person's SS or PID number, even the president would have no way of knowing that, so, you are colossally full of bullshit.


Then you won't mind being hit by one thrown from 40 feet above you.

How are people here illegally, who walked long distances in the desert, and afraid of being arrested and sent back, going to risk being in a public protest?

About 40% of Californians are Hispanic, and almost all Californians do not like ICE.

Bricks are too heavy to throw.
No one is above the police physically, where they could throw bricks from.

 

[Rigby5]

They're just burning the cars and throwing the bricks and Molotov cocktails that Murcans don't want to!

I saw one car on fire, and no bricks or Molotov cocktails.
Mostly what I saw was police clubbing helpless people, or shooting them illegally with rubber bullets.

 

[Oddball]

I saw one car on fire, and no bricks or Molotov cocktails.
Mostly what I saw was police clubbing helpless people, or shooting them illegally with rubber bullets.

Piss off, lying commie scum.

 

[toobfreak]

About 40% of Californians are Hispanic,

That there is an occupation, an invasion. A lot of these people do not belong here.

and almost all Californians do not like ICE.

Every Californian I know LOVES ICE.

No one is above the police physically, where they could throw bricks from.

Yeah, sure, go back to sleep off that cleaning fluid you huff.

 

[Rigby5]

Do you mean this riot?

"When the riots including multiple shootouts had ended, 63 people had been killed, 2,383 had been injured, more than 12,000 had been arrested, and estimates of property damage were over $1 billion, making it the most destructive period of local unrest in US history.

1992 Los Angeles riots - Wikipedia

"Koreatown, situated just to the north of South Central LA, was disproportionately damaged because of racial tensions between communities.

"Much of the blame for the extensive nature of the violence was attributed to LAPD Chief of Police Daryl Gates, who had already announced his resignation by the time of the riots, for failure to de-escalate the situation and overall mismanagement."

Lets not forget that the police were guilty of causing the 92 riots by their illegal and abusive treatment of minorities.

 

[Rigby5]

That there is an occupation, an invasion. A lot of these people do not belong here.


Every Californian I know LOVES ICE.


Yeah, sure, go back to sleep off that cleaning fluid you huff.

I disagree.
CA should be almost 100% Hispanic since they were originally the only legal Spanish land grant owners. You can't sell Spanish land grants, so they should still all be owned by Hispanics. The only reason they are not, is they were murdered of forced to flee for their lives, illegally.

Likely you do not really know any Californians, but instead know transplants of European descent.

 

[Rigby5]

And you would support ICE and the FBI 100% if they had warrants?

I would feel much better if they had warrants, but these days even warrants are often bogus.
Look at all the charges against Trump that are bogus.

 

[HikerGuy83]

If more people had protested Vietnam sooner, we could have saved over 3 million lives.

That's a guess on your part.

I'll bet you have next to no context as to why we were even involved there.

Your stupid armchair quarterbacking is become boring.

If more people had protested the illegal invasion of Iraq, we could have saved half a million lives.

I protested. It was your side that got your shoulders under GWB's rear end.

The line ICE has crossed by not providing judicial due process, threatens everyone.

The only lines crossed have been by the protestors. I know that your vision of judicial process fits your narrative. Sorroy to break it to you, but they are there legitimately and right now, I hope they are arresting people by droves.

It makes this a dictatorship instead of a republic.

The left wing of this country is what has removed many of the vestiges of our republican form of congress.

If you are so high on this, are you going to push for a repeal of the 17th amendment?

 

[Rigby5]

You don't know what you are talking about so just STFU....
And show us the law you claim they are breaking...

What other basis could there be for ICE except that we claim this land by right of conquest, by murdering the natives?
Its not ours, we are not native, we did not create the land, we invaded, and we illegally murdered the real natives who did have ownership rights.

 

[Leo123]

While undercutting wages could be a valid concern, the reality is that people are so racist in the US that they only hire Hispanics for job no one else wants.
And their "culture" is a vast improvement.
Hispanics have much better family and community values than greed Europeans do.
Their history is tribal, social, and interpersonal.
Our European history is feudal, violent, greedy, and left by the Romans.
Some do send money back to family, but if they can get their family here, then the money stays here.

B.S.