What is the legality of Trump's National Guard actions?

[Etymology gaslight]

Of course there is a question of law.
ICE is in violation of the law by not using judicial due process, Trump is in violation for taking the National Guard without governor permission is illegal, and using National Guard on nonviolent demonstrators is illegal.

There is no question of law
that's what we're trying to tell you.

There hasn't been any law.
I'm trying to present this as gently
as I can.

There is a presumption of lawlessness and chaos.

I believe it's a generational affectation.

Just like Trump's first term
He is cleaning up after Obama.
&
University of Chicago.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Its within the purview of the Commander in Chief to direct Federal assets for the protection, fortification and resupply of Federal installations.

 

[Rawley]

I have tried innumerable times to educate dumb asses like you. But you’re impervious to facts, reason, logic and truth

It's why he made it to my iggie list, the first in a long time.

 

[Rigby5]

If an ICE agent interacts with an individual they have reason to believe is in the country illegally, they have every right to detain them. If some interferes, they have every right to arrest them. Why are you for lawlessness and disorder?

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ICE agents have no more authority to arrest than your uncle does.
It is only judicial arrest warrants issued by judges that legally authorize anyone to be detained or deported.
ICE has ZERO authority to detain anyone on their own.
Everyone has the authority to arrest ICE when they try to detain anyone without a judicial warrant.

Law and order is based on the defense of inherent rights.
The undocumented harm no one.
It is ICE who is doing ALL the HARM!
The way ICE is operating in totally contrary to the principles of a republic.

 

[Rambunctious]

Asked and answered.

You are trying to defend Nazi tactics, and you know it.

NAZI tactics leave people dead... no one is dying but our fellow citizens at the hands of criminal aliens... we are doing our duty to our country and honoring the presidential oath of office to protect the nation from threats foreign and domestic.....

 

[Leo123]

There isn't any. He needs the authority of Congress to use U.S. against U.S. and that has NOT been given. Nor has Governor Newsom requested such support. It is clear violation the Posse Comitatus Act as passed in 1878.

Newsom refused a federal order to arrest criminals. That is all ICE was doing. The people they arrested have long rap sheets. They are NOT just border hoppers. Democrats lied and caused this mayhem. Newsom should have cooperated instead of telling Holman to arrest him. The whole riot looked like an invasion from another country, with rioters carrying foreign flags. Deploying U.S. troops was not only legal but needed.

 

[Rigby5]

Its within the purview of the Commander in Chief to direct Federal assets for the protection, fortification and resupply of Federal installations.

Not when it harms the rights of individuals.
The president can't infringe on the rights of anyone who is not harming others.

 

[Leo123]

ICE agents have no more authority to arrest than your uncle does.
It is only judicial arrest warrants issued by judges that legally authorize anyone to be detained or deported.
ICE has ZERO authority to detain anyone on their own.
Everyone has the authority to arrest ICE when they try to detain anyone without a judicial warrant.

Law and order is based on the defense of inherent rights.
The undocumented harm no one.
It is ICE who is doing ALL the HARM!
The way ICE is operating in totally contrary to the principles of a republic.

Holman did have warrants.

 

[Rawley]

They are not serving warrants.

Indeed no due process is being observed at all.

ICE agents without identification, acting on dubious authority, and just rounding people up at random is not “a serving warrants”

I will continue to call out obviously false claims like this one until the lawlessness of this regieme is checked.

Ignorant, liar. or ignorant liar?

"A total of four search warrants were served at three different locations in Los Angeles, according to Yasmeen Pitts O'Keefe of the Homeland Security Investigations, a branch of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security."

45 people arrested during ICE raids at 3 downtown LA locations

A total of four search warrants were served, officials confirmed.

www.nbclosangeles.com

 

[Failzero]

Wrong.
Soldiers are not trained "not to kill".
Vietnam, napalm, agent orange, B-52 raids on the north, etc. are proof of that.
In fact, we murdered half a million innocent Iraqis when they basically surrendered without a fight.

The only "danger" comes from ICE and their deliberate bypass of judicial due process.

Marines have been trained to kill since the mid 1700s

 

[Rigby5]

Newsom refused a federal order to arrest criminals. That is all ICE was doing. The people they arrested have long rap sheets. They are NOT just border hoppers. Democrats lied and caused this mayhem. Newsom should have cooperated instead of telling Holman to arrest him. The whole riot looked like an invasion from another country, with rioters carrying foreign flags. Deploying U.S. troops was not only legal but needed.

Wrong.
ICE is raiding, arresting, and deporting without judicial due process, so is criminal.
The raids, arrests, and deportations are anonymous raids like on Home Depot parking lots, meat processors, etc., so cannot possibly be people with any previous record at all.
Deploying troops is illegal since it is ICE who is harming innocents and in violation of the law.

 

[Rambunctious]

WRONG!
These are people with protection orders, DACA histories, anchor babies, anonymous Home Depot parking lots workers, etc.
None of the raids are over people with legal deportation orders.
If they already had deportation orders, they would also have addresses of the individuals and would not have to conduct anonymous raids like this.

Details about specific individuals arrested our as follows so pay attention... these individuals have criminal records... including those with previous convictions for offenses like child molestation... domestic violence... murder and rape convictions and narcotics violations....
Maybe when Fentanyl kills someone close to you it will cause you to wake up....

 

[theHawk]

which was my argument re: jan 6, when he let his flying monkeys attack law enforcement for 3 hours & didn't do a damn thing as he watched it all unfold on TV ... failing miserably with his excuse that it was nancy pelosi's job - which of course was a complete stone cold lie.


boom.

What are you babbling about?

There was no “attack” or “insurrection” on J6. The Antifa/Fed boys LARPing as MAGA don’t count.

How many buildings were burned down? Zero.

 

[theHawk]

Wrong.
ICE is raiding, arresting, and deporting without judicial due process, so is criminal.
The raids, arrests, and deportations are anonymous raids like on Home Depot parking lots, meat processors, etc., so cannot possibly be people with any previous record at all.
Deploying troops is illegal since it is ICE who is harming innocents and in violation of the law.

ICE raiding, detaining, and deporting IS the due process to remove illegals.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not when it harms the rights of individuals.
The president can't infringe on the rights of anyone who is not harming others.

Of course he can. Where you once had a right to go on the steps up to the Federal building. You don't now.

 

[Leo123]

Wrong.
ICE is raiding, arresting, and deporting without judicial due process, so is criminal.
The raids, arrests, and deportations are anonymous raids like on Home Depot parking lots, meat processors, etc., so cannot possibly be people with any previous record at all.
Deploying troops is illegal since it is ICE who is harming innocents and in violation of the law.

No, you're wrong. ICE had warrants. These illegal-alien-criminals had their due process that's why they all have rap sheets for murder, robbery, etc. Would you let these miscreants live in YOUR house?

 

[Rambunctious]

ICE agents have no more authority to arrest than your uncle does.
It is only judicial arrest warrants issued by judges that legally authorize anyone to be detained or deported.
ICE has ZERO authority to detain anyone on their own.
Everyone has the authority to arrest ICE when they try to detain anyone without a judicial warrant.

Law and order is based on the defense of inherent rights.
The undocumented harm no one.
It is ICE who is doing ALL the HARM!
The way ICE is operating in totally contrary to the principles of a republic.

Yes, ICE agents have the authority to arrest individuals. They can arrest non-citizens based on a valid warrant or if they have reason to believe the person is removable and likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained. AI answer....

 

[Rigby5]

Ignorant, liar. or ignorant liar?

"A total of four search warrants were served at three different locations in Los Angeles, according to Yasmeen Pitts O'Keefe of the Homeland Security Investigations, a branch of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security."

45 people arrested during ICE raids at 3 downtown LA locations

A total of four search warrants were served, officials confirmed.

www.nbclosangeles.com

Obviously you are the liar since these 3 different locals are to do random ID checks.
If they instead were arresting those with convictions, then they would go right to their individual address, and not an anonymous mass employment location.
A search warrant means they are looking for suspects, not that they are trying to arrest those with previous convictions.

 

[playtime]

What are you babbling about?

There was no “attack” or “insurrection” on J6. The Antifa/Fed boys LARPing as MAGA don’t count.

How many buildings were burned down? Zero.

donny's flying monkeys were satisfied with throwing their shit against the capital walls.

 

[Rigby5]

Marines have been trained to kill since the mid 1700s

Exactly, which is why they are illegal to use on civilians unless there has been an armed uprising.