What is feminism today?

[Hang on Sloopy]

Feminism to me are women who drip feminism. Just utter class. Dainty, sweet, loving as sugar

Basically women other women loathe because they just can't even come close to a class act

 

[Disir]

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Some jobs are simply inherently risky, and that is unavoidable.

What I was discussing, and in reference to a family unit, was the extent some men will go to in order to feed their family.
It doesn't have as much to do with the value of the individual as which one are you going to risk losing first.

You need meat ... There is a tiger hunting the same meat you are ... A man, a woman, two children and one of them breast feeding ...
Which one is expendable should things not go as planned?

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Yes, some jobs are inherently risky and it also explains why some basic "men's jobs" pay more than basic " women's jobs". It's the risk of death factor.

I get what you are saying. Now.

I can see that from a historical perspective even if we say there were no nuclear families at that time.

I'm having difficulty with it as a current perspective. I think it's because what you are talking about is man v nature. It's natural, instinctive and honorable.

Im not sure that's what we have today. I think it's because of how expendable men have become and for whom and what. If it was then society would be taking steps to make them less expendable. We don't see that.

I also don't see a lot of family units that are together and that could also create bias and just have become the norm.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

It's because you're female, playtime ----- I have to tell you that?

It's a big fan-getter, at least in your case.

If all the men on this board just disappeared into thin air I wouldn't mind at all. I'd rather speak to women

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Yes, some jobs are inherently risky and it also explains why some basic "men's jobs" pay more than basic " women's jobs". It's the risk of death factor.

I get what you are saying. Now.

I can see that from a historical perspective even if we say there were no nuclear families at that time.

I'm having difficulty with it as a current perspective. I think it's because what you are talking about is man v nature. It's natural, instinctive and honorable.

Im not sure that's what we have today. I think it's because of how expendable men have become and for whom and what. If it was then society would be taking steps to make them less expendable. We don't see that.

I also don't see a lot of family units that are together and that could also create bias and just have become the norm.

Where u been?????

 

[Disir]

Where u been?????

You mean in general or are you setting the stage for verbal fisticuffs?

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

You mean in general or are you setting the stage for verbal fisticuffs?

I missed your threads.whatever stage you want, set it...lol

 

[Natural Citizen]

Putting all of the disagreements and ice picks aside, I've always found Disir and Playtime to be both serious and sincere in ther views, irrelevant of any disagreement or agreements.

It's the ones who are serious, yet insincere that you have to watch. As casual passer-by, one would do well to always be careful and not get trapped into limiting oneself to only discussing sugar coated means because you'll never get around to discussing the ends. That's not in your favor. And you really, really, really wanna try to better understand the end. Particularly when discussion is being led by openly admitted trustees in Marxists ideology like “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Again, they never say who decides need. Expanding discussion to better illustrate who actually does decide need under that model and what it actually entails is not and should not ever be considered 'trolling.' If it is, then there are bigger issues at play. That's basically someone telling you "Shut up! Listen!..and if you don't, I might do something!"

Anyway. I'm bailing on this one, unless I just happen to click on it again out of curiosity.

 

[BlackSand]

Yes, some jobs are inherently risky and it also explains why some basic "men's jobs" pay more than basic " women's jobs". It's the risk of death factor.

I get what you are saying. Now.

I can see that from a historical perspective even if we say there were no nuclear families at that time.

I'm having difficulty with it as a current perspective. I think it's because what you are talking about is man v nature. It's natural, instinctive and honorable.

Im not sure that's what we have today. I think it's because of how expendable men have become and for whom and what. If it was then society would be taking steps to make them less expendable. We don't see that.

I also don't see a lot of family units that are together and that could also create bias and just have become the norm.

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I may use a rather dated analogy, but as a means of making my point clearer, and not a limitation into how
it can be unfolded and how well it will mesh with more current issues.
Sometimes it also helps to think about how things do work instead of how they don't work.

I also tend to look at process over desire when attempting find a viable solution.
Desire can help set target goals, and provide initiative ... But it is seldom a substitute or friend of process.

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[francoHFW]

Yeah, they are. They had years of testosterone to build muscle mass, and muscle density.

But that's science. You idjits don't do science.

Maybe you should try watching news instead of garbage....

 

[francoHFW]

AOC? Hahahahahahahahahaha what a joke. Freedom of choice? Don't make me laugh mandate Dimmer.

Keep voting for the greedy idiot GOP rich then, brainwashed functional moron....

 

[francoHFW]

Putting all of the disagreements and ice picks aside, I've always found Disir and Playtime to be both serious and sincere in ther views, irrelevant of any disagreement or agreements.

It's the ones who are serious, yet insincere that you have to watch. As casual passer-by, one would do well to always be careful and not get trapped into limiting oneself to only discussing sugar coated means because you'll never get around to discussing the ends. That's not in your favor. And you really, really, really wanna try to better understand the end. Particularly when discussion is being led by openly admitted trustees in Marxists ideology like “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Again, they never say who decides need. Expanding discussion to better illustrate who actually does decide need under that model and what it actually entails is not and should not ever be considered 'trolling.' If it is, then there are bigger issues at play. That's basically someone telling you "Shut up! Listen!..and if you don't, I might do something!"

Anyway. I'm bailing on this one, unless I just happen to click on it again out of curiosity.

Bologna. From each etc is communism. All democrats and real socialists want is always democratic fair capitalism with a good safety net. They already have it in every modern country but us thanks to you idiots. A living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and taxing the rich, everywhere but here because of the GOP brainwash. Change the channel ignoramus.

 

[Disir]

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I may use a rather dated analogy, but as a means of making my point clearer, and not a limitation into how
it can be unfolded and how well it will mesh with more current issues.
Sometimes it also helps to think about how things do work instead of how they don't work.

I also tend to look at process over desire when attempting find a viable solution.
Desire can help set target goals, and provide initiative ... But it is seldom a substitute or friend of process.

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I focus on patterns (primarily behavioral) to identify the cause and then disrupt the cause to force a solution. That's the process. Well, mine at any rate.

I'm also acutely aware that there are things that I encounter that some people don't and my view might be skewed. Or so I have been told.

 

[BlackSand]

I focus on patterns (primarily behavioral) to identify the cause and then disrupt the cause to force a solution. That's the process. Well, mine at any rate.

I'm also acutely aware that there are things that I encounter that some people don't and my view might be skewed. Or so I have been told.

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Yeah ... That's also kind of what I meant about process and desire as well.

Like when you are looking for patterns, you should simply find them as they occur, and that will provide you with real data.
If you let what you desire to see influence what you are looking at in a pattern ... Then there is a good chance the data you collect will be skewed.

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[Natural Citizen]

Bologna. From each etc is communism.

I know what it is.

But Marx's ideology for salvation was built on Hagel's foundation.

Ironically, like so many of the social justice warriors in modern society who really don't understand Marxism but think they do, Marx himself never did explain how communism would rise after the destruction of so-called capitalism. Nor did Marx ever explain how the State would wither away after the dictatorship of the proletariat began. Marx, like so many modern social justice warriors, just assumed that increasing government power was the path to liberating society or humanity itself.

Did that stop Lenin from decreeing that liberty was so precious that it should be rationed? Heh heh. Please. Of course not.

Of course, all of that goes back to what Black Sand was saying about having to literally reverse everything the other poster believes, their very religion, in order that they begin to understand the fatal error in subjugating society to petty government officials in the name of ending so-called class struggle.

There's much to be said about this. And it's directly germane to the topic at hand. But I think that to actually have that discussion in any fruitful manner requires a completely different thread. It's an intellectual discussion. And not one of those 'official Marxism thread because I say it's the official Marxism thread and, oh, btw, here are the terms of controversy, also because I say so'

Discussion like that demands an unbiased, historical basis, germane to modern politics, except thoroughly, not just premised on and limited to promoting the means of making pet social issues applicable while demonizing any notion of ever touching on the ends and subsequent consequence.

And that's not even taking into consideration the fact that there is such a major shortcoming in society with definitions and understandings of what kinds of policies we actually have in America.

In fact, it's almost as laughable as it is disturbing to see so many arguments over capitalism versus socialism. The argument itself is completely irrelevant to the kinds of policies we actually have. We're Keynesians. Thoroughly. What we have is central economic planning by a central bank. We have economic interventionism. We have a planned economy. We have a welfare state. We have inflationism. A belief in deficit finance.

That entire system is completely removed from any semblance of free-market capitalism. Yet...we see arguments over socialism versus capitalism. Do you not understand how stupid that is?

The only purpose it serves is to say, disingenuously I might add, that, oh, look, capitalism is so bad that what we surely must need is socialism.

The entire argument is rigged and meant to keep people stupid to what kinds of policies we actually do have while the Keynesians, with their close ties to government, and who keep it going, get all of that freshly printed currency first and get to insert it into the economy in a way tha tonly benefits them before it is ever affected by inflation, and they're laughing all the way to the central bank.

That right there is where all of the so-called 'class struggle' comes from. But it won't be until people actually grasp proper definitions and understanding of what kinds of policies we actually have until serious, fruitful discussion can be had. I, for one, am not holding my breath.

 

[playtime]

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Yet you are the one that keeps coming back with nothing to offer but trolling.​

& you keep doing the same. so as the saying goes -

that is that.

I will still offer you the invitation to explore any topic you may want to discuss.​

but why? you like me that much?

Come on ... You can do it ...​

no doubt i can ... but do i wanna is the $64K question.

I will even say "please".
For goodness sakes please say something worthwhile.

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lol ... again with the silly opining. i am on lotsa threads with lotsa things to say - & i ALWAYS back them up with unbiased sources. perhaps we'll cross paths in the future & have a go at it. who knows, maybe even agree on a few things... doubtful - but life is chock full of surprises.

howeverrrrrrr..... as for this here thread - you burned that bridge many posts ago.

 

[playtime]

She barely passed her GED. I think it's pretty obvious she enjoys a very low order of sentience.

^^^ says the poorly educated dupe that donny loves long time...

 

[playtime]

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I might have been blessed with some pragmatism ...
But I'm also cursed with some very irrational intolerances.

It makes for an interesting ride sometimes.
Well ... Maybe not for y'all ...

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wow... that's deep.

 

[playtime]

It's because you're female, playtime ----- I have to tell you that?

It's a big fan-getter, at least in your case.

sounds rather catty - but alrighty.

 

[playtime]

If all the men on this board just disappeared into thin air I wouldn't mind at all. I'd rather speak to women

you playboy you............

 

[BlackSand]

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& you keep doing the same. so as the saying goes -
that is that.
but why? you like me that much?
no doubt i can ... but do i wanna is the $64K question.
lol ... again with the silly opining. i am on lotsa threads with lotsa things to say - & i ALWAYS back them up with unbiased sources. perhaps we'll cross paths in the future & have a go at it. who knows, maybe even agree on a few things... doubtful - but life is chock full of surprises.
howeverrrrrrr..... as for this here thread - you burned that bridge many posts ago.

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Well ... If "please" didn't work, I guess all I can say is "sorry" you felt compelled to tell me.
Take Care and Have a Lovely Evening

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