What is a MAGA Republican?

[Correll]

The constant calling calling of names? Sounds like your house isn’t in order, or is there an “approved list” of insults I’m missing here?

Big difference between calling various players a name, and calling populations names.

Yup. And I remember when Republicans started passing laws trying to silence it. Of course that isn’t hard to remember, it’s been within the last few years,

I call b.s.

Remind me of the laws they passed cracking down on disagreeing.

Nice. You know that the mobs and the cancel culture is a real problem so you set hte bar to be a LAW.

They haven't yet been able to pass their laws on "hate speech" yet, but it is coming soon enough.

Or are you talking about cultural pressure.

No, I was talking about mob violence and cancel culture. "Cultural pressure?" A mob threatening violence or DOING violence, is not "cultural pressure".

Of course with rightwing cultural pressure, you are a groomer for disagreeing. Tell me how that’s any better.

It is expressing a negative opinion of an INDIVIDUAL for their actions, not smearing and marginalizing a group of people for their very existence.

My God you guys are worse snowflakes then those proclaiming it to be a violent attack.

The process of lying an moral groundwork for escalating violence is a real thing. It was certainly part of hte process that did lead to the Holocaust. And teh hate I see from the Left, I could certainly believe we are headed for something like that.

There is no law that says you can’t disagree.

Again, you, a person that styles themselves as mainstream, minimizes the mob violence and cancel culture, by setting the standard to be a "law".

That is a form of supporting the mob violence.

Republican voters create their own cancel culture through legislative fiat (DeSantis, Abbot). Who’s really vulnerable to arrest?

Give your best example for discussion purposes.

 

[Coyote]

You’ll also note that she didn’t smack Surada around for saying that European Jews - the very same Jews who parents and grandparents and siblings and children were slaughtered by Hitler - were like Hitler. THAT was the most reprehensible comparison, much more so that saying that Biden’s dehumanization of Republicans was how Hitler began his assault against Jews.

As you note, she lets the MOST offensive comments go by when uttered by a leftist - and zeroes in on less troublesome comments made by a conservative.

Comparing the Holocaust to the Israel/Palestinan situation is shallow, but comparing a bumbling American politician to the man responsible for the Holocaust, ESPECIALLY from some who has many times brought up the cost of the Holocaust is not just shallow, it’s self serving.

Rather than own it you flail around saying poor me, “I’m the real victim here what about what so and so said? “ I don’t care what so and so said. You are the one who I would expect to have the historical presence of mind to tell these people what an ignorant comparison this is instead of leading the charge.

But oh know, it’s everyone picks on because I’m a conservative blah blah. Get a grip and own your words.

This is nothing new, it is just like the comparisons of masks and yellow stars, etc. YOU aren’t a victim. YOU (as part of the right) have been passing laws that forbid us from discussing certain topics in schools and in the workplace because the overall culture is not buying your messaging and the only recourse you have is to force it and threaten those who disagree with your laws.

In the meantime, have you examined your side’s own extensive library of dehumanizing rhetoric?

 

[Lisa558]

Comparing the Holocaust to the Israel/Palestinan situation is shallow, but comparing a bumbling American politician to the man responsible for the Holocaust, ESPECIALLY from some who has many times brought up the cost of the Holocaust is not just shallow, it’s self serving, and rather than own it you flail around saying poor me, “I’m the real victim here what about what so and so said? “ I don’t care what so and so said. You are the one who I would expect to have the historical presence of mind to tell these people what an ignorant comparison this is instead of leading the charge.

But oh know, it’s everyone picks on because I’m a conservative blah blah. Get a grip and own your words.

This is nothing new, it is just like the comparisons of masks and yellow stars, etc. YOU aren’t a victim. YOU (as part of the right) have been passing laws that forbid us from discussing certain topics in schools and in the workplace because the overall culture is not buying your messaging and the only recourse you have is to force it and threaten those who disagree with your laws.

In the meantime, have you examined your side’s own extensive library of dehumanizing rhetoric?

You’re still doing it….the double standards. The liberal said European Jews are as bad as Hitler. That was worse. And the strongest criticism you have of her is that she was “shallow”??

Yes, and I have the presence of mind to know how Hitler began. My grandmother got letters from her soon-to-be murdered mother and sister telling of how Hitler was vilifying Jews. Biden is doing the same thing as to MAGA Republicans, whatever the hell that is, and getting previously normal people to consider them a threat to the nation.

He’s now set about calling them “Trumpies,” which implies an even larger group - those who support Trump. He has demonized the half of all voters who are prepared to vote for his opponent.

Reprehensible isn’t strong enough a word. EVIL is more like it.

 

[Coyote]

Big difference between calling various players a name, and calling populations names.




I call b.s.




Nice. You know that the mobs and the cancel culture is a real problem so you set hte bar to be a LAW.

They haven't yet been able to pass their laws on "hate speech" yet, but it is coming soon enough.




No, I was talking about mob violence and cancel culture. "Cultural pressure?" A mob threatening violence or DOING violence, is not "cultural pressure".




It is expressing a negative opinion of an INDIVIDUAL for their actions, not smearing and marginalizing a group of people for their very existence.



The process of lying an moral groundwork for escalating violence is a real thing. It was certainly part of hte process that did lead to the Holocaust. And teh hate I see from the Left, I could certainly believe we are headed for something like that.

I could easily make the same argument about the hateful rhetoric from the right that dehumanizes Muslims, Mexicans, immigrants, and liberals. You up for examining that?

Again, you, a person that styles themselves as mainstream, minimizes the mob violence and cancel culture, by setting the standard to be a "law".

I abhor mob violence, but support rightful, non violent protests. Have you minimized mob violence? Jan 6? Come on.

The standard IS the law. That is what safeguards our rights. What protects both us and ultimately our right to free speech IS the law, not the mob.

What else should set the standard? And free speech is a good example because of our Constitution (the ultimate law of our country) our laws give a lot of leeway to that right. ”Cancel Culture” whether you agree or not, occurs in both the left and the right, and is part of a cultural trend. How would you propose dealing with it?

That is a form of supporting the mob violence.

Give your best example for discussion purposes.

How is it a form of supporting mob violence?

 

[JoeB131]

You’re still doing it….the double standards. The liberal said European Jews are as bad as Hitler. That was worse. And the strongest criticism you have of her is that she was “shallow”??

Can you point out what he actual quote was, and the context? Thanks.

 

[Correll]

Coyote

I could easily make the same argument about the hateful rhetoric from the right that dehumanizes Muslims, Mexicans, immigrants, and liberals. You up for examining that?

Give me your best example.

I abhor mob violence, but support rightful, non violent protests. Have you minimized mob violence? Jan 6? Come on.

Violent mobs have been silencing conservatives speakers, generally with varying degrees of help from liberals, for years.

And minimized the 1/6 riot? No, I have not. It was a violent riot, and I wish that the people that broke laws would face the same standard of justice that all the other rioters of that era faced.

The standard IS the law. That is what safeguards our rights. What protects both us and ultimately our right to free speech IS the law, not the mob.

When the response of society to a violent mob demanding someone not speak, is to use force to prevent that person from speaking, the standard set by the Law, is one of NOT SAFEGUARDING our rightss.

AND, if current trends hold, it will not be long before you people get your hate speech laws, and you know it.

What else should set the standard? And free speech is a good example because of our Constitution (the ultimate law of our country) our laws give a lot of leeway to that right. ”Cancel Culture” whether you agree or not, occurs in both the left and the right, and is part of a cultural trend. How would you propose dealing with it?

It does not occurr on both sides and step one would be removing special protections from social media.

How is it a form of supporting mob violence?

When you minimize the violence of the mob, to pretending it is just cancel culture, you are supporting it by providing it with political cover.

 

[Coyote]

Coyote


Give me your best example.

Demonizing Liberals? Well, the biggest in my opinion, is the attempt to resurrect the “red scare” and McCarthyism. Labeling us as Commies, socialists and Marxists simply for supporting a stronger safetynet, more government spending etc. Now, it doesn’t matter what we support, we are commies.

If we support age appropriate sexual education that includes transgender and homosexuals as part of the community you call us groomers and pedos.

Some Republicans use false 'pedophilia' claims to attack Democrats, LGBTQ people

Republicans are using dangerous, false 'pedophilia' claims to attack Democrats and LGBTQ people.

abcnews.go.com

Violent mobs have been silencing conservatives speakers, generally with varying degrees of help from liberals, for years.

You’re talking about college campuses and in that, I agree. They need to do better at providing and supporting a variety of voices.

And minimized the 1/6 riot? No, I have not. It was a violent riot, and I wish that the people that broke laws would face the same standard of justice that all the other rioters of that era faced.

They have, although the harshest sentences so far have gone to other rioters of that era.

And no one has called the other rioters “patriots” or “political prisoners”.

When the response of society to a violent mob demanding someone not speak, is to use force to prevent that person from speaking, the standard set by the Law, is one of NOT SAFEGUARDING our rightss.

Are you talking about college campuses?

AND, if current trends hold, it will not be long before you people get your hate speech laws, and you know it.

I doubt it. It would violate free speech. I would certainly oppose it. Do you people oppose laws that restrict free speech? After all, you have passed them.

It does not occurr on both sides and step one would be removing special protections from social media.

It absolutely occurs on both sides. Do you think Truth Social Is some kind of haven for free speech? You also forget these are private companies. If you remove those special protections, which I don’t oppose, you will find a lot of the crap that gets posted won’t due to liability concerns.

When you minimize the violence of the mob, to pretending it is just cancel culture, you are supporting it by providing it with political cover.

So far, there has been little mob violence outside of Floyd and Jan 6. What is being minimized?

And I’m still not clear what you would propose if you think that the law is not the answer.

 

[Indeependent]

Fucking horse shit.

I’m fact to you MAGARAT bastards TRUMP comes before anything

We all know you love trespassers because no one else will date you.

 

[Correll]

Demonizing Liberals? Well, the biggest in my opinion, is the attempt to resurrect the “red scare” and McCarthyism. Labeling us as Commies, socialists and Marxists simply for supporting a stronger safetynet, more government spending etc. Now, it doesn’t matter what we support, we are commies.

If we support age appropriate sexual education that includes transgender and homosexuals as part of the community you call us groomers and pedos.

Some Republicans use false 'pedophilia' claims to attack Democrats, LGBTQ people

Republicans are using dangerous, false 'pedophilia' claims to attack Democrats and LGBTQ people.

abcnews.go.com

There seems to be no divide between the most extreme fringe of your party and the more mainstream....mainstream.

Such as you mention. You claim "Age appropriate sexual education" as though there has NOT been clear examples of age INappropriate" behavior, such as kids in drag dancing at gay strip clubs.

You’re talking about college campuses and in that, I agree. They need to do better at providing and supporting a variety of voices.

But, they didn't. THey aren't. If anything the trends are all the other way. Ever increasing violence and censorship.

They have, although the harshest sentences so far have gone to other rioters of that era.

And no one has called the other rioters “patriots” or “political prisoners”.

Sure they did. The Chaz, the Autonomous Zone, they were called shit like The Summer of Love and allowed to continue for weeks, even after people started dying and getting raped.

And even today, there is no push to find the people responsible and hold them accountable.


FOR ONE LIMITED EXAMPLE. oh and to be clear, the people making the call to let them continue, elected dems. So, not fringe types. Mainstream dems, allied with and supporting the violent fringe.

Are you talking about college campuses?

I've seen a lot of vids of that behavior. I doubt that the violent brown shirted thugs that did that, are not doing other shit that I have missed or did not get publicity, AND I am talking about cancel culture.

I doubt it. It would violate free speech. I would certainly oppose it. Do you people oppose laws that restrict free speech? After all, you have passed them.

Haven't seen the polls showing how young progressives don't care about Free Speech? Hey, that is what demographic shift is all about. Changing America to be more left.


Don't pretend you don't see where the trends are clearly headed.

40% of Millennials OK with limiting speech offensive to minorities

That's compared with 27% of Gen Xers and 24% of Boomers who say the same.

www.pewresearch.org

It absolutely occurs on both sides. Do you think Truth Social Is some kind of haven for free speech? You also forget these are private companies. If you remove those special protections, which I don’t oppose, you will find a lot of the crap that gets posted won’t due to liability concerns.

Truth Social? What is it? 1% the size of Facebook or Youtube?

And if the limits are equally applied, I'm fine with that. It is the control that is the problem. Especially allied with political power.

So far, there has been little mob violence outside of Floyd and Jan 6. What is being minimized?

And I’m still not clear what you would propose if you think that the law is not the answer.

Mob violence to prevent speech has been going on for years before Floyd.

How about we stop lying about it for step one. INdeed, with the mob violence lets start enforcing the LAW against the viollent left instead of HELPING them.

 

[BWK]

Biden is telling the country that “MAGA Republicans” are traitors to the nation and intent on destroying democracy, but exactly which of the American citizens his job is to support is he vilifying - and casting as the enemy?

It seems, G-d forbid, they are Republicans who are strongly opposed to the far-left policies of the Democrat Party - and are engaged politically. Although most do not attend rallies, they have signed petitions, contacted their representative, and/or donated money.

IOW, citizens who are involved in promoting Republicans and Republican policies are now the enemy. Biden’s speech was an attempt to suppress - with a menacing, threatening attitude, complete with Marines in the background - the voice of voters who strongly oppose him. This is NOT how America is supposed to operate.

Just take a peek at the “enemy” MAGAs - signing petitions and donating money to candidates they want in office. How dare they!

MAGA and Politics – Panel Study of the MAGA Movement

A fascist.

 

[Leo123]

Biden is against making America great.

 

[flan327]

Sit down and shut up, bitch. We're tired of you.

You FIRST

PLEASE

 

[flan327]

Biden is against making America great.

LOLOLOLOL

Legally elected President Biden has to make up for FOUR YEARS of Mr. Trump’s incompetency

 

[Leo123]

LOLOLOLOL

Legally elected President Biden has to make up for FOUR YEARS of Mr. Trump’s incompetency

Biden: Highest fuel prices in decades, high food prices, backed up supply chains, killed people with the Afghan pull out, most deaths from COVID, highest inflation in decades, plummetting housing market, sicing the IRS on middle income folks, hiking taxes, selling our oil, calling millions of Americans 'extremists', publishing a Hitleresque hate speech, being guided by the Easter Bunny, making ridiculous detached from reality statements, telling lie after lie after lie. Biden has done nothing but tear down America. He really needs to be impeached at this point.

 

[Lisa558]

Biden: Highest fuel prices in decades, high food prices, backed up supply chains, killed people with the Afghan pull out, most deaths from COVID, highest inflation in decades, plummetting housing market, sicing the IRS on middle income folks, hiking taxes, selling our oil, calling millions of Americans 'extremists', publishing a Hitleresque hate speech, being guided by the Easter Bunny, making ridiculous detached from reality statements, telling lie after lie after lie. Biden has done nothing but tear down America. He really needs to be impeached at this point.

Lisa loves Leo!

 

[Lesh]

Lisa loves Leo!

Both batshit crazy

 

[Leo123]

Both batshit crazy

Awww, Leshy's jealous....
No one likes Leshy.

 

[Lesh]

Awww, Leshy's jealous....
No one likes Leshy.

Jealous of crazy people?

Not hardly

 

[DBA]

And Trump was the 'cool kid' for magaturds. You're just a hypocrite. It's expected.

Nope, not at all. Policies matter. Trump's policies were sound and Bidens are absolutely horrific. I couldn't care less how cool or not cool Trump or Biden is.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Nope, not at all. Policies matter. Trump's policies were sound and Bidens are absolutely horrific. I couldn't care less how cool or not cool Trump or Biden is.

Bullshit. Nothing a magaturd says has any truth to it,