What is a MAGA Republican?

[eddiew37]

Why should that matter? Are some above the law?




He was fined $50,000 and sentenced to 100 hours of community service. At time time it was a misdemeanor. Trump made it a felony in 2018. What is your point?



He was caught with a whole lot more, mixed with his personal items, in his personal space that he refused to return and there is considerable evidence of deliberate concealment. Berger is a super simple direct case. Trump is more complicated and extensive.

The difference here? No one made excuses for Berger.




Yup. Your excuses and complete lack of concern for our nation’s security is duly noted.

Yes who cares where those missing top secretes are ? China? NK? Russia?? Certainly not our republican friends You or I hid top secretes we'd be behind bars

 

[Lisa558]

The European Jews demonized the Palestinians. That's what Hitler did to the Jews.

Disgusting parallel. Hitler rounded up the Jews and gassed them to death - which is a lot more than merely demonizing them. That you think European Jews are equivalent to Hitler reveals to your animosity to Jews. Nobody who isn’t an antisemite would agree with you.

(And the Palestinians demonize the Israelis.)

 

[Coyote]

I was talking about what Hitler did do the Jews, and you jump in to villify Israel.

We are talking about a LEADER dehumanizing his own citizens.

Making comparisons to what Hitler did to the Jews diminishes the horror of what happened and reduces your argument into something ridiculous.

Rhetoric matters, but not as an isolated statement made by a foot-in-mouth president. It makes a difference when it becomes a pattern that leads to a rise in nationalism, populism, cultural shifts and actions against vulnerable groups. America’ rightwing and it’s Republican representatives are far from vulnerable.

You want to talk about dehumanizing rhetoric? You might want to get your own house in order Instead of finding yet another rickety cross you can run toward and impale yourselves on (metaphorically speaking).

 

[Coyote]

Disgusting parallel. Hitler rounded up the Jews and gassed them to death - which is a lot more than merely demonizing them. That you think European Jews are equivalent to Hitler reveals to your animosity to Jews. Nobody who isn’t an antisemite would agree with you.

(And the Palestinians demonize the Israelis.)

Which highlights your own disgusting parallel…comparing Biden and left wing Americans to Hitler and the Nazi’s.

 

[themirrorthief]

A politician, pundit or politico who has sold their soul to the most obvious con man this country has ever seen.

The street level rubes? Meh. They're victims in a way. They don't know any better. They just think as they're told.

poor old broke down Joe and the people who think he will save them from Orange man and trumpybear

 

[themirrorthief]

Which highlights your own disgusting parallel…comparing Biden and left wing Americans to Hitler and the Nazi’s.

Hitler made more sense than poor old Joe

 

[Mac1958]

poor old broke down Joe and the people who think he will save them from Orange man and trumpybear

 

[Mac1958]

Hitler made more sense than poor old Joe

And there we go again.

They're not even hiding it now.

 

[Coyote]

Hitler made more sense than poor old Joe

Populists are usually very good at sounding like they make sense and tapping into popular anger and grievance.

 

[Correll]

Making comparisons to what Hitler did to the Jews diminishes the horror of what happened and reduces your argument into something ridiculous.

Rhetoric matters, but not as an isolated statement made by a foot-in-mouth president. It makes a difference when it becomes a pattern that leads to a rise in nationalism, populism, cultural shifts and actions against vulnerable groups. America’ rightwing and it’s Republican representatives are far from vulnerable.

You want to talk about dehumanizing rhetoric? You might want to get your own house in order Instead of finding yet another rickety cross you can run toward and impale yourselves on (metaphorically speaking).

The constant calling of republicans/white people, names, fits that pretty well. Oh, not the cherry picked list you have, but simply the laying the ground work for violence and genocide.


Remember when liberals supported Free Speech? Now they pretend that Speech equals Violence, or that by disagreeing with someone you are "denying their existance".


Thus, a conservative expressing a political positions becomes a "violent attack" justifying violent self defense.


And republicans VOTERS, are certainly vulerable to cancel culture or arrest when people like Biden are in charge.

 

[Correll]

Which highlights your own disgusting parallel…comparing Biden and left wing Americans to Hitler and the Nazi’s.

How many times have you heard Curried Goat gloat about driving his enemies, supposedly "wacist whites" into EXTINCTION?


He is not the lefty I have heard talk that way. Not by far.

 

[berg80]

The Wa Po did a very in depth analysis. Much too long to post in its entirety. Their conclusion......


Again, we can’t assume that these percentages all overlap. But we get a consistent picture. Over and over, about 10 percent of the population (plus or minus a few percentage points) expresses the sort of view that Biden articulated: Republican or Republican-leaning and in favor of the positions he associated with “MAGA.”
If one agrees with Biden that this group poses a threat to American democracy, it is reassuring that it constitutes a tenth of the public — and not, as Biden’s detractors had it — half.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/02/trump-republicans-biden-maga/

Don't you folks feel special now?

 

[Correll]

The Wa Po did a very in depth analysis. Much too long to post in its entirety. Their conclusion......


Again, we can’t assume that these percentages all overlap. But we get a consistent picture. Over and over, about 10 percent of the population (plus or minus a few percentage points) expresses the sort of view that Biden articulated: Republican or Republican-leaning and in favor of the positions he associated with “MAGA.”
If one agrees with Biden that this group poses a threat to American democracy, it is reassuring that it constitutes a tenth of the public — and not, as Biden’s detractors had it — half.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/02/trump-republicans-biden-maga/

Don't you folks feel special now?

Standard lefty game. Be vague about your terms, and change them depending on what you want to do.


When you want to reassure people that you are not coming after them, you pretend to be discussing the fringe.

Then, when you do come for them, you slam them as MAGA, or wacist, or whatever, and tell everyone else, this guy is MAGA, so he deserves it, and don't listen to what he says.


Or when they want to panic monger their base, or justify purging the military, then they use another broader definition and suddenly everyone to the Right of Hillary becomes a Bad Guy that needs taking out.

 

[berg80]

When you want to reassure people that you are not coming after them, you pretend to be discussing the fringe.

He was discussing the fringe. Of which you are no doubt a card carrying member.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, I'm tired of you people after your six year insane hatred of Trump now includes your not giving a shit that he LEGALLY TOOK THE DOCUMENTS.

You'd never go for prosecuting a Democrat because you don't like a law.

IT WAS LEGAL

No, it wasn't.

HE WAS THE PRESIDENT AND COULD INSTANTLY DECLASSIFY DOCUMENTS!!!!!!

You're one sick **** that you are now going after Trump for things IN HIS POWER AS PRESIDENT.

I get you didn't like it. Well, it's time to man up and move on

You can't just magically think that a document is unclassified after you are no longer in office.

You have to go through a process TO Declassify a document, which involves alerting any and all affected agencies to they can determine the impact.

 

[JoeB131]

That’s how Hitler was able to get Germans to go along with murdering millions Jews for no other reason than their religion. He began with dehumanizing them.

It’s reprehensible what Biden and the leftists are doing.

Oh, please... no one is dehumanizing you...

The only people who got thrown into cages are the undocumented immigrants Trump put into cages.

 

[Correll]

He was discussing the fringe. Of which you are no doubt a card carrying member.

10% is fringe? Really? I would consider more something in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands as "fringe".


What were the standards he used to craft the TEN PERCENT number?

 

[Lisa558]

How many times have you heard Curried Goat gloat about driving his enemies, supposedly "wacist whites" into EXTINCTION?


He is not the lefty I have heard talk that way. Not by far.

You’ll also note that she didn’t smack Surada around for saying that European Jews - the very same Jews who parents and grandparents and siblings and children were slaughtered by Hitler - were like Hitler. THAT was the most reprehensible comparison, much more so that saying that Biden’s dehumanization of Republicans was how Hitler began his assault against Jews.

As you note, she lets the MOST offensive comments go by when uttered by a leftist - and zeroes in on less troublesome comments made by a conservative.

 

[Lisa558]

He was discussing the fringe. Of which you are no doubt a card carrying member.

Doesn’t make sense for a president to give a prime time speech when nothing newsworthy has happened, simply to castigate and demonize a fringe group of voters. He made it sound as though MAGA Republicans, which he did not define, are pervasive throughout society and set on destroying America.

He really is despicable. He is doing what Marco Rubio warned of - he is going beyond demonizing Trump and moving on to his voters, who are decent and law-abiding citizens who just won’t vote for him.

 

[Coyote]

The constant calling of republicans/white people, names, fits that pretty well. Oh, not the cherry picked list you have, but simply the laying the ground work for violence and genocide.

The constant calling calling of names? Sounds like your house isn’t in order, or is there an “approved list” of insults I’m missing here?

Remember when liberals supported Free Speech?

Yup. And I remember when Republicans started passing laws trying to silence it. Of course that isn’t hard to remember, it’s been within the last few years,

Now they pretend that Speech equals Violence, or that by disagreeing with someone you are "denying their existance".

Remind me of the laws they passed cracking down on disagreeing.

Or are you talking about cultural pressure.

Of course with rightwing cultural pressure, you are a groomer for disagreeing. Tell me how that’s any better.

Thus, a conservative expressing a political positions becomes a "violent attack" justifying violent self defense.

My God you guys are worse snowflakes then those proclaiming it to be a violent attack.

There is no law that says you can’t disagree.

And republicans VOTERS, are certainly vulerable to cancel culture or arrest when people like Biden are in charge.

Republican voters create their own cancel culture through legislative fiat (DeSantis, Abbot). Who’s really vulnerable to arrest?