What if Israel Annexes the West Bank and Lets Palestinians Vote

[ForeverYoung436]

He can't be accused of a gee-had because he's an anti-Semitic atheist.

Again, the Palestinians are as "Semitic" as the Zionists, probably more so since they haven't been interbreeding with Europeans for 1000 years.

I'm tired of young American boys coming home in boxes because the Zionists keep dragging us into their fights.

OK, "anti-Jewish" to be perfectly clear. Is that better?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: What if Israel Annexes the West Bank and Lets Palestinians Vote
⁜→ JoeB131, et al,

OK, I'm confused. Just where in the hell are you taking about.

So tell me, be specific about it, what is it that the Zionist Entity is doing in Palestine is akin to what the Afrikaaners did in South Africa?
The very basics to the interrogatives. Who • What • Where • When • How...

You are kidding, right?

Let's see now. You have the White European Jews living in the nice neighborhoods while the Arabs are all concentrated in slums... Just like South Africa. You have a militarized police state designed to keep them all in line.

Because if you had one person, one vote, they'd be gone.

(COMMENT)

Slums: Most countries have tiers of income distribution, some of which lead to lower-income housing. Israel is no different. Even America has lower-income and welfare housing. Just because Israel lower-income and welfare housing can be noticed - has no being on the issue of herding.

Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights.

As far as the Law Enforcement community of Israel goes → they have very similar civil operators → in very similar uniforms → performing very similar jobs → as the European police. It is not unusal for countries in Europe to have Gendarmes (National Police) in addition to the local City Police. Almost all the major counties in Europe have some form of para-military police like the Gendarmes and Carabinieri are a special branch with similar police functions and criminal investigation activities. Border Guard Group (GSG-9) function as a tactical unit for the German Federal Police, very similar to Israeli Special Operations Units. The Israel National Police have Border Police that handles tactical situations as well. Israel has absolutely nothing on the order of South Africa Slums. To suggest so is irresponsible and totally misinformation.

What specifically is your claim?


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[JoeB131]

Apparently the BBC poll hasn't affected the governments of these nations since most, including many Arab countries, are pushing ahead with plan for greater trade and better diplomatic relations with Israel. Even the EU's foreign minister is facing a backlash over his words about Israel's policies in Judea and Samaria. While there is still some sympathy for the Palestinian people, there is much less sympathy for the political leadership of the Palestinians. Today, even in Nigeria, the place where the Arab world convened to issue its famous three no's - no peace with Israel, not recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel - the leadership is seeking normalization of relations with Israel.

You keep fantasizing that the world is going to love Zionism...

 

[JoeB131]

Slums: Most countries have tiers of income distribution, some of which lead to lower-income housing. Israel is no different. Even America has lower-income and welfare housing. Just because Israel lower-income and welfare housing can be noticed - has no being on the issue of herding.

Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights.

NO, buddy, Equal Voting rights would be all 6 Million Arabs being able to vote.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Apparently the BBC poll hasn't affected the governments of these nations since most, including many Arab countries, are pushing ahead with plan for greater trade and better diplomatic relations with Israel. Even the EU's foreign minister is facing a backlash over his words about Israel's policies in Judea and Samaria. While there is still some sympathy for the Palestinian people, there is much less sympathy for the political leadership of the Palestinians. Today, even in Nigeria, the place where the Arab world convened to issue its famous three no's - no peace with Israel, not recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel - the leadership is seeking normalization of relations with Israel.

You keep fantasizing that the world is going to love Zionism...

Most of the world's governments seem to interested in good relations with Israel and there is a marked diminution of interest in the Palestinians in most of these governments.

 

[JoeB131]

Most of the world's governments seem to interested in good relations with Israel and there is a marked diminution of interest in the Palestinians in most of these governments.

Okay, keep telling yourself that.

Experts say BDS having a growing economic impact

DS was a major factor behind the 46% drop in foreign direct investment in Israel in 2014, according to a UN report. Israeli exporters have repeatedly complained that it is getting harder to export products to Europe. An Israeli business leader has said that European businesses are increasingly unwilling to invest in Israel because of BDS. A World Bank report reveals that Israel’s exports to the Palestinian economy dropped by 24% in the first quarter of 2015.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Most of the world's governments seem to interested in good relations with Israel and there is a marked diminution of interest in the Palestinians in most of these governments.

Okay, keep telling yourself that.

Experts say BDS having a growing economic impact

DS was a major factor behind the 46% drop in foreign direct investment in Israel in 2014, according to a UN report. Israeli exporters have repeatedly complained that it is getting harder to export products to Europe. An Israeli business leader has said that European businesses are increasingly unwilling to invest in Israel because of BDS. A World Bank report reveals that Israel’s exports to the Palestinian economy dropped by 24% in the first quarter of 2015.

lol Yet every year Israel's exports to Europe have grown and the Israeli economy continues to grow.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: What if Israel Annexes the West Bank and Lets Palestinians Vote
⁜→ JoeB131, et al,

What the hell?
❖ Population: Israeli People 2019 ❖
8,424,904 (July 2017 est.) (includes populations of the Golan Heights or Golan Sub-District and also East Jerusalem, which was annexed by Israel after 1967) (July 2018 est.)
note: approximately 22,000 Israeli settlers live in the Golan Heights (2016); approximately 201,000 Israeli settlers live in East Jerusalem (2014)

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Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights.

NO, buddy, Equal Voting rights would be all 6 Million Arabs being able to vote.

(COMMENT)

Where in the world do you get "6 Million Arabs" in Israel.

Ethnic groups:

Jewish 74.4 ≈ 6,268,129
Arab 20.9% ≈ 1,760,805
Other 4.7% (2018 est.) ≈ 310,970​

There are well less than 2 Million Arab Israelis and each has an equal vote as the rest of the Israeli population.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Indeependent]

No. You are just a piece of human filth who hates Jews.

It has been explained to you countless times that Zionism was a secular movement to create a home for the persecuted Jewish ethnicity.

Um, if was "secular", why not have that state in Europe or America? You know, places where people won't try to kill you because you stole their land.

Nope, it's about religion.

Um...because nobody wanted the JOOS.
And the US and the Soviets used the JOOS and the Arabs to test out, in real life, their military equipment.

 

[P F Tinmore]

◈ Palestine as a Legal Entity 1929 - 1948
• MEMORANDUM “A” LEGAL MEANING OF THE “TERMINATION OF THE MANDATE” •

2. After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.

3. Where the sovereignty of Palestine lies at the present time in a disputed and perhaps academic legal question about which writers have expressed a number of different conclusions. Where the sovereignty of Palestine will lie after the 15th May, 1948; is perhaps also a question on which different views will be held but so far as His Majesty’s Government are aware, it is a question which it is unnecessary to answer in connection with any practical issues.

4. After the 15th May, 1948, the United Nations Commission will be the Government of Palestine. It does not seem very material whether it is considered to be the de facto or the de jure Government. In any case, its title to be the Government of Palestine will rest on the resolution of the General Assembly.​

Interesting twist here. Britain released its Mandate over Palestine to the United Nations Commission. However the UN did not accept that transfer. The territory and sovereignty were left to the Palestinians. So the Palestinians declared independence on their own territory inside their own international borders.

 

[JoeB131]

Where in the world do you get "6 Million Arabs" in Israel.

You know damned well that the 4.5 Million Arabs in the Occupied territories and the 2 million living in exile aren't allowed to vote.

Quit being disingenuous.

 

[P F Tinmore]

lol Are you Rip Van Winkle? Years ago what you say was true, but today Israel's foreign relations today improve everyday. Some European nations are considering moving their embassies to Jerusalem and several European countries are blocking the EU's anti Israel policies. Even Arab countries are seeking improved trade and diplomatic relations with Israel. Today, the Palestinians have no leverage at all to bargain with.

You keep telling yourself that.

How does the world feel about Israel/Palestine?

That being said, Israel is extremely unpopular worldwide. In one BBC poll of 22 countries, Israel was the fourth-most-disliked nation (behind only Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea).

It’s clear that West Bank settlements are a key cause of Israel’s poor global standing. Most of the world believes that Israel’s continued control of the West Bank is an unlawful military occupation, and that settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention. Though this view is supported by most legal scholars, Israel and pro-Israel conservatives dispute it. They argue that the West Bank isn’t occupied, and even if it were, the Fourth Geneva convention only prohibits “forcible” population transfers, not voluntary settlement.

Apparently the BBC poll hasn't affected the governments of these nations since most, including many Arab countries, are pushing ahead with plan for greater trade and better diplomatic relations with Israel. Even the EU's foreign minister is facing a backlash over his words about Israel's policies in Judea and Samaria. While there is still some sympathy for the Palestinian people, there is much less sympathy for the political leadership of the Palestinians. Today, even in Nigeria, the place where the Arab world convened to issue its famous three no's - no peace with Israel, not recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel - the leadership is seeking normalization of relations with Israel.

The political elites have mostly favored Israel,

The People? Not so much.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: What if Israel Annexes the West Bank and Lets Palestinians Vote
⁜→ JoeB131, et al,

OK, I'm confused. Just where in the hell are you taking about.

So tell me, be specific about it, what is it that the Zionist Entity is doing in Palestine is akin to what the Afrikaaners did in South Africa?
The very basics to the interrogatives. Who • What • Where • When • How...

You are kidding, right?

Let's see now. You have the White European Jews living in the nice neighborhoods while the Arabs are all concentrated in slums... Just like South Africa. You have a militarized police state designed to keep them all in line.

Because if you had one person, one vote, they'd be gone.

(COMMENT)

Slums: Most countries have tiers of income distribution, some of which lead to lower-income housing. Israel is no different. Even America has lower-income and welfare housing. Just because Israel lower-income and welfare housing can be noticed - has no being on the issue of herding.

Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights.

As far as the Law Enforcement community of Israel goes → they have very similar civil operators → in very similar uniforms → performing very similar jobs → as the European police. It is not unusal for countries in Europe to have Gendarmes (National Police) in addition to the local City Police. Almost all the major counties in Europe have some form of para-military police like the Gendarmes and Carabinieri are a special branch with similar police functions and criminal investigation activities. Border Guard Group (GSG-9) function as a tactical unit for the German Federal Police, very similar to Israeli Special Operations Units. The Israel National Police have Border Police that handles tactical situations as well. Israel has absolutely nothing on the order of South Africa Slums. To suggest so is irresponsible and totally misinformation.

What specifically is your claim?


Most Respectfully,
R

Slums: Most countries have tiers of income distribution, some of which lead to lower-income housing. Israel is no different.

 

[toomuchtime_]

lol Are you Rip Van Winkle? Years ago what you say was true, but today Israel's foreign relations today improve everyday. Some European nations are considering moving their embassies to Jerusalem and several European countries are blocking the EU's anti Israel policies. Even Arab countries are seeking improved trade and diplomatic relations with Israel. Today, the Palestinians have no leverage at all to bargain with.

You keep telling yourself that.

How does the world feel about Israel/Palestine?

That being said, Israel is extremely unpopular worldwide. In one BBC poll of 22 countries, Israel was the fourth-most-disliked nation (behind only Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea).

It’s clear that West Bank settlements are a key cause of Israel’s poor global standing. Most of the world believes that Israel’s continued control of the West Bank is an unlawful military occupation, and that settlements violate the Fourth Geneva Convention. Though this view is supported by most legal scholars, Israel and pro-Israel conservatives dispute it. They argue that the West Bank isn’t occupied, and even if it were, the Fourth Geneva convention only prohibits “forcible” population transfers, not voluntary settlement.

Apparently the BBC poll hasn't affected the governments of these nations since most, including many Arab countries, are pushing ahead with plan for greater trade and better diplomatic relations with Israel. Even the EU's foreign minister is facing a backlash over his words about Israel's policies in Judea and Samaria. While there is still some sympathy for the Palestinian people, there is much less sympathy for the political leadership of the Palestinians. Today, even in Nigeria, the place where the Arab world convened to issue its famous three no's - no peace with Israel, not recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel - the leadership is seeking normalization of relations with Israel.

The political elites have mostly favored Israel,

The People? Not so much.

The people who run the governments in most countries support Israel, and now even some Arab governments want to improve relations with Israel, and the long time anti Israel EU is facing a backlash from member countries over the EU's hostile attitudes towards Israel.

 

[Hollie]

Slums: Most countries have tiers of income distribution, some of which lead to lower-income housing. Israel is no different. Even America has lower-income and welfare housing. Just because Israel lower-income and welfare housing can be noticed - has no being on the issue of herding.

Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights.

NO, buddy, Equal Voting rights would be all 6 Million Arabs being able to vote.

Why would 6 million non-IsraelI citizens be allowed to vote in Israeli elections?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There are countless countries that describe themselves as Islamic republics. There is only one country that represents the aspirations of the Jewish ethnicity, however.

Thank you captain obvious. And yes, Israel should cease to be a Jewish state.

 

[Hollie]

◈ Palestine as a Legal Entity 1929 - 1948
• MEMORANDUM “A” LEGAL MEANING OF THE “TERMINATION OF THE MANDATE” •

2. After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.

3. Where the sovereignty of Palestine lies at the present time in a disputed and perhaps academic legal question about which writers have expressed a number of different conclusions. Where the sovereignty of Palestine will lie after the 15th May, 1948; is perhaps also a question on which different views will be held but so far as His Majesty’s Government are aware, it is a question which it is unnecessary to answer in connection with any practical issues.

4. After the 15th May, 1948, the United Nations Commission will be the Government of Palestine. It does not seem very material whether it is considered to be the de facto or the de jure Government. In any case, its title to be the Government of Palestine will rest on the resolution of the General Assembly.​

Interesting twist here. Britain released its Mandate over Palestine to the United Nations Commission. However the UN did not accept that transfer. The territory and sovereignty were left to the Palestinians. So the Palestinians declared independence on their own territory inside their own international borders.

Indeed, interesting twist. No “country of Pal’istan”.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

And yes, Israel should cease to be a Jewish state.

You are simply another ignorant leftist antisemite.

They seem to grow on trees around here.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are simply another ignorant leftist antisemite.

Wrong, as usual. I am on Israel's side in this. They are the ones trying to peacefully co exist with their neighbors.

Sorry crybaby, your overwrought whining and fallacies don't work on me.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You are simply another ignorant leftist antisemite.

Wrong, as usual. I am on Israel's side in this. They are the ones trying to peacefully co exist with their neighbors.

Sorry crybaby, your overwrought whining and fallacies don't work on me.

Yet you just said Israel should cease to be a Jewish state.


I realize from previous conversations that you are a very illogical individual, but you cannot say you are on Israel's side while seeking its destruction.