What happened in the 2016 election will not happen in the 2020 election

[Norman]

The circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are so peculiar, it is extremely unlikely they will be duplicated.

In 2016, the Democratic Party chose the worst possible candidate. Clinton was unpopular, under FBI investigation, and was lugging around a ton of baggage. Trump still managed to lose the popular vote.

Joe Biden is not a Hillary Clinton.

The Times wrote, "Right now, polls say Joe Biden has a healthy lead over President Trump. But we’ve been here before (cue 2016), and the polls were, frankly, wrong."

No, they were not!

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result. One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right | TheHill

The election was won by less than 80,000 votes. Axios reports that Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too."

Nearly everyone today has forgotten the effect James Comey had on the election. Eleven days before Election Day, FBI Director Comey reopened the FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton. Clinton had a substantial lead in the polls, but in the week that followed Comey's announcement her lead quickly evaporated. Two days before the election, Comey issued a "sorry about that" and closed the investigation for lack of anything new.

It was too late.

The Hill reports, "Exit polling found that late-deciders in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin broke for Trump by double-digit margins as high as 29 points."

During the election campaign, every voter in the country knew that the FBI was investigating Clinton. The FBI was also investigating the Trump campaign for its alleged cooperation with Russia. Voters were not aware of that investigation until after the election.

Joe Biden is dumber version of Clinton. Sticks his nose where it doesn't belong.

 

[basquebromance]

i've got good news and bad news for the Democrats

The Good news: Trump is the underdog in this race

here's the bad news: Trump is the underdog in this race

 

[basquebromance]

2016 haunts your dreams, admit it, OP

 

[Dale Smith]

The circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are so peculiar, it is extremely unlikely they will be duplicated.

In 2016, the Democratic Party chose the worst possible candidate. Clinton was unpopular, under FBI investigation, and was lugging around a ton of baggage. Trump still managed to lose the popular vote.

Joe Biden is not a Hillary Clinton.

The Times wrote, "Right now, polls say Joe Biden has a healthy lead over President Trump. But we’ve been here before (cue 2016), and the polls were, frankly, wrong."

No, they were not!

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result. One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right | TheHill

The election was won by less than 80,000 votes. Axios reports that Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too."

Nearly everyone today has forgotten the effect James Comey had on the election. Eleven days before Election Day, FBI Director Comey reopened the FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton. Clinton had a substantial lead in the polls, but in the week that followed Comey's announcement her lead quickly evaporated. Two days before the election, Comey issued a "sorry about that" and closed the investigation for lack of anything new.

It was too late.

The Hill reports, "Exit polling found that late-deciders in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin broke for Trump by double-digit margins as high as 29 points."

During the election campaign, every voter in the country knew that the FBI was investigating Clinton. The FBI was also investigating the Trump campaign for its alleged cooperation with Russia. Voters were not aware of that investigation until after the election.

Both are pedos so they have that in common. Both are traitors. Both are liars, both are corrupt. Both couldn't draw flies to their "rallies". Both kiss Chicom ass and both are chronic liars.
I would say the only difference is that Biden has a penis while the Hildebeast straps hers on.

 

[USApatriotz]

LOL..and what will you say if/when Trump wins again??

 

[fncceo]

Joe Biden is not a Hillary Clinton

No, he's worse. He's an empty suit who stands for nothing.

He doesn't excite the woman voters, he doesn't excite minority voters. Not even his base are excited by him.

The only reason anyone will hold their nose and vote for him is because they hate President Trump.

 

[Quasar44]

The circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are so peculiar, it is extremely unlikely they will be duplicated.

In 2016, the Democratic Party chose the worst possible candidate. Clinton was unpopular, under FBI investigation, and was lugging around a ton of baggage. Trump still managed to lose the popular vote.

Joe Biden is not a Hillary Clinton.

The Times wrote, "Right now, polls say Joe Biden has a healthy lead over President Trump. But we’ve been here before (cue 2016), and the polls were, frankly, wrong."

No, they were not!

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result. One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right | TheHill

The election was won by less than 80,000 votes. Axios reports that Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too."

Nearly everyone today has forgotten the effect James Comey had on the election. Eleven days before Election Day, FBI Director Comey reopened the FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton. Clinton had a substantial lead in the polls, but in the week that followed Comey's announcement her lead quickly evaporated. Two days before the election, Comey issued a "sorry about that" and closed the investigation for lack of anything new.

It was too late.

The Hill reports, "Exit polling found that late-deciders in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin broke for Trump by double-digit margins as high as 29 points."

During the election campaign, every voter in the country knew that the FBI was investigating Clinton. The FBI was also investigating the Trump campaign for its alleged cooperation with Russia. Voters were not aware of that investigation until after the election.

Trump is tied in every key state and the “silent majority “ will win

 

[Issa]

Libs!!!!! do you hate Trump enough to live the rest of your life in debt and poor with no way to ever retire?.....you must really hate him....if you are going to vote for Biden.....

trump's place is garbage along his base....the elections will prove that 2016 was not only a mistake but also it was rigged like trump said.
the whole world knows America always had that 20 some percent of the population dumb as a rock, racist and bigoted. 2 weeks and you'll go into hiding again.

 

[MisterBeale]

Such a pointless thread.

We'll find out soon enough. Why not just wait and see, no use worrying about it or shit talking about it now.

It won't be long now. A day, and then a day. . . and then, one day more.

 

[Rambunctious]

Libs!!!!! do you hate Trump enough to live the rest of your life in debt and poor with no way to ever retire?.....you must really hate him....if you are going to vote for Biden.....

trump's place is garbage along his base....the elections will prove that 2016 was not only a mistake but also it was rigged like trump said.
the whole world knows America always had that 20 some percent of the population dumb as a rock, racist and bigoted. 2 weeks and you'll go into hiding again.

You are out of your mind....don't you see the crowds showing up for Trump?...even during the drive over to events the streets become lined with Trump voters....they stand outside for days to get in to see him...Biden shows up and no one is there except a lone Trump supporter or two waving Trump flags....you are dreaming pal...the dems can't even cheat enough to overcome the butt kicking Joe is about to get....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are so peculiar, it is extremely unlikely they will be duplicated.

In 2016, the Democratic Party chose the worst possible candidate. Clinton was unpopular, under FBI investigation, and was lugging around a ton of baggage. Trump still managed to lose the popular vote.

Joe Biden is not a Hillary Clinton.

The Times wrote, "Right now, polls say Joe Biden has a healthy lead over President Trump. But we’ve been here before (cue 2016), and the polls were, frankly, wrong."

No, they were not!

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result. One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right | TheHill

The election was won by less than 80,000 votes. Axios reports that Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too."

Nearly everyone today has forgotten the effect James Comey had on the election. Eleven days before Election Day, FBI Director Comey reopened the FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton. Clinton had a substantial lead in the polls, but in the week that followed Comey's announcement her lead quickly evaporated. Two days before the election, Comey issued a "sorry about that" and closed the investigation for lack of anything new.

It was too late.

The Hill reports, "Exit polling found that late-deciders in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin broke for Trump by double-digit margins as high as 29 points."

During the election campaign, every voter in the country knew that the FBI was investigating Clinton. The FBI was also investigating the Trump campaign for its alleged cooperation with Russia. Voters were not aware of that investigation until after the election.

The circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are so peculiar, it is extremely unlikely they will be duplicated.

Corrupt, unhealthy Dem candidate with no excitment.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

The circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are so peculiar, it is extremely unlikely they will be duplicated.

In 2016, the Democratic Party chose the worst possible candidate. Clinton was unpopular, under FBI investigation, and was lugging around a ton of baggage. Trump still managed to lose the popular vote.

Joe Biden is not a Hillary Clinton.

The Times wrote, "Right now, polls say Joe Biden has a healthy lead over President Trump. But we’ve been here before (cue 2016), and the polls were, frankly, wrong."

No, they were not!

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result. One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right | TheHill

The election was won by less than 80,000 votes. Axios reports that Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too."

Nearly everyone today has forgotten the effect James Comey had on the election. Eleven days before Election Day, FBI Director Comey reopened the FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton. Clinton had a substantial lead in the polls, but in the week that followed Comey's announcement her lead quickly evaporated. Two days before the election, Comey issued a "sorry about that" and closed the investigation for lack of anything new.

It was too late.

The Hill reports, "Exit polling found that late-deciders in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin broke for Trump by double-digit margins as high as 29 points."

During the election campaign, every voter in the country knew that the FBI was investigating Clinton. The FBI was also investigating the Trump campaign for its alleged cooperation with Russia. Voters were not aware of that investigation until after the election.

I don't know, seems like a redux to me...

So, what did I get wrong? You didn't say. You just ignored what I said, and stated the opposite without clarification.

That is a typical Trumpism and totally meaningless.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

[/QUOTE]
You are out of your mind....don't you see the crowds showing up for Trump?...even during the drive over to events the streets become lined with Trump voters....they stand outside for days to get in to see him...Biden shows up and no one is there except a lone Trump supporter or two waving Trump flags....you are dreaming pal...the dems can't even cheat enough to overcome the butt kicking Joe is about to get....
[/QUOTE]

You don't get it do you despite it being explained to you countless times. You have got to be a Trump fan.

Biden does not want to attract large crowds. He is highly critical of Trump for holding several super spreader events while the pandemic is surging. What Trump is doing is just plain stupid.

Yesterday, there were 57,000 new cases of the virus, and over 225,000 Americans have died from the pandemic. The U.S. leads the world in number of cases and number of deaths. United States Coronavirus: 8,472,424 Cases and 225,552 Deaths - Worldometer

And Trump is responsible for spreading the virus with his mask-less crowds at super spreader events.

Biden has no intention of doing the same thing. Trump is making himself look very stupid and extremely careless.

In the meantime, because of Trump's sheer stupidity, Biden's lead in the polls is increasing. That is what really matters, not the mindless adoring admirers attracted to Trump's rallies.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

We seemed to have gotten away from the original topic of the thread -- the peculiar nation of the 2016 election. Here it is again.

The circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are so peculiar, it is extremely unlikely they will be duplicated.

In 2016, the Democratic Party chose the worst possible candidate. Clinton was unpopular, under FBI investigation, and was lugging around a ton of baggage. Trump still managed to lose the popular vote.

Joe Biden is not a Hillary Clinton.

The Times wrote, "Right now, polls say Joe Biden has a healthy lead over President Trump. But we’ve been here before (cue 2016), and the polls were, frankly, wrong."

No, they were not!

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result. One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right | TheHill

The election was won by less than 80,000 votes. Axios reports that Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too."

Nearly everyone today has forgotten the effect James Comey had on the election. Eleven days before Election Day, FBI Director Comey reopened the FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton. Clinton had a substantial lead in the polls, but in the week that followed Comey's announcement her lead quickly evaporated. Two days before the election, Comey issued a "sorry about that" and closed the investigation for lack of anything new.

It was too late.

The Hill reports, "Exit polling found that late-deciders in Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin broke for Trump by double-digit margins as high as 29 points."

During the election campaign, every voter in the country knew that the FBI was investigating Clinton. The FBI was also investigating the Trump campaign for its alleged cooperation with Russia. Voters were not aware of that investigation until after the election.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

And this.


Another aspect of the strange circumstances surrounding the 2016 election is that a significant number of Democratic voters are solely responsible for Trump's election victory.

Young Sanders supporters were aggrieved that their candidate didn't get the nomination, and, in their anger and disappointment, they managed to elect Trump.

Newsweek reports, "According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What's more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump.

"The impact of those votes was significant. In each of the three states that ultimately swung the election for Trump—Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania—Trump's margin of victory over Clinton was smaller than the number of Sanders voters who gave him their vote."

In Wisconsin, 51,000 Sanders supporters voted for Trump. Trump's margin of victory was 22,000.

In Michigan, 47,000 Sanders supporters voted for Trump. Trump's margin of victory was 10,000.

In Pennsylvania, 116,000 Sanders supporters voted for Trump. Trump's margin of victory was 44,000.

The young Sanders devotees bought Trump's con.



Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Sad to watch Bernie Sanders abandon his revolution. We welcome all voters who want to fix our rigged system and bring back our jobs.
8:04 PM · Jul 25, 2016

Bernie Sanders Voters Helped Trump Become President

Bernie Sanders supporters didn't just stay at home, they voted for Donald Trump in significant numbers last November.

www.newsweek.com

Those young Democrats will vote again in 2020, and no doubt they realize the horrible mistake they made.

They won't make that mistake again.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

National polls only measure the popular vote.

The state level polls were giving Hillary a 98% chance of winning.

Trump had no path to 270.

 

[Dale Smith]

You are out of your mind....don't you see the crowds showing up for Trump?...even during the drive over to events the streets become lined with Trump voters....they stand outside for days to get in to see him...Biden shows up and no one is there except a lone Trump supporter or two waving Trump flags....you are dreaming pal...the dems can't even cheat enough to overcome the butt kicking Joe is about to get....
[/QUOTE]

You don't get it do you despite it being explained to you countless times. You have got to be a Trump fan.

Biden does not want to attract large crowds. He is highly critical of Trump for holding several super spreader events while the pandemic is surging. What Trump is doing is just plain stupid.

Yesterday, there were 57,000 new cases of the virus, and over 225,000 Americans have died from the pandemic. The U.S. leads the world in number of cases and number of deaths. United States Coronavirus: 8,472,424 Cases and 225,552 Deaths - Worldometer

And Trump is responsible for spreading the virus with his mask-less crowds at super spreader events.

Biden has no intention of doing the same thing. Trump is making himself look very stupid and extremely careless.

In the meantime, because of Trump's sheer stupidity, Biden's lead in the polls is increasing. That is what really matters, not the mindless adoring admirers attracted to Trump's rallies.
[/QUOTE]


ROTFLMAO! You act as if Pedo Joe has a choice in the size of the crowds and would push them away.....nice spin.

If'n I was a leftard? I would spend more time trying to deflect attention away from the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop, Sandy Skank.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

"The impact of those votes was significant. In each of the three states that ultimately swung the election for Trump—Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania—Trump's margin of victory over Clinton was smaller than the number of Sanders voters who gave him their vote."

Voters in small states have more of a say as to who our next President will be as compared to voters in large states. I will prove that statement.

Obviously, the less voters an elector represents the more impact voters have in the selection of our President. One on one would be the ideal, but that would defeat the purpose of the Electoral College.

California has a population of 39.5 million people and has 55 electors to the Electoral College.

Montana has a population of 906,500 people and has three electors to the Electoral College. It is one of seven rural states that have three electors.

When one does the math, in California one elector represents 718,000 voters. In Montana one elector represents 302,000 voters.

The conclusion based entirely on math, the non-college educated farmer in Montana has 2.38 times the impact of a college educated teacher in California.

And we know that -- to our everlasting regret -- the farmer and many like him in the rural counties of America chose Trump.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"The impact of those votes was significant. In each of the three states that ultimately swung the election for Trump—Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania—Trump's margin of victory over Clinton was smaller than the number of Sanders voters who gave him their vote."

Voters in small states have more of a say as to who our next President will be as compared to voters in large states. I will prove that statement.

Obviously, the less voters an elector represents the more impact voters have in the selection of our President. One on one would be the ideal, but that would defeat the purpose of the Electoral College.

California has a population of 39.5 million people and has 55 electors to the Electoral College.

Montana has a population of 906,500 people and has three electors to the Electoral College. It is one of seven rural states that have three electors.

When one does the math, in California one elector represents 718 voters. In Montana one elector represents 302 voters.

The conclusion based entirely on math, the non-college educated farmer in Montana has 2.38 times the impact of a college educated teacher in California.

And we know that -- to our everlasting regret -- the farmer and many like him in the rural counties of America chose Trump.

California has a population of 39.5 million people and has 55 electors to the Electoral College.

Only 53 of them are because of their population.

When one does the math, in California one elector represents 718 voters.

You mean 718,000. But the proper math is 39.5 million/53 = 745,000

Montana has a population of 906,500 people and has three electors to the Electoral College.

Only 1 of them is because of their population.

In Montana one elector represents 302 voters.

906,500

The conclusion based entirely on math, the non-college educated farmer in Montana has 2.38 times the impact of a college educated teacher in California.

The useful Montana farmer has slightly less impact than the addict crapping on the street in S.F.

 

[Issa]

Libs!!!!! do you hate Trump enough to live the rest of your life in debt and poor with no way to ever retire?.....you must really hate him....if you are going to vote for Biden.....

trump's place is garbage along his base....the elections will prove that 2016 was not only a mistake but also it was rigged like trump said.
the whole world knows America always had that 20 some percent of the population dumb as a rock, racist and bigoted. 2 weeks and you'll go into hiding again.

You are out of your mind....don't you see the crowds showing up for Trump?...even during the drive over to events the streets become lined with Trump voters....they stand outside for days to get in to see him...Biden shows up and no one is there except a lone Trump supporter or two waving Trump flags....you are dreaming pal...the dems can't even cheat enough to overcome the butt kicking Joe is about to get....

No where near obama crowds...trump's base is a cult and cults do follow their leader.
I live ina an ultra blue city with millions of people in my circle there are 100s of people I cant name 10 that would have the time to line up for a political rally for hours....we are extremely busy...trump cultists are Mostly overweight too and look angry. I suggest they take walks during rallies with their fat leader to burn all that greasy fat food they eat and look for jobs and get busy.