What drives anti-government extremists?

[Howey]

You're lying again. Who authorized the harassment of citizens by the BLM?

There we have our answer. To REAL Americans, it's "enforcement of laws", to others it's "government harrasment".

You didn't answer the question. Was there a court order or authority who sent in armed BLM agents to kill cattle and harass and intimidation with physical violence? Answer that.

There 2 as a court order for the BLM to evict a racist welfare king. What follows that was a figment of your imagination.

 

[Stephanie]

I have my own beliefs and opinions, but I'd really like to hear from others.

What drives anti-government extremists? You would have to ask Bill Ayers and other domestic liberal terrorists.

Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma City


The slaughter engineered by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, men steeped in the conspiracy theories and white-hot fury of the American radical right, marked the opening shot in a new kind of domestic political extremism — a revolutionary ideology whose practitioners do not hesitate to carry out attacks directed at entirely innocent victims, people selected essentially at random to make a political point.

After Oklahoma, it was no longer sufficient for many American right-wing terrorists to strike at a target of political significance — instead, they reached for higher and higher body counts, reasoning that they had to eclipse McVeigh's attack to win attention.



July 28, 1995
Antigovernment extremist Charles Ray Polk is arrested after trying to purchase a machine gun from an undercover police officer, and is later indicted by federal grand jury for plotting to blow up the Internal Revenue Service building in Austin, Texas.

October 9, 1995
Saboteurs derail an Amtrak passenger train near Hyder, Ariz., killing one person and injuring about 70 others. Several antigovernment messages, signed by the "Sons of Gestapo," are left behind. The perpetrators remain at large.

November 9, 1995
Oklahoma Constitutional Militia leader Willie Ray Lampley, his wife Cecilia and another man, John Dare Baird, are arrested as they prepare explosives to bomb numerous targets, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, gay bars and abortion clinics.


December 18, 1995
An Internal Revenue Service (IRS) employee discovers a plastic drum packed with ammonium nitrate and fuel oil in a parking lot behind the IRS building in Reno, Nev. The device failed to explode a day earlier when a three-foot fuse went out prematurely. Ten days later, tax protester Joseph Martin Bailie is arrested


January 18, 1996
Peter Kevin Langan, the pseudonymous "Commander Pedro" who leads the underground Aryan Republican Army, is arrested after a shootout with the FBI in Ohio.


April 11, 1996
Antigovernment activist and self-described "survivalist" Ray Hamblin is charged with illegal possession of explosives after authorities find 460 pounds of the high explosive Tovex, 746 pounds of ANFO blasting agent and 15 homemade hand grenades on his property in Hood River, Ore



April 12, 1996
Apparently inspired by his reading of a neo-Nazi tract, Larry Wayne Shoemake kills one black man and wounds seven other people, including a reporter, during a racist shooting spree in a black neighborhood in Jackson, Miss.


MANY, MANY MORE RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS HERE


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

and where are the ones of the terror from the left?
or they never cause any I suppose or you don't care about those?
give us a break

 

[Dad2three]

I did. You started off with the asinine claim the "freedom" doesn't mean what I think it does. Since we've never really conversed before, I was bemused by your presumption that you have any ******* idea what I think freedom means, so I thought I'd ask you - to see how close your unfounded guess might be. You respond with a bunch of glib, and frankly 'bumper sticker'-ish comments (apparently part of some partisan screed you're engaged in.) Anyway, you don't seem to be interested in being taken seriously. Nevermind.

Right wingers ONLY know 'freedom' as defined by Rush, Beck, Hannity, Faux, etc. NOTHING what our Founding Fathers thought twas 'freedom'

So what? You think I'm a 'right winger'?

Libertarians are FARRRRR right on economics, everything else they 'believe in' is myths and fairy tales!

 

[Ibentoken]

There we have our answer. To REAL Americans, it's "enforcement of laws", to others it's "government harrasment".

You didn't answer the question. Was there a court order or authority who sent in armed BLM agents to kill cattle and harass and intimidation with physical violence? Answer that.

FALSE PREMISE, DISTORTIONS AND LIES, THE ONLY THING RIGHT WINGERS EVER HAVE


Under BLM permits first issued in 1954, Bundy grazed his cattle legally and paid his grazing fees on an area of public land later called the "Bunkerville Allotment" in Clark County until 1993. As a protest in 1993, Bundy did not pay to renew his permit and it was canceled one year later.


Though the agency made several attempts to allow Bundy to renew his permit, Bundy declared that he no longer recognized the BLM's authority to regulate his grazing and asserted that he had "vested rights" to graze on the land.



Federal courts have consistently ruled against Bundy, finding that he is a trespasser with no right to graze cattle on federal public land and authorizing the BLM to remove his cattle and levy damages for unauthorized use.


1998_U_S__Dist__LEXIS_23835



Everything you need to know about the long fight between Cliven Bundy and the federal government - The Washington Post

You can't tell us who gave the order for the BLM to use force. That's all we need to know. Leftists lie.

 

[Dad2three]

I guess the primary drivers are ignorance, fear, and hate - mixed with various religious views.

"Huh?"

Those guys who were the most radically liberal and progressive of their day?

 

[Ibentoken]

There we have our answer. To REAL Americans, it's "enforcement of laws", to others it's "government harrasment".

You didn't answer the question. Was there a court order or authority who sent in armed BLM agents to kill cattle and harass and intimidation with physical violence? Answer that.

There 2 as a court order for the BLM to evict a racist welfare king. What follows that was a figment of your imagination.

Give us a link.

 

[Stephanie]

Right wingers ONLY know 'freedom' as defined by Rush, Beck, Hannity, Faux, etc. NOTHING what our Founding Fathers thought twas 'freedom'

So what? You think I'm a 'right winger'?

Libertarians are FARRRRR right on economics, everything else they 'believe in' is myths and fairy tales!

and evidently you just BELIEVE everything you read true or not
from dailykos to the southern poverty law center

 

[Ibentoken]

Leftists lying and squirming like filthy maggots.

 

[Dad2three]

Minor describes it. Cherry picking is reassuring and comforting. Who sent in the BLM with the authority to use force?

Force? Oh that's the US CONSTITUTION!!!

Pretender. You have no credibility.

Remember social studies in junior high school? We all learned that there are three branches of the federal government: the Legislative Branch, which makes laws and sets taxes; the Executive Branch, which ENFORCES and administers federal law and represents the nation internationally; and the Judicial Branch, which interprets the law within the framework of the Constitution.

 

[Dad2three]

Leftists lying and squirming like filthy maggots.

Stop projecting Bubba

 

[Stephanie]

anyone ever figure out what a Poverty law center has to do with putting out this kind of stuff on terror from the right?

anyone ever see them put out information of terror from the left? or from Black, Asian, Indian, etc etc

makes you wonder doesn't it

 

[Ibentoken]

Force? Oh that's the US CONSTITUTION!!!

Pretender. You have no credibility.

Remember social studies in junior high school? We all learned that there are three branches of the federal government: the Legislative Branch, which makes laws and sets taxes; the Executive Branch, which ENFORCES and administers federal law and represents the nation internationally; and the Judicial Branch, which interprets the law within the framework of the Constitution.

Who authorized the BLM to use force and kill livestock?

 

[Dad2three]

What drives anti-government extremists? You would have to ask Bill Ayers and other domestic liberal terrorists.

Terror From the Right: Plots, Conspiracies and Racist Rampages Since Oklahoma City


The slaughter engineered by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, men steeped in the conspiracy theories and white-hot fury of the American radical right, marked the opening shot in a new kind of domestic political extremism — a revolutionary ideology whose practitioners do not hesitate to carry out attacks directed at entirely innocent victims, people selected essentially at random to make a political point.

After Oklahoma, it was no longer sufficient for many American right-wing terrorists to strike at a target of political significance — instead, they reached for higher and higher body counts, reasoning that they had to eclipse McVeigh's attack to win attention.



July 28, 1995
Antigovernment extremist Charles Ray Polk is arrested after trying to purchase a machine gun from an undercover police officer, and is later indicted by federal grand jury for plotting to blow up the Internal Revenue Service building in Austin, Texas.

October 9, 1995
Saboteurs derail an Amtrak passenger train near Hyder, Ariz., killing one person and injuring about 70 others. Several antigovernment messages, signed by the "Sons of Gestapo," are left behind. The perpetrators remain at large.

November 9, 1995
Oklahoma Constitutional Militia leader Willie Ray Lampley, his wife Cecilia and another man, John Dare Baird, are arrested as they prepare explosives to bomb numerous targets, including the Southern Poverty Law Center, gay bars and abortion clinics.


December 18, 1995
An Internal Revenue Service (IRS) employee discovers a plastic drum packed with ammonium nitrate and fuel oil in a parking lot behind the IRS building in Reno, Nev. The device failed to explode a day earlier when a three-foot fuse went out prematurely. Ten days later, tax protester Joseph Martin Bailie is arrested


January 18, 1996
Peter Kevin Langan, the pseudonymous "Commander Pedro" who leads the underground Aryan Republican Army, is arrested after a shootout with the FBI in Ohio.


April 11, 1996
Antigovernment activist and self-described "survivalist" Ray Hamblin is charged with illegal possession of explosives after authorities find 460 pounds of the high explosive Tovex, 746 pounds of ANFO blasting agent and 15 homemade hand grenades on his property in Hood River, Ore



April 12, 1996
Apparently inspired by his reading of a neo-Nazi tract, Larry Wayne Shoemake kills one black man and wounds seven other people, including a reporter, during a racist shooting spree in a black neighborhood in Jackson, Miss.


MANY, MANY MORE RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS HERE


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

and where are the ones of the terror from the left?
or they never cause any I suppose or you don't care about those?
give us a break

PLEASE list some of those recent ones?


June 8, 2014
Jerad Miller, 31, and his wife, Amanda, 22, enter Cici’s Pizza in Las Vegas, Nev., where two police officers are eating lunch. Jerad Miller fatally shoots officer Igor Soldo, 31. As his partner, Alyn Beck, 41, tries to react, Miller shoots him in the throat, then both Millers shoot Beck several times. The pair leave a swastika and a Gadsden flag on Beck’s body. The yellow flag, a symbol used by the antigovernment “Patriot” movement, features a coiled snake with the words “Don’t Tread On Me.” On Soldo’s body, they place a note: “This is the start of the revolution.”


April 13, 2014
Frazier Glenn Miller (aka Frazier Glenn Cross), 73, a longtime racist and anti-Semite, is arrested after a gunman opens fire at a Jewish community center and a Jewish retirement community in Overland Park, Kansas, a suburb of Kansas City. Three people are killed, including a 14-year-old Eagle Scout and his grandfather.


March 27, 2014
Robert James Talbot Jr., 38, is arrested in Katy, Texas, by FBI agents who say he was about to rob an armored car. He is alleged to have been plotting to use C-4 explosives and weapons to rob banks and armored cars, blow up government buildings and mosques, and kill police officers. Prosecutors say he is behind a Facebook page called “American Insurgent Movement,” on which he posted antigovernment screeds, called for violence against public officials, and ranted about Muslims and LGBT people.


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right


lol

 

[R.C. Christian]

People like the pretend Indian drive "anti-government extremists"

 

[Dad2three]

Pretender. You have no credibility.

Remember social studies in junior high school? We all learned that there are three branches of the federal government: the Legislative Branch, which makes laws and sets taxes; the Executive Branch, which ENFORCES and administers federal law and represents the nation internationally; and the Judicial Branch, which interprets the law within the framework of the Constitution.

Who authorized the BLM to use force and kill livestock?

Don't know how a court of law works huh? Or who carries out those COURT ORDERS?

 

[Dad2three]

anyone ever figure out what a Poverty law center has to do with putting out this kind of stuff on terror from the right?

anyone ever see them put out information of terror from the left? or from Black, Asian, Indian, etc etc

makes you wonder doesn't it

Only if you're an ignorant tool. The terror is coming mainly from one direction, and it isn't the liberal side like the US Founders were on!

 

[Ibentoken]

Remember social studies in junior high school? We all learned that there are three branches of the federal government: the Legislative Branch, which makes laws and sets taxes; the Executive Branch, which ENFORCES and administers federal law and represents the nation internationally; and the Judicial Branch, which interprets the law within the framework of the Constitution.

Who authorized the BLM to use force and kill livestock?

Don't know how a court of law works huh? Or who carries out those COURT ORDERS?

Give us a link to the court order, you lying fake.

 

[Ibentoken]

This is the rest of the story that the filthy lying trash doesn't want to talk about.
Neil Kornz | ConservativeHQ.com

 

[Harry Dresden]

Even though most liberals are entirely disappointed with Obama, we still had a better chance with him than with a douche in magic underwear.

Why doesn't the GOP offer any ideas on how to make America better instead of trying to rip Obama down to Bush's level?

"Leftists love big government." Who started the big government's endless drug war? Leftist Nixon. Who signed the big government USAPATRIOT Act domestic spying plan? Leftist Bush Jr. Who secretly sold weapons to Islamic terrorists, "planting the seeds of 9/11"? Leftist Reagan.

Only "leftists" love the big government, right?

Even though most liberals are entirely disappointed with Obama,

yea you can tell by the posts here....Obama gets defended by most Liberals here no matter what the topic is....so they either believe the guy can do no wrong or they are just defending him because he is being dumped on from the righties.....BUT regardless....there a very few here who question the guy....

 

[Harry Dresden]

The leftist sees government as a security blanket and a binky.

The leftist sees government for what it is and should be.

the definition of what it should be is where the problem comes in....it seems everyone has their own interpretation of that....