What drives anti-government extremists?

[Dad2three]

How come nobody wants to talk about Kornze, Harry Reid and his son?

Weird, Bundy stopped paying in 1993 AND the BLM tried several times to work it out, BUT NOW YOU WANT A STRAWMAN? lol

 

[Dad2three]

lol, Lakota cracks me up

the left see government for what it is and should be

so they "the FEDERAL government) should take 200 armed agents to seize your homes?
and they should lay on FINE on you if you don't want to PURCHASE something from them
and they should tell you what kind of light bulbs, soda cups size, and that you and your children are little fatasses

what frikken joke
THIS federal government is out of control and has now under Obama become tyrants..he has UNLEASED every government agency on us to put their jackboots on our necks, they are coming after people who they see as political ENEMY'S with the IRS, the EPA will knock you down with regulations that wipe out how many jobs...they have taken over our insurance, our health care LIED to us TO DO IT...yet you post a thread whining about why should anyone be ANTI-government

Just MORE conservative crap, NOT based on reality or FACTS!

 

[Kosh]

Quite true. Parliament's attemps to impose an Anglican Episcopate on the colonists early in the eighteenth century aroused suspicions of precedent and the subordination of liberty to prerogative that proved absolutely real in the 1760s and '70s.

The Americans, members of the commonwealth who enjoyed unprecedented liberties and trememdous levels of happiness and prosperity, confronted a torrent of government intrusion and Toryism with violence and in short order. They concluded during the passage and implemantation of the Stamp Act, the Townsend duties, the Sugar Act, the Tea Act, the Boston Port Act, The Administration of Justice Act, the Massachusetts Government Act, the Quebec Act, the Quartering Act, the creation of the American Board of Customs Commissioners, stricter enforcement of the Navigation Laws, arbitrary judicial tenure and salaries, and a flurry of other measures and intrusions by Britain that her ministers had embarked on a "deliberate and systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."*

One of those opposing the Whigs was Lord Bute, who said that the people "have too much liberty." Does he sound like a typical lefty? Of course he does. “I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.”

* Thomas Jefferson

Exactly so. Why did they the King need all these taxes?

To pay for his adventurism in America and to cover the costs of government (His) programs that were deemed necessary.

Reminds Me of all the government programs sold to the American people about a compassionate government.

In other words, they dream it up, and the subjects will just have to pay for it.

Conservatives generally have no idea the 13 colonies agreed to pay England back for defending it during the French and Indian War

And the far left continues to show they do not history unless it was written for them in their far left programming.

 

[norwegen]

Here's one explanation from a bunch of anti-government (actually anti-oppressive-government) extremists.

Declaration of Independence - Text Transcript

Enjoy.

Quite true. Parliament's attemps to impose an Anglican Episcopate on the colonists early in the eighteenth century aroused suspicions of precedent and the subordination of liberty to prerogative that proved absolutely real in the 1760s and '70s.

The Americans, members of the commonwealth who enjoyed unprecedented liberties and trememdous levels of happiness and prosperity, confronted a torrent of government intrusion and Toryism with violence and in short order. They concluded during the passage and implemantation of the Stamp Act, the Townsend duties, the Sugar Act, the Tea Act, the Boston Port Act, The Administration of Justice Act, the Massachusetts Government Act, the Quebec Act, the Quartering Act, the creation of the American Board of Customs Commissioners, stricter enforcement of the Navigation Laws, arbitrary judicial tenure and salaries, and a flurry of other measures and intrusions by Britain that her ministers had embarked on a "deliberate and systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."*

One of those opposing the Whigs was Lord Bute, who said that the people "have too much liberty." Does he sound like a typical lefty? Of course he does. “I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.”

* Thomas Jefferson

Exactly so. Why did they the King need all these taxes?

To pay for his adventurism in America and to cover the costs of government (His) programs that were deemed necessary.

Reminds Me of all the government programs sold to the American people about a compassionate government.

In other words, they dream it up, and the subjects will just have to pay for it.

The conspiratorial planet that the Tories placed us on then, as the Democrats do now, could not mask their malevolent designs. As they say, absolute power corrupts absolutely, so officers engage the ignorant to retain it.

And with taxes, they acquire it. And naturally, especially for a king, a generous percentage is earmarked for private diversion.

 

[Kosh]

lol, Lakota cracks me up

the left see government for what it is and should be

so they "the FEDERAL government) should take 200 armed agents to seize your homes?
and they should lay on FINE on you if you don't want to PURCHASE something from them
and they should tell you what kind of light bulbs, soda cups size, and that you and your children are little fatasses

what frikken joke
THIS federal government is out of control and has now under Obama become tyrants..he has UNLEASED every government agency on us to put their jackboots on our necks, they are coming after people who they see as political ENEMY'S with the IRS, the EPA will knock you down with regulations that wipe out how many jobs...they have taken over our insurance, our health care LIED to us TO DO IT...yet you post a thread whining about why should anyone be ANTI-government

Just MORE conservative crap, NOT based on reality or FACTS!

From a far left Obama drone that does not understand anything beyond it's far left programming.

 

[Dad2three]

Here's one explanation from a bunch of anti-government (actually anti-oppressive-government) extremists.

Declaration of Independence - Text Transcript

Enjoy.

Nah, THAT only applies to England... Learn some history....

 

[Ibentoken]

Ooo, ooo, lookie here. I found a really mean anti-government extremist.....

"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."
John Kennedy

 

[Dad2three]

lol, Lakota cracks me up

the left see government for what it is and should be

so they "the FEDERAL government) should take 200 armed agents to seize your homes?
and they should lay on FINE on you if you don't want to PURCHASE something from them
and they should tell you what kind of light bulbs, soda cups size, and that you and your children are little fatasses

what frikken joke
THIS federal government is out of control and has now under Obama become tyrants..he has UNLEASED every government agency on us to put their jackboots on our necks, they are coming after people who they see as political ENEMY'S with the IRS, the EPA will knock you down with regulations that wipe out how many jobs...they have taken over our insurance, our health care LIED to us TO DO IT...yet you post a thread whining about why should anyone be ANTI-government

Just MORE conservative crap, NOT based on reality or FACTS!

From a far left Obama drone that does not understand anything beyond it's far left programming.

I get that conservatives HATE Gov't, but because Obama is governing right of Reagan, doesn't mean liberals love him, we just know the alternatives!

 

[Dad2three]

Ooo, ooo, lookie here. I found a really mean anti-government extremist.....

"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."
John Kennedy

Weird, Create a false premise and argue from there. What did you win?

 

[norwegen]

Those guys who were the most radically liberal and progressive of their day?

What does liberal mean?

The opposite of conservative

lib·er·al
adjective \ˈli-b(ə-)rəl\

: believing that government should be active in supporting social and political change : relating to or supporting political liberalism


ull Definition of LIBERAL
1
a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education>
b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2
a : marked by generosity : openhanded <a liberal giver>
b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal>


5
: broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms


Liberal - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

This just in: government involvement in social and political change is not one of our founding principles.

 

[Kosh]

Ooo, ooo, lookie here. I found a really mean anti-government extremist.....

"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."
John Kennedy

Well it was the paranoid far left LBJ that banned churches from being to contribute to political campaigns as he was scared he would be unseated by yet another "Catholic".

 

[Dad2three]

Quite true. Parliament's attemps to impose an Anglican Episcopate on the colonists early in the eighteenth century aroused suspicions of precedent and the subordination of liberty to prerogative that proved absolutely real in the 1760s and '70s.

The Americans, members of the commonwealth who enjoyed unprecedented liberties and trememdous levels of happiness and prosperity, confronted a torrent of government intrusion and Toryism with violence and in short order. They concluded during the passage and implemantation of the Stamp Act, the Townsend duties, the Sugar Act, the Tea Act, the Boston Port Act, The Administration of Justice Act, the Massachusetts Government Act, the Quebec Act, the Quartering Act, the creation of the American Board of Customs Commissioners, stricter enforcement of the Navigation Laws, arbitrary judicial tenure and salaries, and a flurry of other measures and intrusions by Britain that her ministers had embarked on a "deliberate and systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."*

One of those opposing the Whigs was Lord Bute, who said that the people "have too much liberty." Does he sound like a typical lefty? Of course he does. “I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.”

* Thomas Jefferson

Exactly so. Why did they the King need all these taxes?

To pay for his adventurism in America and to cover the costs of government (His) programs that were deemed necessary.

Reminds Me of all the government programs sold to the American people about a compassionate government.

In other words, they dream it up, and the subjects will just have to pay for it.

The conspiratorial planet that the Tories placed us on then, as the Democrats do now, could not mask their malevolent designs. As they say, absolute power corrupts absolutely, so officers engage the ignorant to retain it.

And with taxes, they acquire it. And naturally, especially for a king, a generous percentage is earmarked for private diversion.

Torrie's were/are conservatives, the same ones who stood with King George in 1776 stand against Obama today. Grow a brain...

 

[Darkwind]

Quite true. Parliament's attemps to impose an Anglican Episcopate on the colonists early in the eighteenth century aroused suspicions of precedent and the subordination of liberty to prerogative that proved absolutely real in the 1760s and '70s.

The Americans, members of the commonwealth who enjoyed unprecedented liberties and trememdous levels of happiness and prosperity, confronted a torrent of government intrusion and Toryism with violence and in short order. They concluded during the passage and implemantation of the Stamp Act, the Townsend duties, the Sugar Act, the Tea Act, the Boston Port Act, The Administration of Justice Act, the Massachusetts Government Act, the Quebec Act, the Quartering Act, the creation of the American Board of Customs Commissioners, stricter enforcement of the Navigation Laws, arbitrary judicial tenure and salaries, and a flurry of other measures and intrusions by Britain that her ministers had embarked on a "deliberate and systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."*

One of those opposing the Whigs was Lord Bute, who said that the people "have too much liberty." Does he sound like a typical lefty? Of course he does. &#8220;I do think at a certain point you&#8217;ve made enough money.&#8221;

* Thomas Jefferson

Exactly so. Why did they the King need all these taxes?

To pay for his adventurism in America and to cover the costs of government (His) programs that were deemed necessary.

Reminds Me of all the government programs sold to the American people about a compassionate government.

In other words, they dream it up, and the subjects will just have to pay for it.

Conservatives generally have no idea the 13 colonies agreed to pay England back for defending it during the French and Indian War

Too funny....

I'll bet you still think that there is only so much money to go around too?

The King and English Parliament decided to pay for the entire American adventure and agressive war against the French on the backs of the American Colonies. The Colonies were proving to be very productive and lucrative in economic generation and they were providing a valuable commodity (tobacco) that was beginning to outstrip the tea that the East India Company was attempting to force upon the Americas for greater profit. You could say that even back then, government in bed with business was a bad deal...kind of like the current administration of this country. But that is another debate entirely.

The facts remain are these. Governments expand and forcibly take from the citizens when they do, to the detriment of both.

 

[Ibentoken]

How come nobody wants to talk about Kornze, Harry Reid and his son?

Weird, Bundy stopped paying in 1993 AND the BLM tried several times to work it out, BUT NOW YOU WANT A STRAWMAN? lol[/etaTQUOTE]

What's the deal with Kornze and Reid? There's nothing corrupt there, huh. They killed livestock. Just part of the job, huh. They pushed people around and used police dogs. You think that's appropriate for your federal government?

 

[Dad2three]

Here's one explanation from a bunch of anti-government (actually anti-oppressive-government) extremists.

Declaration of Independence - Text Transcript

Enjoy.

That's anti-monarchy little moron. And later on when the anti-government nutters went against Washington, he crushed their insurrectionist asses.

Did you know Thomas Jefferson was one of these "anti-government nutters"?

I doubt you did.

The LIBERAL Jefferson who gave US a strong federal Gov't and was concerned with the wealthy getting to strong in the US?

 

[Darkwind]

Exactly so. Why did they the King need all these taxes?

To pay for his adventurism in America and to cover the costs of government (His) programs that were deemed necessary.

Reminds Me of all the government programs sold to the American people about a compassionate government.

In other words, they dream it up, and the subjects will just have to pay for it.

The conspiratorial planet that the Tories placed us on then, as the Democrats do now, could not mask their malevolent designs. As they say, absolute power corrupts absolutely, so officers engage the ignorant to retain it.

And with taxes, they acquire it. And naturally, especially for a king, a generous percentage is earmarked for private diversion.

Torrie's were/are conservatives, the same ones who stood with King George in 1776 stand against Obama today. Grow a brain...

A bold faced lie.

 

[Dad2three]

This is for all you Harry Reid lovers.
The Founding Fathers Understood The Importance Of States' Rights | Representative John Becker (R) | The Ohio House of Representatives

GROW A BRAIN. The Federalist won (strong FEDERAL rights) the Anti Federalists lost (weak federalist, Articles of Confederation)....

 

[Ibentoken]

This is for all you Harry Reid lovers.
The Founding Fathers Understood The Importance Of States' Rights | Representative John Becker (R) | The Ohio House of Representatives

GROW A BRAIN. The Federalist won (strong FEDERAL rights) the Anti Federalists lost (weak federalist, Articles of Confederation)....

You're a frosted cupcake.

 

[Dad2three]

What does liberal mean?

The opposite of conservative

lib·er·al
adjective \&#712;li-b(&#601;-)r&#601;l\

: believing that government should be active in supporting social and political change : relating to or supporting political liberalism


ull Definition of LIBERAL
1
a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education>
b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2
a : marked by generosity : openhanded <a liberal giver>
b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal>


5
: broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms


Liberal - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

This just in: government involvement in social and political change is not one of our founding principles.

The Founders would disagree. Try reading about them...

 

[Darkwind]

What does liberal mean?

The opposite of conservative

lib·er·al
adjective \&#712;li-b(&#601;-)r&#601;l\

: believing that government should be active in supporting social and political change : relating to or supporting political liberalism


ull Definition of LIBERAL
1
a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education>
b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2
a : marked by generosity : openhanded <a liberal giver>
b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal>


5
: broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms


Liberal - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

This just in: government involvement in social and political change is not one of our founding principles.

They often confuse the definition of modern liberalism with that of classical liberalism. In the classical liberalism, the ideology was that some government was necessary, but only in as much as could be taken. Thomas Paine was very eloquent about government and a necessary evil comparison.

I believe the exact quote is:

Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.