what did the russians do to control the ballot box.... ?

[PoliticalChic]

Let's put a stake through your heart.....as, clearly there is no brain to target.


"Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

...the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

....major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons,...."
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



Now....wipe that egg off your face, and the drool off your chin.

No...wait......it was an improvement.

ALL investigated, NADA, dupe.

And so, yet one more "is not, isssss nootttttt!" post from a brain-dead Liberal simpleton.

Bill's wife: a career criminal and, directly from the NYTimes....a "congenital liar."

And those statements from the Times about her being the bagwoman in the uranium deal......
...all true, as is the fact that you are a lying moron.

I'll go with the US justice system over your bs hate propagandists, dupe/conspiracy nutjob. lol

Which parts of the NYTimes article are you denying?

And....are you still trying deny that she was called a 'congenital liar' in the Times?


Speak up, blanko.

All of it duh. Again.
By a RW tool...

Why are you back?
I already showed you to be a lying weasel?

What's left to say?

 

[PoliticalChic]

And so, yet one more "is not, isssss nootttttt!" post from a brain-dead Liberal simpleton.

Bill's wife: a career criminal and, directly from the NYTimes....a "congenital liar."

And those statements from the Times about her being the bagwoman in the uranium deal......
...all true, as is the fact that you are a lying moron.

I'll go with the US justice system over your bs hate propagandists, dupe/conspiracy nutjob. lol

Which parts of the NYTimes article are you denying?

And....are you still trying deny that she was called a 'congenital liar' in the Times?


Speak up, blanko.

All of it, dupe. Safire is a RW -a-hole liar DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Sooo.....to get it straight....you've denied that the NY Times published this:

"Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady -- a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation -- is a congenital liar."
Essay;Blizzard of Lies


That makes you a congenital liar, too, huh?

Gads, that was simple.

You're simple lol...

Finish the sentence, weasel...

'Simply brilliant'?
Simply magnificent'?
Simply awesome'?

 

[dannyboys]

I believe Hillary was "hurt" by people uncovering her illegal private server and telling the world about what she had done.
I believe her campaign was hurt when someone uncovered the collusion with CNN and corruption within her campaign.
I beleive that had she not been complicit and corrupt and a ******* liar she would have easily beaten Trump.
What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.
Does anyone find it extremely hypocritical of the LIBs to now tell everyone that "it doesn't matter how any possible 'dirt' on Trump is turned up. Leaking classified information and giving it to the WAPO/NYT so they can EXPOSE TRUMP!!!!! is just fine now but having the truth come out about Hillary is wrong!
******* hypocrites!
I can't WAIT for the DEMs to stand on the White House steps in a month and tell the world that in fact there is ZERO evidence that anyone on the Trump campaign had any 'nefarious' involvement with the Russians either before or after the election.
And that in fact there are a number of people working in the intelligence agencies who are going to face federal criminal charges for leaking classified information.

What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.

Someone?
You act as if that is still a mystery. You know who did it but won't admit it. I don't blame you thought as that admission would blow the entire narrative.

I ask that question to see the various tortured responses I get to a rather simple question.

The Russians were behind the hacking. That is established fact.

The release of that material hurt Clinton with voters. Even you admit that just not who released it.

By default then, if the leak hurt Clinton, it had to have helped Trump. The Russians helped Trump. The only question left then is, did the Trump campaign and it's members work in concert with the Russians?

I 100% totally agree that the hackers were either Russian or more likely Romanian who sold gave the hacked emails to Putin. I don't care who released "damaging information" about the *****.
The FACT there was "damaging information" is the point asshole!
Yes by default the "damaging information" exposing one candidate will help the candidate who did not have any "damaging information" to expose.
One and one make two!
The FBI REPEATEDLY warned the DNC that their email server was in danger of being hacked. The 'man-buns' in Hillary's campaign hired to keep the DNCs emails from being hacked REFUSED to allow the FBI experts come in and put up up-to-date firewalls.
Blame the ***** Rooy Mook and Hillary for their **** up. NOT the Russians or Trump.

The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked.

Why on Earth would you accept that type of attack on our system? Will an equivalent attack on a Republican candidate be required before you find fault with the tactic?

If any REP behaves the way Hillary did I welcome their defeat and public disgrace.
The next time it happens be sure to let us all know OK?

You would welcome foreign interference in our elections?

The GOD's honor truth:
If ANY political party in the country was behaving in a corrupt manner like the DNC. Had a leading candidate who had done what Hillary did with an illegal server when she was SS and done what The Ramen Noodle Head Debbie had done. Had a scum bucket like Brazil doing what she did. Had fucked over their second candidate like they did to Bernie.
And then someone, anyone, anywhere had exposed what that political party was up to I would be delighted if the information was released to the potential voters.
If it is proved by the committees that anyone on the Trump campaign ever 'colluded' with the Russians in the sense of: "If you release information to hurt Hillary's chances and don't release any of the 'truck loads' of bad shit you have on Trump he tells me to tell you he'll owe you BIGLEAUGE and make the sanctions on you go away or whatever else he can do to help you take over central Europe again" I will be the FIRST person to demand Trump be impeached.
The FACT is the only 'smoke' that's out there is the smoke the LIB MSM and the sore losers in the remnants of the DEM party are trying to blow up people's asses.
The DEMs are getting quite a reputation for climbing on rotten dead horses and refusing to get off no matter how much they end up looking like a bunch of Special Needs kids trying to fix a ******* lawnmower.
DEMS: The Party of Trayvon Martin, Big Mike, and the Baltimore prosecutor.

The Party of LOSERS!

 

[dannyboys]

1. "You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials."

Why are you pretending that I said that?

Is it because I smacked your knuckles....again.....by proving that there is no evidence....nor will there ever be.....that "It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."

That's your quote...and I utterly destroyed it.




2. I've noticed that you alternate between bafflement and falsification, leaving an observer with the impression of one on a bungee cord.

Or, in your case, a dope on a rope.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

Investigating doesn't mean guilt does it? They have reason to believe, no evidence yet, otherwise you wouldn't need to investigate.

Where did I say it meant guilt?
Can you read?

PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information.

I'm asserting that if that were true, then how can Trump be under investigation for his connection to something that isn't real?

"PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information."

That's a fact...just as you've been revealed as a lying low-life is a fact.


Here, more folks asserting that there is no such evidencde:

"Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.

TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart






-------------------------------------------------------------------

"While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states."
FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is no evidence of the slander that the Russians and the Trump campaign collaborated.....
So saith Clapper, Comey, Rogers...and Michael Morrell.

Morrell....presumed head of the CIA in a Hillary presidency....

"Morrell wrote an op-ed for the New York Times back in August where he both announced his support for Hillary Clinton and argued that Trump was a puppet of Vladimir Putin, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” However, he’s now changed his tune and believes that Mr. Trump is not only innocent of any collaboration with Russia but he further argued that the “Trump dossier” released a few months ago is likely a fraud. "
Intelligence Chiefs say NO Evidence of Trump-Russia Connection

Answer my question, idiot.

How can Trump be under investigation for connections to something that doesn't exist?

Just because someone's name is included in an investigation in no way 'proves' that perso did anything wrong.
GOD you're an asshole!
In ANY investigation at ANY level within the legal system there can be a thousand names listed.
Just because the name of a six month old who is the daughter of someone you witnessed a crime is 'listed' does that mean the baby is 'under investigation????
******* GROW UP!!!!

 

[francoHFW]

I'll go with the US justice system over your bs hate propagandists, dupe/conspiracy nutjob. lol

Which parts of the NYTimes article are you denying?

And....are you still trying deny that she was called a 'congenital liar' in the Times?


Speak up, blanko.

All of it, dupe. Safire is a RW -a-hole liar DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Sooo.....to get it straight....you've denied that the NY Times published this:

"Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady -- a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation -- is a congenital liar."
Essay;Blizzard of Lies


That makes you a congenital liar, too, huh?

Gads, that was simple.

You're simple lol...

Finish the sentence, weasel...

'Simply brilliant'?
Simply magnificent'?
Simply awesome'?

Simple as in simpleton.

 

[francoHFW]

Someone?
You act as if that is still a mystery. You know who did it but won't admit it. I don't blame you thought as that admission would blow the entire narrative.

I ask that question to see the various tortured responses I get to a rather simple question.

The Russians were behind the hacking. That is established fact.

The release of that material hurt Clinton with voters. Even you admit that just not who released it.

By default then, if the leak hurt Clinton, it had to have helped Trump. The Russians helped Trump. The only question left then is, did the Trump campaign and it's members work in concert with the Russians?

I 100% totally agree that the hackers were either Russian or more likely Romanian who sold gave the hacked emails to Putin. I don't care who released "damaging information" about the *****.
The FACT there was "damaging information" is the point asshole!
Yes by default the "damaging information" exposing one candidate will help the candidate who did not have any "damaging information" to expose.
One and one make two!
The FBI REPEATEDLY warned the DNC that their email server was in danger of being hacked. The 'man-buns' in Hillary's campaign hired to keep the DNCs emails from being hacked REFUSED to allow the FBI experts come in and put up up-to-date firewalls.
Blame the ***** Rooy Mook and Hillary for their **** up. NOT the Russians or Trump.

The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked.

Why on Earth would you accept that type of attack on our system? Will an equivalent attack on a Republican candidate be required before you find fault with the tactic?

If any REP behaves the way Hillary did I welcome their defeat and public disgrace.
The next time it happens be sure to let us all know OK?

You would welcome foreign interference in our elections?

The GOD's honor truth:
If ANY political party in the country was behaving in a corrupt manner like the DNC. Had a leading candidate who had done what Hillary did with an illegal server when she was SS and done what The Ramen Noodle Head Debbie had done. Had a scum bucket like Brazil doing what she did. Had fucked over their second candidate like they did to Bernie.
And then someone, anyone, anywhere had exposed what that political party was up to I would be delighted if the information was released to the potential voters.
If it is proved by the committees that anyone on the Trump campaign ever 'colluded' with the Russians in the sense of: "If you release information to hurt Hillary's chances and don't release any of the 'truck loads' of bad shit you have on Trump he tells me to tell you he'll owe you BIGLEAUGE and make the sanctions on you go away or whatever else he can do to help you take over central Europe again" I will be the FIRST person to demand Trump be impeached.
The FACT is the only 'smoke' that's out there is the smoke the LIB MSM and the sore losers in the remnants of the DEM party are trying to blow up people's asses.
The DEMs are getting quite a reputation for climbing on rotten dead horses and refusing to get off no matter how much they end up looking like a bunch of Special Needs kids trying to fix a ******* lawnmower.
DEMS: The Party of Trayvon Martin, Big Mike, and the Baltimore prosecutor.

The Party of LOSERS!

So much more real world evidence than there ever was against Clinton, dupe. Try changing the channel and getting some real news. DUH.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

Investigating doesn't mean guilt does it? They have reason to believe, no evidence yet, otherwise you wouldn't need to investigate.

Where did I say it meant guilt?
Can you read?

PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information.

I'm asserting that if that were true, then how can Trump be under investigation for his connection to something that isn't real?

"PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information."

That's a fact...just as you've been revealed as a lying low-life is a fact.


Here, more folks asserting that there is no such evidencde:

"Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.

TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart






-------------------------------------------------------------------

"While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states."
FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is no evidence of the slander that the Russians and the Trump campaign collaborated.....
So saith Clapper, Comey, Rogers...and Michael Morrell.

Morrell....presumed head of the CIA in a Hillary presidency....

"Morrell wrote an op-ed for the New York Times back in August where he both announced his support for Hillary Clinton and argued that Trump was a puppet of Vladimir Putin, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” However, he’s now changed his tune and believes that Mr. Trump is not only innocent of any collaboration with Russia but he further argued that the “Trump dossier” released a few months ago is likely a fraud. "
Intelligence Chiefs say NO Evidence of Trump-Russia Connection

Answer my question, idiot.

How can Trump be under investigation for connections to something that doesn't exist?

Just because someone's name is included in an investigation in no way 'proves' that perso did anything wrong.
GOD you're an asshole!
In ANY investigation at ANY level within the legal system there can be a thousand names listed.
Just because the name of a six month old who is the daughter of someone you witnessed a crime is 'listed' does that mean the baby is 'under investigation????
******* GROW UP!!!!

I never said anyone committed a crime or was guilty of anything, dope.

Try reading and understanding the conversation before jumping in.

 

[Papageorgio]

Investigating doesn't mean guilt does it? They have reason to believe, no evidence yet, otherwise you wouldn't need to investigate.

Where did I say it meant guilt?
Can you read?

PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information.

I'm asserting that if that were true, then how can Trump be under investigation for his connection to something that isn't real?

"PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information."

That's a fact...just as you've been revealed as a lying low-life is a fact.


Here, more folks asserting that there is no such evidencde:

"Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.

TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart






-------------------------------------------------------------------

"While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states."
FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is no evidence of the slander that the Russians and the Trump campaign collaborated.....
So saith Clapper, Comey, Rogers...and Michael Morrell.

Morrell....presumed head of the CIA in a Hillary presidency....

"Morrell wrote an op-ed for the New York Times back in August where he both announced his support for Hillary Clinton and argued that Trump was a puppet of Vladimir Putin, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” However, he’s now changed his tune and believes that Mr. Trump is not only innocent of any collaboration with Russia but he further argued that the “Trump dossier” released a few months ago is likely a fraud. "
Intelligence Chiefs say NO Evidence of Trump-Russia Connection

Answer my question, idiot.

How can Trump be under investigation for connections to something that doesn't exist?

Just because someone's name is included in an investigation in no way 'proves' that perso did anything wrong.
GOD you're an asshole!
In ANY investigation at ANY level within the legal system there can be a thousand names listed.
Just because the name of a six month old who is the daughter of someone you witnessed a crime is 'listed' does that mean the baby is 'under investigation????
******* GROW UP!!!!

I never said anyone committed a crime or was guilty of anything, dope.

Try reading and understanding the conversation before jumping in.

You claimed they had "evidence" and that is why they are investigating. The DNC was hacked, they are looking and investigating leads. When they investigate they try to gather evidence. So they aren't investigating evidence, they are looking for evidence, and whether it exists or not.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Where did I say it meant guilt?
Can you read?

PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information.

I'm asserting that if that were true, then how can Trump be under investigation for his connection to something that isn't real?

"PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information."

That's a fact...just as you've been revealed as a lying low-life is a fact.


Here, more folks asserting that there is no such evidencde:

"Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.

TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart






-------------------------------------------------------------------

"While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states."
FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is no evidence of the slander that the Russians and the Trump campaign collaborated.....
So saith Clapper, Comey, Rogers...and Michael Morrell.

Morrell....presumed head of the CIA in a Hillary presidency....

"Morrell wrote an op-ed for the New York Times back in August where he both announced his support for Hillary Clinton and argued that Trump was a puppet of Vladimir Putin, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” However, he’s now changed his tune and believes that Mr. Trump is not only innocent of any collaboration with Russia but he further argued that the “Trump dossier” released a few months ago is likely a fraud. "
Intelligence Chiefs say NO Evidence of Trump-Russia Connection

Answer my question, idiot.

How can Trump be under investigation for connections to something that doesn't exist?

Just because someone's name is included in an investigation in no way 'proves' that perso did anything wrong.
GOD you're an asshole!
In ANY investigation at ANY level within the legal system there can be a thousand names listed.
Just because the name of a six month old who is the daughter of someone you witnessed a crime is 'listed' does that mean the baby is 'under investigation????
******* GROW UP!!!!

I never said anyone committed a crime or was guilty of anything, dope.

Try reading and understanding the conversation before jumping in.

You claimed they had "evidence" and that is why they are investigating. The DNC was hacked, they are looking and investigating leads. When they investigate they try to gather evidence. So they aren't investigating evidence, they are looking for evidence, and whether it exists or not.

I don't think I did.
Quote me so I have an idea of what you're referring to.
That's why that function exists.

 

[Papageorgio]

I 100% totally agree that the hackers were either Russian or more likely Romanian who sold gave the hacked emails to Putin. I don't care who released "damaging information" about the *****.
The FACT there was "damaging information" is the point asshole!
Yes by default the "damaging information" exposing one candidate will help the candidate who did not have any "damaging information" to expose.
One and one make two!
The FBI REPEATEDLY warned the DNC that their email server was in danger of being hacked. The 'man-buns' in Hillary's campaign hired to keep the DNCs emails from being hacked REFUSED to allow the FBI experts come in and put up up-to-date firewalls.
Blame the ***** Rooy Mook and Hillary for their **** up. NOT the Russians or Trump.

The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked.

Why on Earth would you accept that type of attack on our system? Will an equivalent attack on a Republican candidate be required before you find fault with the tactic?

"The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."


Sooo......did you eat the fortune cookie after you copied this???



There is zero evidence of what you claim....either that it was a foreign govt., or that it influenced the electorate.

That makes you a liar and a fool.
True?

Facts here:

“There’s no evidence that this was done by the state itself, only evidence it was done by non-state actors that might be Russian-speaking,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of the cyber security consultancy firm Taia Global, referring to the evidence available to the public.

That evidence, which was released by private threat assessment companies rather than official channels, indicates hackers used Cyrillic keyboards and operated during Moscow working hours.
But indicators of identity like timestamps, language preferences and IP addresses “can be manipulated or faked rather easily,” said Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a senior security researcher at Kaspersky Lab."
Does the U.S. government really know who hacked Democrats' emails?


BTW....this is from PBS

You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials.

The FBI is completely wrong about this. You know the truth.

1. "You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials."

Why are you pretending that I said that?

Is it because I smacked your knuckles....again.....by proving that there is no evidence....nor will there ever be.....that "It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."

That's your quote...and I utterly destroyed it.




2. I've noticed that you alternate between bafflement and falsification, leaving an observer with the impression of one on a bungee cord.

Or, in your case, a dope on a rope.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

"PC is asserting that there is no evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of information."

That's a fact...just as you've been revealed as a lying low-life is a fact.


Here, more folks asserting that there is no such evidencde:

"Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.

TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart






-------------------------------------------------------------------

"While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states."
FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is no evidence of the slander that the Russians and the Trump campaign collaborated.....
So saith Clapper, Comey, Rogers...and Michael Morrell.

Morrell....presumed head of the CIA in a Hillary presidency....

"Morrell wrote an op-ed for the New York Times back in August where he both announced his support for Hillary Clinton and argued that Trump was a puppet of Vladimir Putin, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” However, he’s now changed his tune and believes that Mr. Trump is not only innocent of any collaboration with Russia but he further argued that the “Trump dossier” released a few months ago is likely a fraud. "
Intelligence Chiefs say NO Evidence of Trump-Russia Connection

Answer my question, idiot.

How can Trump be under investigation for connections to something that doesn't exist?

Just because someone's name is included in an investigation in no way 'proves' that perso did anything wrong.
GOD you're an asshole!
In ANY investigation at ANY level within the legal system there can be a thousand names listed.
Just because the name of a six month old who is the daughter of someone you witnessed a crime is 'listed' does that mean the baby is 'under investigation????
******* GROW UP!!!!

I never said anyone committed a crime or was guilty of anything, dope.

Try reading and understanding the conversation before jumping in.

You claimed they had "evidence" and that is why they are investigating. The DNC was hacked, they are looking and investigating leads. When they investigate they try to gather evidence. So they aren't investigating evidence, they are looking for evidence, and whether it exists or not.

I don't think I did.
Quote me so I have an idea of what you're referring to.
That's why that function exists.

Here you go, maybe you should read what you post.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

 

[Meane]

They had bought hundreds of "journalists" to put up "magazines", "news papers" and blogs to feed propaganda to the people all over the world. And then they bought people like you to troll in the "free" internet making all sorts of illogical and incomprehensible claims and inane questions that have not even an attempt of seriousness behind them.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked.

Why on Earth would you accept that type of attack on our system? Will an equivalent attack on a Republican candidate be required before you find fault with the tactic?

"The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."


Sooo......did you eat the fortune cookie after you copied this???



There is zero evidence of what you claim....either that it was a foreign govt., or that it influenced the electorate.

That makes you a liar and a fool.
True?

Facts here:

“There’s no evidence that this was done by the state itself, only evidence it was done by non-state actors that might be Russian-speaking,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of the cyber security consultancy firm Taia Global, referring to the evidence available to the public.

That evidence, which was released by private threat assessment companies rather than official channels, indicates hackers used Cyrillic keyboards and operated during Moscow working hours.
But indicators of identity like timestamps, language preferences and IP addresses “can be manipulated or faked rather easily,” said Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a senior security researcher at Kaspersky Lab."
Does the U.S. government really know who hacked Democrats' emails?


BTW....this is from PBS

You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials.

The FBI is completely wrong about this. You know the truth.

1. "You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials."

Why are you pretending that I said that?

Is it because I smacked your knuckles....again.....by proving that there is no evidence....nor will there ever be.....that "It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."

That's your quote...and I utterly destroyed it.




2. I've noticed that you alternate between bafflement and falsification, leaving an observer with the impression of one on a bungee cord.

Or, in your case, a dope on a rope.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

Answer my question, idiot.

How can Trump be under investigation for connections to something that doesn't exist?

Just because someone's name is included in an investigation in no way 'proves' that perso did anything wrong.
GOD you're an asshole!
In ANY investigation at ANY level within the legal system there can be a thousand names listed.
Just because the name of a six month old who is the daughter of someone you witnessed a crime is 'listed' does that mean the baby is 'under investigation????
******* GROW UP!!!!

I never said anyone committed a crime or was guilty of anything, dope.

Try reading and understanding the conversation before jumping in.

You claimed they had "evidence" and that is why they are investigating. The DNC was hacked, they are looking and investigating leads. When they investigate they try to gather evidence. So they aren't investigating evidence, they are looking for evidence, and whether it exists or not.

I don't think I did.
Quote me so I have an idea of what you're referring to.
That's why that function exists.

Here you go, maybe you should read what you post.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

I know what I posted. You should take an adult reader refresher.

Evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release, dope.

If you had read a few prior posts, you would have seen that who I responded to denied that Russia was behind anything.

My question was, if it's not true, then how can Trump be under investigation for his connection to it?

It's pretty self evident. It's certainly not something you needed to chase me around over.

 

[dannyboys]

"The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."


Sooo......did you eat the fortune cookie after you copied this???



There is zero evidence of what you claim....either that it was a foreign govt., or that it influenced the electorate.

That makes you a liar and a fool.
True?

Facts here:

“There’s no evidence that this was done by the state itself, only evidence it was done by non-state actors that might be Russian-speaking,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of the cyber security consultancy firm Taia Global, referring to the evidence available to the public.

That evidence, which was released by private threat assessment companies rather than official channels, indicates hackers used Cyrillic keyboards and operated during Moscow working hours.
But indicators of identity like timestamps, language preferences and IP addresses “can be manipulated or faked rather easily,” said Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a senior security researcher at Kaspersky Lab."
Does the U.S. government really know who hacked Democrats' emails?


BTW....this is from PBS

You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials.

The FBI is completely wrong about this. You know the truth.

1. "You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials."

Why are you pretending that I said that?

Is it because I smacked your knuckles....again.....by proving that there is no evidence....nor will there ever be.....that "It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."

That's your quote...and I utterly destroyed it.




2. I've noticed that you alternate between bafflement and falsification, leaving an observer with the impression of one on a bungee cord.

Or, in your case, a dope on a rope.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

Just because someone's name is included in an investigation in no way 'proves' that perso did anything wrong.
GOD you're an asshole!
In ANY investigation at ANY level within the legal system there can be a thousand names listed.
Just because the name of a six month old who is the daughter of someone you witnessed a crime is 'listed' does that mean the baby is 'under investigation????
******* GROW UP!!!!

I never said anyone committed a crime or was guilty of anything, dope.

Try reading and understanding the conversation before jumping in.

You claimed they had "evidence" and that is why they are investigating. The DNC was hacked, they are looking and investigating leads. When they investigate they try to gather evidence. So they aren't investigating evidence, they are looking for evidence, and whether it exists or not.

I don't think I did.
Quote me so I have an idea of what you're referring to.
That's why that function exists.

Here you go, maybe you should read what you post.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

I know what I posted. You should take an adult reader refresher.

Evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release, dope.

If you had read a few prior posts, you would have seen that who I responded to denied that Russia was behind anything.

My question was, if it's not true, then how can Trump be under investigation for his connection to it?

It's pretty self evident. It's certainly not something you needed to chase me around over.

There's something seriously wrong with you.
Yes 'Russia; was involved with the DNC hacking and subsequent release of damaging information about Hillary and the DNC. ("If only everyone would have keep their mouths shut and that ***** Mook hadn't hired a bunch of 'pretty-boys' in man-buns to operate the computers I would have been the President")
You are DESPERATE for their to be a "connection" to Trump.
If you had a shred of honesty you would have posted: "....then how can Tump be under investigation for his POSSIBLE CONNECTION to it".
You have already made your mind up Trump and his campaign "colluded" with the Russians to win the election.
******* GROW UP!
When the results of the investigations are complete and they prove Trump and his campaign did in no way collude with the Russians I 100% guarantee that you will scream your head off that the investigators were bought off by Trump.
The closer the Congressional investigation gets to releasing the FACTS the more the DEMs are screaming for a SP.
They KNOW they are going to end up looking like fools.........again.
You still believe Big Mike was an innocent victim of a deranged White supremacist cop.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials.

The FBI is completely wrong about this. You know the truth.

1. "You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials."

Why are you pretending that I said that?

Is it because I smacked your knuckles....again.....by proving that there is no evidence....nor will there ever be.....that "It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."

That's your quote...and I utterly destroyed it.




2. I've noticed that you alternate between bafflement and falsification, leaving an observer with the impression of one on a bungee cord.

Or, in your case, a dope on a rope.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

I never said anyone committed a crime or was guilty of anything, dope.

Try reading and understanding the conversation before jumping in.

You claimed they had "evidence" and that is why they are investigating. The DNC was hacked, they are looking and investigating leads. When they investigate they try to gather evidence. So they aren't investigating evidence, they are looking for evidence, and whether it exists or not.

I don't think I did.
Quote me so I have an idea of what you're referring to.
That's why that function exists.

Here you go, maybe you should read what you post.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

I know what I posted. You should take an adult reader refresher.

Evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release, dope.

If you had read a few prior posts, you would have seen that who I responded to denied that Russia was behind anything.

My question was, if it's not true, then how can Trump be under investigation for his connection to it?

It's pretty self evident. It's certainly not something you needed to chase me around over.

There's something seriously wrong with you.
Yes 'Russia; was involved with the DNC hacking and subsequent release of damaging information about Hillary and the DNC. ("If only everyone would have keep their mouths shut and that ***** Mook hadn't hired a bunch of 'pretty-boys' in man-buns to operate the computers I would have been the President")
You are DESPERATE for their to be a "connection" to Trump.
If you had a shred of honesty you would have posted: "....then how can Tump be under investigation for his POSSIBLE CONNECTION to it".
You have already made your mind up Trump and his campaign "colluded" with the Russians to win the election.
******* GROW UP!
When the results of the investigations are complete and they prove Trump and his campaign did in no way collude with the Russians I 100% guarantee that you will scream your head off that the investigators were bought off by Trump.
The closer the Congressional investigation gets to releasing the FACTS the more the DEMs are screaming for a SP.
They KNOW they are going to end up looking like fools.........again.
You still believe Big Mike was an innocent victim of a deranged White supremacist cop.

If you had a shred of honesty you would have posted: "....then how can Tump be under investigation for his POSSIBLE CONNECTION to it".

That's implied with the investigation, dope. There's nothing I said that is questionable.

I've explained my thinking as clearly as is possible. It was a simple question.

You have already made your mind up Trump and his campaign "colluded" with the Russians to win the election.
******* GROW UP!

I have not. I said no such thing. I've even explained my thinking.

Grow up?

That's rich coming from someone who is attacking me over nothing while not even bothering to answer the question I originally posted.

Like I said earlier, it cannot be answered without collapsing the narrative that Russia was not behind the hack.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The only dupes lost in Nov.
Until the DFL quits looking for scapegoats and Russian bogymen and come to the realization that the party strayed too far left and lost independents and tax paying blue collar workers get used to the agony of defeat.
Seems at this point the left is doubling down on stupid. Good luck with all that.

Do you believe that Clinton was hurt by the release of hacked emails?

I believe Hillary was "hurt" by people uncovering her illegal private server and telling the world about what she had done.
I believe her campaign was hurt when someone uncovered the collusion with CNN and corruption within her campaign.
I beleive that had she not been complicit and corrupt and a ******* liar she would have easily beaten Trump.
What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.
Does anyone find it extremely hypocritical of the LIBs to now tell everyone that "it doesn't matter how any possible 'dirt' on Trump is turned up. Leaking classified information and giving it to the WAPO/NYT so they can EXPOSE TRUMP!!!!! is just fine now but having the truth come out about Hillary is wrong!
******* hypocrites!
I can't WAIT for the DEMs to stand on the White House steps in a month and tell the world that in fact there is ZERO evidence that anyone on the Trump campaign had any 'nefarious' involvement with the Russians either before or after the election.
And that in fact there are a number of people working in the intelligence agencies who are going to face federal criminal charges for leaking classified information.

What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.

Someone?
You act as if that is still a mystery. You know who did it but won't admit it. I don't blame you thought as that admission would blow the entire narrative.

I ask that question to see the various tortured responses I get to a rather simple question.

The Russians were behind the hacking. That is established fact.

The release of that material hurt Clinton with voters. Even you admit that just not who released it.

By default then, if the leak hurt Clinton, it had to have helped Trump. The Russians helped Trump. The only question left then is, did the Trump campaign and it's members work in concert with the Russians?

I 100% totally agree that the hackers were either Russian or more likely Romanian who sold gave the hacked emails to Putin. I don't care who released "damaging information" about the *****.
The FACT there was "damaging information" is the point asshole!
Yes by default the "damaging information" exposing one candidate will help the candidate who did not have any "damaging information" to expose.
One and one make two!
The FBI REPEATEDLY warned the DNC that their email server was in danger of being hacked. The 'man-buns' in Hillary's campaign hired to keep the DNCs emails from being hacked REFUSED to allow the FBI experts come in and put up up-to-date firewalls.
Blame the ***** Rooy Mook and Hillary for their **** up. NOT the Russians or Trump.

The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked.

Why on Earth would you accept that type of attack on our system? Will an equivalent attack on a Republican candidate be required before you find fault with the tactic?

1) Hacking IS a crime, and as such, should be investigated. However, the information provided in the hack was still true, and any votes cast on the basis of that information are still valid, which means the election itself is still valid.

2) If you're going to take the position that the left seems to be taking, which is that any election where voters listen to information other than that put out directly by the campaigns themselves is invalidated and should be replaced by the will of the political left, you're going to have a very hard sell. You let us know how that works out for you.

3) If nothing else, the hacks definitely demolished every argument the left had been trying to make about how the lackadaisical attitude of Hillary and her cronies toward computer security was no big deal.

4) You can scream, "And a foreign government did it! We KNOW they did!" until your face turns blue, but the fact remains that the evidence so far still doesn't indicate exactly who was responsible. Hence the investigation.

5) Did you know that "investigation" does NOT mean "simply assuming the left's narrative is correct"?

 

[Cecilie1200]

All of this was known.....you're simply too dishonest to admit it.

True?

Now that you admit that someone releasing damaging information about a candidate can SWAY an election. As they say, now we're just haggling over the price.

Um, no. Because, see, LOTS of things can sway an election. Doesn't in any way validate the leap lefties are trying to make to, "Therefore, the entire election is illegitimate".

The votes are still valid, regardless of what the voters knew or thought they knew about the candidates when they cast them. At this point in time, voters are still allowed to vote however they like, for whatever reason they like, whether you think it's stupid and wrong or not.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I believe Hillary was "hurt" by people uncovering her illegal private server and telling the world about what she had done.
I believe her campaign was hurt when someone uncovered the collusion with CNN and corruption within her campaign.
I beleive that had she not been complicit and corrupt and a ******* liar she would have easily beaten Trump.
What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.
Does anyone find it extremely hypocritical of the LIBs to now tell everyone that "it doesn't matter how any possible 'dirt' on Trump is turned up. Leaking classified information and giving it to the WAPO/NYT so they can EXPOSE TRUMP!!!!! is just fine now but having the truth come out about Hillary is wrong!
******* hypocrites!
I can't WAIT for the DEMs to stand on the White House steps in a month and tell the world that in fact there is ZERO evidence that anyone on the Trump campaign had any 'nefarious' involvement with the Russians either before or after the election.
And that in fact there are a number of people working in the intelligence agencies who are going to face federal criminal charges for leaking classified information.

What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.

Someone?
You act as if that is still a mystery. You know who did it but won't admit it. I don't blame you thought as that admission would blow the entire narrative.

I ask that question to see the various tortured responses I get to a rather simple question.

The Russians were behind the hacking. That is established fact.

The release of that material hurt Clinton with voters. Even you admit that just not who released it.

By default then, if the leak hurt Clinton, it had to have helped Trump. The Russians helped Trump. The only question left then is, did the Trump campaign and it's members work in concert with the Russians?

Everyone did it, you dunce.



Just a few (25) of the scandals, lies, and criminal activity of Hillary Clinton.




1. Travelgate: After their election, the Clintons fired the White House Travel Office...which had served 7 administrations, and turned it over to their pals. As part of this, they brought bogus corruption charges against the civil servants therein.

The individuals were cleared on all counts.

The Independent Council found that Hillary lied when she claimed she wasn't behind the scam. “The overwhelming evidence establishes that she played a role in the decision to fire the employees. … Thus, her statement to the contrary under oath was factually false.”


a. " Hillary described Travelgate with cool indifference as, “perhaps worthy of a two-or-three-week life span, instead, in a partisan political climate, it became the first manifestation of an obsession for investigation that persisted into the millennium.” But for Billy Dale, it wasn’t a partisan manifestation. It was the termination of a thirty-plus-year career, and a fight for his freedom. If convicted, he faced a maximum of twenty years in prison and up to $500,000 in fines.”

Read more: How Hillary Clinton sicced the FBI on the White House travel office

b. For you or I that would mean a perjury charge and criminal record for trying to destroy an innocent American who had served honorably under eight administrations and lying about it. For Hillary it meant a future as the junior New York Senator and then President Barack Obama’s Secretary of State." Ibid.

2. @ 0:58 Hillary's pal Vince Foster was involved in several of the Clinton scandals. When he was found dead: was that why Hillary had Foster's files ransacked before investigators could view them?

WASHINGTON, July 26— A Secret Service officer today flatly contradicted the White House account of the night of Vincent W. Foster Jr.'s death, telling the Senate Whitewater panel that he had seen Hillary Rodham Clinton's top aide remove files from Mr. Foster's office. The aide vehemently denied doing it.

Testifying under oath before the special Senate committee investigating Whitewater, the officer, Henry P. O'Neill, said that on July 20, 1993, several hours after Mr. Foster's body was found in a Virginia park, he saw Mrs. Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret A. Williams, carrying two handfuls of folders from Mr. Foster's office." 2 Conflicting Accounts on Files From White House Aide's Office

3. @ 1:47 To see how a President Hillary would 'rule,' take a look at her methods when Bill put her in charge of the earlier attempt at a take-over of healthcare: " WASHINGTON, Dec. 1— A Federal district judge said today that he intended to impose sanctions on Clinton Administration officials for their "misconduct" in a court case involving the disclosure of documents from Hillary Rodham Clinton's task force on health care..... "The court understands plaintiffs' frustration with the defendants' misconduct during the course of this litigation, and the court intends to impose sanctions." Misconduct Found on Clinton Health Plan

The Kremlin would be proud!

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4. @4:07 Whitewater....15 Clinton pals were convicted of 40 federal crimes.

5. @4:35 Cattlegate...."... computerized records of her trades, which the White House obtained from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, show for the first time how she was able to turn her initial investment into $6,300 overnight. In about 10 months of trading, she made nearly $100,000, relying heavily on advice from her friend James B. Blair, an experienced futures trader.

The new records also raise the possibility that some of her profits -- as much as $40,000 – came from larger trades ordered by someone else and then shifted to her account,...." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpsrv/politics/special/whitewater/stories/wwtr940527.htm

a. "....guided through the risky trades by James Blair, a friend and top lawyer for one of Arkansas' most powerful companies, Tyson Foods Inc." Business | Hillary Clinton Invested $1,000, Netted $100,000 Through Trading | Seattle Times Newspaper

b. "....Tyson was everything shed been taught to despise at Wellesley and Yale, a greedy capitalist who hated labor unions and had no compunction about polluting Mother Earth for financial gain. Yet she allowed Blair, Big Daddys right-hand man, to manage her financial affairs. Second, assuming the speculation in Marshalls Magazine is correct, she was the conduit for a bribe." Democrook: Hillary Clinton

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6. @5:38 Raw naked power: Filegate. The Clintons illegally obtained FBI files on potential political enemies. "... in 1996 when it was discovered that the Clinton White House illegally obtained FBI files on adversaries, and used them to smear them, continues to this day. Strangely, although Mrs. Clinton is the principal defendant, and although there is sworn testimony, obtained during earlier discovery that Mrs. Clinton was the mastermind of this illegal scheme, the Court has never granted Plaintiffs requests to depose her —.... civil lawsuit which seeks to hold her accountable for illegally violating the privacy rights of American citizens she and her husband Bill Clinton viewed as political adversaries during their administration in the 1990s." Hillary Clinton tries to escape from on-going Filegate case

a. "It was also during this Filegate case that it was learned that President Clinton, on the advice of his top political adviser, James Carville, had illegally released Privacy Act protected information from White House files to smear Kathleen Willey, a woman who was a material witness in the impeachment proceedings, as she was also sexually harassed by the “philanderer in chief” while working for him in the White House."
Proof Hillary isn’t fit to be president

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7. @ 6:35 Chinagate. Foreign countries funneled millions into Clinton's campaign. ".... Hillary then masterminded a scheme whereby the Clinton-Gore presidential campaign of 1996 took bribes from communist Chinese banks and their government to bankroll the president’s and the Democratic Party’s re-election efforts ."
Proof Hillary isn’t fit to be president

a. "When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, Chinese missiles were greatly limited in terms of their range and accuracy. But as journalist Richard Poe noted in 2003, “Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art, solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.”.... "'We like your president. We want to see him reelected,' former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung.

"Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way.

"Clinton’s top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.

"Clinton recieved funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others." Bill Clinton - Discover the Networks

b. "Agents for the Chinese government and military funneled millions into President Clinton’s re-election campaign, the Clinton Legal Defense Fund and the DNC.

The DOJ reported “A pattern of events suggests a level of knowledge within the White House–including the President’s and First Lady’s offices–concerning the injection of foreign funds into the reelection effort.” LYBIO.net Is A Movement For Internet Online Accuracy For Speeches, Text, Words, Quotes and Lyrics.

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8. @6:35 ChinaGate Against campaign finance law, China donated to Bill Clinton's campaign so as to influence US policies. Agents for the Chinese government, and the military, funneled millions into Clinton's campaign.

DoJ: ...knowledge within the President's and First Lady's Offices...concerning the injection of foreign funds in the reelection effort.

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9. @7:10 Using the IRS against political enemies....a Democrat tactic. A senior IRS official admitted that Clinton opponents were singled out for audit....including Bill Clinton's female accusers.

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10. @ 7:45 PardonGate He issued pardons to 450 individuals including cocaine traffickers, terrorists and kidnappers. Several pardons directly benefitted Hillary Clinton, with ties to her NYSenate bid. Marc Rich was actually a fugitive on the run at the time...on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List....while his wife donated thousands to Hillary Clinton's Senate Campaign, the Clinton Legal Defense Fund and the DNC.

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11. @12:00 As Senator....introduced three minor bills which became law in seven years. That includes naming a post office.

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12. @12:33 Enthusiastically voted for the Iraq War

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13. @13:10 "....prosecutors revealed Monday that the mastermind of Mayor Vincent C. Gray’s “shadow campaign” also funneled hundreds of thousands of dollars to aid Mrs. Clinton’s bid for the White House.

Jeffrey E. Thompson’s scheme included diverting more than $608,000 in illicit funds to a New York marketing executive, Troy White, who organized “street teams” to raise Mrs. Clinton’s visibility in urban areas during her Democratic primary battle against Barack Obama.

.....from February to May 2008, Thompson used two firms to disburse $608,750 in “excessive and unreported contributions to pay for campaign services in coordination with and in support of a federal political candidate for president of the United States and the federal and the candidate’s authorized committee.” That candidate was Mrs. Clinton." Hillary Clinton campaign received funds from Jeffrey Thompson

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14. @ 13:39 " State Department spokeswoman can't name Hillary Clinton's diplomatic achievements ... and neither can Hillary Clinton!
· Jen Psaki, the State Department's chief spokesperson, seemed blindsided by a question about Clinton's accomplishments

· A CNN panel erupted into laughter when Psaki's gaffe was shown

· Clinton herself couldn't articulate what she was 'most proud of' during her time as America's top diplomat when asked just weeks ago

Read more: State Department spokeswoman can't name Hillary Clinton's diplomatic achievements ... and neither could Hillary Clinton | Daily Mail Online

Not one achievement in her 4years collecting a salary from the taxpayers.
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15. @ 14:33 " The State Department misplaced and lost some $6 billion due to the improper filing of contracts during the past six years, mainly during the tenure of former Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, according to a newly released Inspector General report." State Dept. misplaced $6B under Hillary Clinton: IG report

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16. @ 14:48 " Hillary's State Department Refused to Brand Boko Haram as Terrorists" Hillary's State Department Refused to Brand Boko Haram as Terrorists
Even though FBI, DoJ and CIA had requested it, so they could pursue group.Result was kidnapping of 300 Nigerian school girls.
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17. @ 14:58 A special investigator for the State Department found that with Hillary in charge, the following investigations were blocked or called off:
a) Sexual assaults by state dept security officials in Beirut
b) "Endemic" use of prostitutes by Hillary's security detail
c.) Drug use by state dept contractors in Baghdad
d) Solicitation of child male prostitutes by US ambassador in Belgium
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18. @16:10 Benghazi cover-up
Hillary testified that she had submitted all documents related to the inquiry. 20 months later....41 new documents were found....including changes to Susan Rice's talking points.
More documents are being withheld.
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19. "State Dept. Promises to Release Clinton Emails on Day That Literally Doesn’t Exist" State Dept. Promises to Release Clinton Emails on Day That Literally Doesn’t Exist
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20. This, from the Mexican paper...the NYTimes:

"In April 2012, representatives from Qatar were apparently hoping to get “five minutes” with former President Bill Clinton while in New York to present him with a $1 million check for his foundation as a birthday gift from the previous year.


While it is unclear whether that meeting ever took place, the offer,mentioned in one of thousands of hacked Clinton campaign emailsreleased by WikiLeaks last week, was an example of the complex ethical issues the Clinton Foundation faced in managing relationships with foreign governments when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. It also raised questions about whether the foundation had fully followed procedures it had voluntarily agreed to in order to avoid those very issues."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/us/politics/wikileaks-bill-clinton-foundation.html




All of this was known.....you're simply too dishonest to admit it.

True?

Nice spam but you didn't address anything under discussion except the fact that this was simply another political attack.

None of you will address this. Like I said, it would blow your narrative.

You can deny it but that doesn't stop the ongoing investigation.

What I did, .....again...was reveal how you refused to admit truth and reality.


You must be a reliable Democrat voter, huh?

The truth is that Clinton was the front-runner despite all of that. That makes your argument moot. Anything to distract from the elephant in the room. The leaks ultimately did her in. Trump won narrowly.

Here's some more truth for you, Sparkles: she WAS the front-runner. And then she wasn't. And then she lost. And the election was legal and valid, and Trump is President.

There is literally nothing you are going to be able to say about e-mail hacks that is going to change any of that.

 

[dannyboys]

1. "You're right.
There's no investigation into Russian hacking and the nature of the relationship between Trump's people and Russian officials."

Why are you pretending that I said that?

Is it because I smacked your knuckles....again.....by proving that there is no evidence....nor will there ever be.....that "It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."

That's your quote...and I utterly destroyed it.




2. I've noticed that you alternate between bafflement and falsification, leaving an observer with the impression of one on a bungee cord.

Or, in your case, a dope on a rope.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

You claimed they had "evidence" and that is why they are investigating. The DNC was hacked, they are looking and investigating leads. When they investigate they try to gather evidence. So they aren't investigating evidence, they are looking for evidence, and whether it exists or not.

I don't think I did.
Quote me so I have an idea of what you're referring to.
That's why that function exists.

Here you go, maybe you should read what you post.

If there weren't evidence of it , Trump wouldn't be under investigation for his possible ties to it now would he, dope?

I know what I posted. You should take an adult reader refresher.

Evidence that Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release, dope.

If you had read a few prior posts, you would have seen that who I responded to denied that Russia was behind anything.

My question was, if it's not true, then how can Trump be under investigation for his connection to it?

It's pretty self evident. It's certainly not something you needed to chase me around over.

There's something seriously wrong with you.
Yes 'Russia; was involved with the DNC hacking and subsequent release of damaging information about Hillary and the DNC. ("If only everyone would have keep their mouths shut and that ***** Mook hadn't hired a bunch of 'pretty-boys' in man-buns to operate the computers I would have been the President")
You are DESPERATE for their to be a "connection" to Trump.
If you had a shred of honesty you would have posted: "....then how can Tump be under investigation for his POSSIBLE CONNECTION to it".
You have already made your mind up Trump and his campaign "colluded" with the Russians to win the election.
******* GROW UP!
When the results of the investigations are complete and they prove Trump and his campaign did in no way collude with the Russians I 100% guarantee that you will scream your head off that the investigators were bought off by Trump.
The closer the Congressional investigation gets to releasing the FACTS the more the DEMs are screaming for a SP.
They KNOW they are going to end up looking like fools.........again.
You still believe Big Mike was an innocent victim of a deranged White supremacist cop.

If you had a shred of honesty you would have posted: "....then how can Tump be under investigation for his POSSIBLE CONNECTION to it".

That's implied with the investigation, dope. There's nothing I said that is questionable.

I've explained my thinking as clearly as is possible. It was a simple question.

You have already made your mind up Trump and his campaign "colluded" with the Russians to win the election.
******* GROW UP!

I have not. I said no such thing. I've even explained my thinking.

Grow up?

That's rich coming from someone who is attacking me over nothing while not even bothering to answer the question I originally posted.

Like I said earlier, it cannot be answered without collapsing the narrative that Russia was not behind the hack.

I have answered your "question" AKA acquisition a number of times.
YES the Russians or their surrogates DID hack into the DNC computers!!!!!
Too bad the fuckwitts at the DNC didn't heed the REPEATED warnings by the FBI that the DNC computers were EXTREMELY vulnerable to being hacked.
Too bad the Russians found out what a bunch of low-life scum buckets were in the DNC.
I'm DELIGHTED the Russians exposed the entire corrupt DNC and their Queen Bee for what they were/are.
But as Hillary repeatedly slurs every day: "If everyone would have just kept their ******* mouths shut I'd be President now!!!!!".
Just because someone is 'named' in an investigation does not mean they are in any way 'guilty' of anything.
Large criminal investigations can have thousands of people 'named'.
This is all going to blow up in your face pal.
(Any takers on the 'BIG MIKE' hoodie you've been trying to sell on EBAY yet?)

 

[Cecilie1200]

The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked.

Why on Earth would you accept that type of attack on our system? Will an equivalent attack on a Republican candidate be required before you find fault with the tactic?

Many republicans welcomed Putin's interferance.

Prove it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I believe Hillary was "hurt" by people uncovering her illegal private server and telling the world about what she had done.
I believe her campaign was hurt when someone uncovered the collusion with CNN and corruption within her campaign.
I beleive that had she not been complicit and corrupt and a ******* liar she would have easily beaten Trump.
What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.
Does anyone find it extremely hypocritical of the LIBs to now tell everyone that "it doesn't matter how any possible 'dirt' on Trump is turned up. Leaking classified information and giving it to the WAPO/NYT so they can EXPOSE TRUMP!!!!! is just fine now but having the truth come out about Hillary is wrong!
******* hypocrites!
I can't WAIT for the DEMs to stand on the White House steps in a month and tell the world that in fact there is ZERO evidence that anyone on the Trump campaign had any 'nefarious' involvement with the Russians either before or after the election.
And that in fact there are a number of people working in the intelligence agencies who are going to face federal criminal charges for leaking classified information.

What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.

Someone?
You act as if that is still a mystery. You know who did it but won't admit it. I don't blame you thought as that admission would blow the entire narrative.

I ask that question to see the various tortured responses I get to a rather simple question.

The Russians were behind the hacking. That is established fact.

The release of that material hurt Clinton with voters. Even you admit that just not who released it.

By default then, if the leak hurt Clinton, it had to have helped Trump. The Russians helped Trump. The only question left then is, did the Trump campaign and it's members work in concert with the Russians?

I 100% totally agree that the hackers were either Russian or more likely Romanian who sold gave the hacked emails to Putin. I don't care who released "damaging information" about the *****.
The FACT there was "damaging information" is the point asshole!
Yes by default the "damaging information" exposing one candidate will help the candidate who did not have any "damaging information" to expose.
One and one make two!
The FBI REPEATEDLY warned the DNC that their email server was in danger of being hacked. The 'man-buns' in Hillary's campaign hired to keep the DNCs emails from being hacked REFUSED to allow the FBI experts come in and put up up-to-date firewalls.
Blame the ***** Rooy Mook and Hillary for their **** up. NOT the Russians or Trump.

The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked.

Why on Earth would you accept that type of attack on our system? Will an equivalent attack on a Republican candidate be required before you find fault with the tactic?

"The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."


Sooo......did you eat the fortune cookie after you copied this???



There is zero evidence of what you claim....either that it was a foreign govt., or that it influenced the electorate.

That makes you a liar and a fool.
True?

Facts here:

“There’s no evidence that this was done by the state itself, only evidence it was done by non-state actors that might be Russian-speaking,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of the cyber security consultancy firm Taia Global, referring to the evidence available to the public.

That evidence, which was released by private threat assessment companies rather than official channels, indicates hackers used Cyrillic keyboards and operated during Moscow working hours.
But indicators of identity like timestamps, language preferences and IP addresses “can be manipulated or faked rather easily,” said Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a senior security researcher at Kaspersky Lab."
Does the U.S. government really know who hacked Democrats' emails?


BTW....this is from PBS

I believe Hillary was "hurt" by people uncovering her illegal private server and telling the world about what she had done.
I believe her campaign was hurt when someone uncovered the collusion with CNN and corruption within her campaign.
I beleive that had she not been complicit and corrupt and a ******* liar she would have easily beaten Trump.
What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.
Does anyone find it extremely hypocritical of the LIBs to now tell everyone that "it doesn't matter how any possible 'dirt' on Trump is turned up. Leaking classified information and giving it to the WAPO/NYT so they can EXPOSE TRUMP!!!!! is just fine now but having the truth come out about Hillary is wrong!
******* hypocrites!
I can't WAIT for the DEMs to stand on the White House steps in a month and tell the world that in fact there is ZERO evidence that anyone on the Trump campaign had any 'nefarious' involvement with the Russians either before or after the election.
And that in fact there are a number of people working in the intelligence agencies who are going to face federal criminal charges for leaking classified information.

What the LIBs are whining about is someone, doesn't really matter who, uncovered what Hillary was/is.
What the LIBs are really pissed off about is not what Hillary had done so much as someone uncovered the truth and told everyone.

Someone?
You act as if that is still a mystery. You know who did it but won't admit it. I don't blame you thought as that admission would blow the entire narrative.

I ask that question to see the various tortured responses I get to a rather simple question.

The Russians were behind the hacking. That is established fact.

The release of that material hurt Clinton with voters. Even you admit that just not who released it.

By default then, if the leak hurt Clinton, it had to have helped Trump. The Russians helped Trump. The only question left then is, did the Trump campaign and it's members work in concert with the Russians?

I 100% totally agree that the hackers were either Russian or more likely Romanian who sold gave the hacked emails to Putin. I don't care who released "damaging information" about the *****.
The FACT there was "damaging information" is the point asshole!
Yes by default the "damaging information" exposing one candidate will help the candidate who did not have any "damaging information" to expose.
One and one make two!
The FBI REPEATEDLY warned the DNC that their email server was in danger of being hacked. The 'man-buns' in Hillary's campaign hired to keep the DNCs emails from being hacked REFUSED to allow the FBI experts come in and put up up-to-date firewalls.
Blame the ***** Rooy Mook and Hillary for their **** up. NOT the Russians or Trump.

The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked.

Why on Earth would you accept that type of attack on our system? Will an equivalent attack on a Republican candidate be required before you find fault with the tactic?

"The hacking was a crime.
It was perpetrated by a foreign govt with the intention of influencing our electoral process. It worked."


Sooo......did you eat the fortune cookie after you copied this???



There is zero evidence of what you claim....either that it was a foreign govt., or that it influenced the electorate.

That makes you a liar and a fool.
True?

Facts here:

“There’s no evidence that this was done by the state itself, only evidence it was done by non-state actors that might be Russian-speaking,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of the cyber security consultancy firm Taia Global, referring to the evidence available to the public.

That evidence, which was released by private threat assessment companies rather than official channels, indicates hackers used Cyrillic keyboards and operated during Moscow working hours.
But indicators of identity like timestamps, language preferences and IP addresses “can be manipulated or faked rather easily,” said Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a senior security researcher at Kaspersky Lab."
Does the U.S. government really know who hacked Democrats' emails?


BTW....this is from PBS

There is zero evidence of what you claim....either that it was a foreign govt., or that it influenced the electorate.

Again, like I said, you have to deny that or your narrative crumbles.

It is accepted as fact. It is the entire basis for the current investigation into the Trump campaign and it's members.

You can deny it all you like but it won't stop the investigation.

Ah, yes. The leftist "we just shout it and hope it will become 'accepted'" method. Never mind finding out the truth. Let's just tell people what we WANT the truth to be, and hope it'll become the narrative.