What are young Israelis taught about Jesus?

[rosends]

That he was a Jew who may or may not have blasmemed G_d & the Messiah but the people who founded Christianity most certainly did (AND DO) blaspheme G_d and the Messiah on a daily basis. They do that in Jesus' name but it doesn't prove that he said anything to indicate that he, himself, said anything about it.

Nothing Jesus did is "blasphemy" under jewish law.

 

[EMH]

Why are you so interested

Why does truth bother you so much?


Why can't you admit the OP is 100% truth?

 

[EMH]

That he was a Jew who may or may not have blasmemed G_d & the Messiah but the people who founded Christianity most certainly did (AND DO) blaspheme G_d and the Messiah on a daily basis. They do that in Jesus' name but it doesn't prove that he said anything to indicate that he, himself, said anything about it.

or maybe the "Gawd" is complete BS. Maybe Moses the Midianite went up Mt Sinai, got offed, and was replaced by a Levite Priest who "looked different," and the Midianites noticed, which is why they were offed for a BS reason, later all of Midian was offed for the same reason, save the young hotties destined for Epstein Island....



Judaism:

both the SS and the KGB concluded Judaism isn't a religion, it is a conspiracy against everyone else

a celebration of murder, fraud, and multiple counts of unprovoked genocides



Does anyone think

Bibi
Epstein
Col Tim Osman
John Brennan

"fear Gawd?"

 

[EMH]

Nothing Jesus did is "blasphemy" under jewish law.

but you admitted he "caused exile and death to Jews."

 

[EMH]

I agree, it’s better to call Muslims like Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Queda and Iran’s Mullahs etc. subhuman savages, and you support them.

When are you going to fly a motorized paraglider for us?


107 never happened, another hate hoax.

Al Qaeda was either an orphanage or it never existed, and the W Administration, Israel, and Saudi were behind 911.


The "sub human savages" are the Zionist Fascists.

 

[rosends]

but you admitted he "caused exile and death to Jews."

If you say I "admitted" that, then ok, I said that. I don't recall saying that but I don't think you would lie. How does that become relevant to the point I made?

 

[USAF 2023]

If you say I "admitted" that, then ok, I said that. I don't recall saying that but I don't think you would lie. How does that become relevant to the point I made?

He’s psychotic. Ask him to produce the post. He won’t be able to

 

[GLASNOST]

You were never heterosexual.

You wouldn't know one way or the other. You transvestites think life is determined by what colour dress you wear ..... and if someone doesn't wear any dress at all your plumbing begins to leak profusely.

 

[GLASNOST]

or maybe the "Gawd" is complete BS.

Almost sure..

Maybe Moses the Midianite went up Mt Sinai, got offed, and was replaced by a Levite Priest who "looked different," and the Midianites noticed, which is why they were offed for a BS reason, later all of Midian was offed for the same reason,

Definitely posssible.

save the young hotties destined for Epstein Island....

That goes without saying.

Judaism:

both the SS and the KGB concluded Judaism isn't a religion, it is a conspiracy against everyone else

The more one thinks about it the more it seems plausible .... at least in this modern day. So, yes, maybe the SS and the KGB were right. At least partly right it seems.

a celebration of murder, fraud, and multiple counts of unprovoked genocides

The facts of it are clear enough to see.

Does anyone think

Bibi
Epstein
Col Tim Osman
John Brennan

"fear Gawd?"

No definitely not.

 

[Roudy]

Why does truth bother you so much?


Why can't you admit the OP is 100% truth?

I’m not bothered, just pointing out your hypocrisy and fake outrage.

 

[Roudy]

When are you going to fly a motorized paraglider for us?


107 never happened, another hate hoax.

Al Qaeda was either an orphanage or it never existed, and the W Administration, Israel, and Saudi were behind 911.


The "sub human savages" are the Zionist Fascists.

Typical pro Pali, insists on making himself look like a lunatic in public. Please continue, it’s very entertaining.

 

[Churchill]

Then why do you Muslims kill Christians.

Why did you Germans slaughter Jews?

 

[Churchill]

I agree, it’s better to call Muslims like Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Queda and Iran’s Mullahs etc. subhuman savages, and you support them.

Your posts are frequently littered with irrationality and emotions, this is why I suspect you're about fourteen years old. You probably have some of these in your bedroom too.

 

[Churchill]

Nothing Jesus did is "blasphemy" under jewish law.

With all due respect, I think you should have more accurately written:

Nothing Jesus did is "blasphemy" under my interpretation of jewish law.

 

[rosends]

With all due respect, I think you should have more accurately written:

except that it isn't my interpretation. It is Jewish law. Unless you can show me a source in Jewish law that defines blasphemy as inclusive of Jesus' actions, then my statement stands (speaking as someone who has actually studied Jewish law).

Or maybe, show me the writings of another Orthodox rabbi who gives sources showing how what Jesus said/did IS included in the concept of blasphemy under Jewish law.

 

[rosends]

With all due respect, I think you should have more accurately written:

here is some info

125. Blasphemy - HaShoneh Halachos 2: Mishneh Torah - OU Torah

Avodas Kochavim 2:7 A blasphemer is not liable to execution until he uses God’s unique name, which we pronounce “Adonai,” and curses that name using one of God

outorah.org

note -- this is not my opinion. This is Jewish law.

 

[Churchill]

except that it isn't my interpretation. It is Jewish law. Unless you can show me a source in Jewish law that defines blasphemy as inclusive of Jesus' actions, then my statement stands (speaking as someone who has actually studied Jewish law).

The text records that his Jewish accusers reffered to him commiting βλασφημία (that same word as I'm sure you know, does also appear in the Septuagint).

Those accusers then announce that this warrants death, that is, their interpretation was that he had acted in such a way that death was the penalty.

It is immaterial whether the law actually defines the term and associates a death penalty with it, the important thing is that the events took place, he was accused (rightly or wrongly) and they did call for execution.

Or maybe, show me the writings of another Orthodox rabbi who gives sources showing how what Jesus said/did IS included in the concept of blasphemy under Jewish law.

All your position amounts to is that you disagree with those authorities, they regarded Jesus' words/actions as warranting the death penalty whereas you do not.

Do you seek to argue that therefore the events recorded did not take place because the Jewish accusers are incapable of actually acting as described in the New Testament?

Jesus was accused of more than just blasphemy too, the text nowhere states that Jesus must die because he blasphemed, he was accused of violating the Sabbath day for example, that is the first point in the timeline where his execution is called for.

 

[EMH]

He’s psychotic. Ask him to produce the post. He won’t be able to

She's honest, you aren't.

 

[EMH]

Typical pro Pali, insists on making himself look like a lunatic in public. Please continue, it’s very entertaining.

The simple truth is that 107 was another Zionist Fascist hate hoax and you and every other Zionist Fascist Traitor chickens out from doing what 107 claims happened, because like 911

YOU CANNOT "REPEAT THE EXPERIMENT"

which proves it did not happen

 

[rosends]

The text records that his Jewish accusers reffered to him commiting βλασφημία (that same word as I'm sure you know, does also appear in the Septuagint).

Those accusers then announce that this warrants death, that is, their interpretation was that he had acted in such a way that death was the penalty.

It is immaterial whether the law actually defines the term and associates a death penalty with it, the important thing is that the events took place, he was accused (rightly or wrongly) and they did call for execution.

I think you are looking at it backwards. If the text makes a claim which is not in line with extant Jewish law, maybe the text is flat out wrong. I'm not starting with any belief that the events as described took place so I don't need to find a way to explain the problems. The law exists. It existed before Jesus' time.

All your position amounts to is that you disagree with those authorities, they regarded Jesus' words/actions as warranting the death penalty whereas you do not.

what authorities? You have yet to cite a Jewish authority who says that blasphemy includes the words and actions described in the gospels.

Do you seek to argue that therefore the events recorded did not take place because the Jewish accusers are incapable of actually acting as described in the New Testament?

That is certainly a possibility, yes. Are you suggesting that even though Jewish law existed, people at the time somehow all ignored it when making religious judicial statements?

Jesus was accused of more than just blasphemy too, the text nowhere states that Jesus must die because he blasphemed, he was accused of violating the Sabbath day for example.

But the way that is explained, it also wouldn't make him liable to a death penalty under Jewish law. This is just more evidence that the writers were unfamiliar with Jewish jurisprudence.

I don't know what the Greek word actually refers to or means. I'm saying, unequivocally, that the English word/concept "blasphemy" is not synonymous with the Jewish legal concept of blasphemy, so calling it blasphemy is misleading when considering Jewish law. Call it something else that violates Jewish law if you or anyone wants to label his actions as counter the Jewish authorities. It just isn't blasphemy.