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What are the effects of the Roe Overturn today?

eagle1462010

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And so are privacy rights, they are inalienable....or fundamental to our democracy, a democratic republic.
And yet your party made sure that our medical records were online for all doctors............and cough cough the Feds to see when they please.

Hmm...........It was said FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT TO SAVE US. No it wasn't. Our medical records shouldn't be on the dang net unless we agree to it.
 

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In that case I'm sure some social service will be dreamed up by charities through donations and support to take ladies on a bus once a month, etc., and pilot them to and from another state to do the dirty deed, don't you think? Can you imagine that NOT happening?


Do you have a list of these states? And how would they do that without a pact with the adjoining, pro-abortion state to deny them an abortion which I doubt they would agree to being that they are pro-abortion?

Frankly, I've never known a single woman in my entire life to get knocked up and want and have an abortion. Apparently abortions seem to have their strongest hold on low income people and minorities, probably the last group of people who need to be having more kids, so, if they live in a "red" state, I think moderation would be a better approach than an outright BAN, as people will just find or create a social service as above to bus them to where they CAN have an abortion rendering the state's decision moot, or HHS will be feeding a lot more kids.
LMAO. Oh it is better than what you say. Medicaid will cover travel expenses. Many businesses, Bank of America for one, has already said they will pay travel expenses. The US military, to head off an anticipated recruitment problem, has already stated they will pay for transportation if a beneficiary is located in an abortion illegal state. I mean this ruling has created a whole new industry, the abortion travel industry.
 

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My position on that (and I’ve said it) is that the government cannot force ALL citizens to be vaccinated, but there are exceptions: military, healthcare workers, children in public schools.
You contradict yourself in the same sentence. It's either for all or not at all. Who are you to force an EXPERIMENTAL VACCINE on them or lose your job or be thrown out of the service after fighting 2 wars for over a decade?

Who are you to deny that Natural immunity is not enough to not be required to get the jab? It is proven now all over the planet that Natural immunity is night and day better than the jab. Not to mention many cases in the military documented that pilots were being grounded for adverse effects by medical professionals. Then these DOCTORS were REASSIGNED.

Well.
 

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I see 4 basic areas in which the SCOTUS overturn of Roe v Wade will affect the country:
Political: Democrats hope that they can stir up excitement for the 2022 mid-term elections. Before today, there was no enthusiasm in the Democrat Party as Biden has pulled the party down big time. The question is, will this abortion issue get the attention Democrats hope for to win in November? Or, will the Democrats violence and insurrection acts they are calling for cause more people to vote for the Republican candidates? How do Republicans feel about this turn with abortion? Do they think this is bad timing because of the elections and might hurt them?

The Judicial Branch: Roe v Wade created a greater affect on judicial activism. It opened a can of worms in which we see liberal judges legislating from the benches. We have seen the Constitution eroded since 1973 as well. Does the overturn of Roe help with stopping judicial activism? Those doing this know that their cases will end up in the Supreme Court because of this ruling today. Roe v Wade was pure judicial activism as there is nothing in the Constitution about abortion or a woman's right to privacy. And, the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments have nothing to do with privacy. And, Roe wasn't even a case about a woman's right to choose. It was to protect the doctors who were performing abortions.

Religious: Obviously, the religious people are mostly happy except in churches with little moral doctrines to follow. But, the atheist secular radicals will orchestrate violence against religious people and churches as well. They already are. The LDS Church has closed their temples today because of threats by crazy abortion supporters. They will attempt to harm churches as that is Satan's method in these latter days.

Women's Reactions: I've seen and heard now several on the opposite side throw temper tantrums claiming the right are now killing women instead of unborn babies. They believe other rights will be taken away like gay marriage, contraception and other areas of this issue. Even though Alito has already said no in the decision.
It's about triggering the woke to know when it's appropriate to protest something. Guns are next.
 

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That conservatives oppose Roe comes as no surprise, of course – that’s what the authoritarian right is about: more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty; to compel conformity and punish dissent using the power of the state.
Murdering a human being isn't "individual liberty".
 

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That conservatives oppose Roe comes as no surprise, of course – that’s what the authoritarian right is about: more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty; to compel conformity and punish dissent using the power of the state.
We oppose it for the individual liberty of the unborn child. Who can't speak for him or herself.
 

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The 14th Amendment was passed to give ex slaves and their children full citizenship rights. Period.
Tell that to all those whites who have used the 14th amendment to make claims against affirmative action using the equal protection part of that amendment
 

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We oppose it for the individual liberty of the unborn child. Who can't speak for him or herself.
Then you eliminate that right once they are born until they turn 18. Minors can't make contractual agreements and their parents are held responsible for them. So let's make it legal for newborns to vote.
 

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That statement begs the question, are you lying or just stupid? My money is on the latter. Joe can try reading a teleprompter and Kamala can do a sword swallowing act!
Incredible, the forum's Republicans are totally silent on the issues.

This confirms the point of view that the Republican Party has captured the minds of those who live in the rural counties of America. Those voters are mostly farmers and rural shopkeepers. They lack education and they are not well-informed. Most of what they know about politics is by word of mouth.

Grassroots Republicans have no idea what is going on. They avoid respected news sources and are not fans of reality.

The proof is their complete silence on the issues, although they are well-versed in personal attacks.
 

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Incredible, the forum's Republicans are totally silent on the issues.

This confirms the point of view that the Republican Party has captured the minds of those who live in the rural counties of America. Those voters are mostly farmers and rural shopkeepers. They lack education and they are not well-informed. Most of what they know about politics is by word of mouth.

Grassroots Republicans have no idea what is going on. They avoid respected news sources and are not fans of reality.

The proof is their complete silence on the issues, although they are well-versed in personal attacks.
Bullshit. Rural people are just as educated or better educated than city people.
 

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Bullshit. Rural people are just as educated or better educated than city people.
If that is true, why don't they respond to the issues intelligently and knock the personal insults?

I speak from experience. I am actively involved in this thread:

A report card on the Biden administration


Pay particular attention to the last several pages of this thread which are highly critical of the Republican Party and Trump specifically. Note the complete silence on the issues. On rare occasions, a Trump Republican will respond to contribute a personal attack or change the subject.

They are incapable of supporting their party and even themselves.
 

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This is the first time in its history that the Supreme Court has removed a fundamental right, the right of a woman to make her own decisions regarding her health and well-being.
The Court is imposing its religious view on the American people.
The Court determined that the government is in control of a woman's health when it involves a pregnancy. The woman and her doctor do not decide her fate. The state does.
CNN reports, "Abortion-rights protesters continued to voice their fury and anguish nationwide Saturday following the seismic ruling by the US Supreme Court to eliminate the federal constitutional right to an abortion.

"On Friday, the Court overturned the 1973 ruling known as Roe v. Wade, sparking protests that are expected to extend throughout the weekend.

"Smaller gatherings of people celebrating the ruling are also taking place.

"As states started enacting abortion bans and some clinics stopped offering the procedure, abortion-rights advocates took to the streets in major cities.

"More demonstrations are expected today and Sunday in cities big and small, including in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Illinois, Texas, New Mexico, California, and many others."

Coming on the heels of the Court's decision to expand gun rights in New York after the shooting massacres in Buffalo and New York, the extreme unpopularity of the Supreme Court's religious decision regarding a woman's right to determine her health and well-being destiny has created chaos across our country, and there is no end in sight.

All that makes Justice Samuel Alito's remarks extraordinarily ironic. He said, "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak [from a religious point of view], and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have inflamed debate and deepened division.

Incredible! Obviously, Alito is not very cognizant of the world around him. He has lived in the crystal palace far too long.

It was the Supreme Court's decision that fostered "damaging consequences" and "inflamed debate and deepened division!"

At the same time, a former Republican President and the current leader of the Republican Party is being investigated by a Congressional hearing for the alleged crime of leading a coup attempt to overthrow the elected government.

Fostering damaging consequences, inflaming debate, and deepening division are what far-right conservatives do. The proof is in their actions.

These same far-right conservatives expect to win control of Congress in November. As can be seen, if that happens, our country will be in serious trouble.
 

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CNN reports, "Abortion-rights protesters continued to voice their fury and anguish nationwide Saturday following the seismic ruling by the US Supreme Court to eliminate the federal constitutional right to an abortion.

"On Friday, the Court overturned the 1973 ruling known as Roe v. Wade, sparking protests that are expected to extend throughout the weekend.

"Smaller gatherings of people celebrating the ruling are also taking place.

"As states started enacting abortion bans and some clinics stopped offering the procedure, abortion-rights advocates took to the streets in major cities.

"More demonstrations are expected today and Sunday in cities big and small, including in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Illinois, Texas, New Mexico, California, and many others."

Coming on the heels of the Court's decision to expand gun rights in New York after the shooting massacres in Buffalo and New York, the extreme unpopularity of the Supreme Court's religious decision regarding a woman's right to determine her health and well-being destiny has created chaos across our country, and there is no end in sight.

All that makes Justice Samuel Alito's remarks extraordinarily ironic. He said, "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak [from a religious point of view], and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have inflamed debate and deepened division.

Incredible! Obviously, Alito is not very cognizant of the world around him. He has lived in the crystal palace far too long.

It was the Supreme Court's decision that fostered "damaging consequences" and "inflamed debate and deepened division!"

At the same time, a former Republican President and the current leader of the Republican Party is being investigated by a Congressional hearing for the alleged crime of leading a coup attempt to overthrow the elected government.

Fostering damaging consequences, inflaming debate, and deepening division are what far-right conservatives do. The proof is in their actions.

These same far-right conservatives expect to win control of Congress in November. As can be seen, if that happens, our country will be in serious trouble.

The Blue states will allow abortion while red states allow some abortions to zero abortions.
 

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I think you mean do I oppose government requiring them, not do I oppose the vaccinations. Absolutely.

Democrats think it's only a woman's body when women want an abortion or women want to swear on television. Your party has a strong history of a woman's body being subservient to ... you know ... you ....
BS.
 

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The Blue states will allow abortion while red states allow some abortions to zero abortions.
No, if the republicans get control, they'll pass a law banning abortions.
 

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