We’ve Known for Months 3 Factors Are Massively Inflating COVID’s Fatality Count.

[JackOfNoTrades]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

In terms of cases, no fucking shit JackassOfNoTrades. Only a fraction of cases are counted.

In terms of deaths, note the article points out the study made up the statistic. They had no real data. They just created a "model." A model with no data is just made up to project whatever you want it to.

The fact is in most of the country they have very little standard for counting Biden virus deaths and they massively assume Biden virus and overcount.

Man who died in motorcycle crash counted as COVID-19 death in Florida: Report

A man who died in a motorcycle crash was counted as a COVID-19 death in Florida, according to a new report fromFOX 35 Orlando. According to the report, Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino was asked whether two coronavirus victims in their 20s had any underlying medical conditions that...

cbs12.com

How long you wingers gonna stick your fingers in your ears? And no one mentioned Biden..or Trump. Because of lag time and other issues, deaths are not counted all at the same time.

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.

www.cdc.gov

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

Nope. Sorry. No propaganda here. Only facts.
Here's one from May

Fauci Says U.S. Death Toll Is Likely Higher. Other COVID-19 Stats Need Adjusting, Too

Researchers say the statistics issued about coronavirus cases and deaths do not necessarily reflect the full degree of the pandemic's impact.

www.npr.org

Here's one straight from the horse's mouth.

COVID-19 cases are 12 times higher than reported | MIT Sloan

New research reveals the true scope of COVID-19’s global spread. But don’t bank on herd immunity.

mitsloan.mit.edu

You expect us to believe Fauci or a couple of leftwing MIT professors?

Not a chance.

The smartest guys in the country at this point? As opposed to the reality TV star President and his "crack" team?
Well..yes. All the shouting and pouting won't change that.

 

[bripat9643]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

BTW, moron, we're talking about deaths, not cases.

 

[colfax_m]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

I’m not saying anything is 100% accurate, clerical mistakes happen, but you guys are trying really desperately to downplay this and it flies in the face of experience of physicians out in the community.

 

[kaz]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

 

[bripat9643]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

Nope. Sorry. No propaganda here. Only facts.
Here's one from May

Fauci Says U.S. Death Toll Is Likely Higher. Other COVID-19 Stats Need Adjusting, Too

Researchers say the statistics issued about coronavirus cases and deaths do not necessarily reflect the full degree of the pandemic's impact.

www.npr.org

Here's one straight from the horse's mouth.

COVID-19 cases are 12 times higher than reported | MIT Sloan

New research reveals the true scope of COVID-19’s global spread. But don’t bank on herd immunity.

mitsloan.mit.edu

You expect us to believe Fauci or a couple of leftwing MIT professors?

Not a chance.

The smartest guys in the country at this point? As opposed to the reality TV star President and his "crack" team?
Well..yes. All the shouting and pouting won't change that.

Fauci is the smartest guy in the country?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump cult propaganda. The actual studies done by people who actually know things indicate the deaths are undercounted.

Prove it, asshole.

You can find them. Look up Weinberger. And Woolf.

You look them up and then post their data. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Nope. Doing that for a cultist freak like you is an even bigger waste of time than pointing you to them.

 

[kaz]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

BTW, moron, we're talking about deaths, not cases.

Yep. Particularly did you read the article? The death projections were only based on a model, not actual data. It's incredible anyone who thinks they are in the news business would publish that headline when they only have a "model" to back it up. When you create a model only, you can project whatever the hell you want with it

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You expect us to believe Fauci or a couple of leftwing MIT professors?

Of course not. You will instead believe demon semen chuggers, because you are morons.

 

[bripat9643]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

I’m not saying anything is 100% accurate, clerical mistakes happen, but you guys are trying really desperately to downplay this and it flies in the face of experience of physicians out in the community.

We aren't talking about clerical errors here. We're talking about systematic lying. These figures are nothing more than propaganda.

 

[kaz]

Trump cult propaganda. The actual studies done by people who actually know things indicate the deaths are undercounted.

Prove it, asshole.

You can find them. Look up Weinberger. And Woolf.

You look them up and then post their data. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Nope. Doing that for a cultist freak like you is an even bigger waste of time than pointing you to them.

Exactly, you made it up

 

[eagle1462010]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

That study is optimistic.............Far higher than that as most get it and don't even know it.

But knowing that number would put the rate too low for your BS narratives to fuck this country over for the coming election.

 

[bripat9643]

You expect us to believe Fauci or a couple of leftwing MIT professors?

Of course not. You will instead believe demon semen chuggers, because you are morons.

Allow me to restate your post so everyone can see what a lying dumbass you are:

"The smartest guys in the country at this point? As opposed to the reality TV star President and his "crack" team?​

Well..yes. All the shouting and pouting won't change that."​

 

[eagle1462010]

Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org

Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...

www.factcheck.org

The CARES Act created the 20% add-on to be paid for Medicare patients with COVID-19. The act further created a $100 billion fund that is being used to financially assist hospitals — a “portion” of which will be “used to reimburse healthcare providers, at Medicare rates, for COVID-related treatment of the uninsured,” according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.


The CDC guidance says that officials should report deaths in which the patient tested positive for COVID-19 — or, if a test isn’t available, “if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty.” It further indicates that if a “definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed.'”

“If we think it’s presumptive … we can go ahead and put down COVID-19,” Jensen said, “or even in some situations, even if it’s negative.” He pointed to the example of a 38-year-old man in Minnesota whose death was attributed to the coronavirus even though he tested negative.

 

[kaz]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

In terms of cases, no fucking shit JackassOfNoTrades. Only a fraction of cases are counted.

In terms of deaths, note the article points out the study made up the statistic. They had no real data. They just created a "model." A model with no data is just made up to project whatever you want it to.

The fact is in most of the country they have very little standard for counting Biden virus deaths and they massively assume Biden virus and overcount.

Man who died in motorcycle crash counted as COVID-19 death in Florida: Report

A man who died in a motorcycle crash was counted as a COVID-19 death in Florida, according to a new report fromFOX 35 Orlando. According to the report, Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino was asked whether two coronavirus victims in their 20s had any underlying medical conditions that...

cbs12.com

How long you wingers gonna stick your fingers in your ears? And no one mentioned Biden..or Trump. Because of lag time and other issues, deaths are not counted all at the same time.

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.

www.cdc.gov

What you do to get to your fake overcounting of Biden virus deaths is that you assume they only count deaths that are proven to be caused by the Biden virus. But that's not correct. They way too often count anyone with any Biden virus symptoms. You realize they don't actually test people, they are guessing, right?

 

[eagle1462010]

Another covid death by definition. It was PRESUMED HE HAD COVID.

 

[colfax_m]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

 

[meaner gene]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There are both undercounts, and overcounts. On average the figures are as accurate as death figures from any other cause. If you want to argue a 5% error, that still won't keep Trumps death figures under that of any other country.

 

[eagle1462010]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

Maybe ......maybe not............Cancer kills quickly at times...........My Sister N law went very quick from it.......

either way.......by definition ........they have purposely JACKED UP THE NUMBERS.....so people like you use the stats for FEAR MONGERING

 

[Nosmo King]

The stupidity of Trumpians isn't 'naked in'! It's kiln fired!

Just to protect the huckster buffoon and his failing election prospects, true idiots will deny a pandemic and eschew science.

Why should anyone pay any attention to them?