Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

[hobelim]

These commentators translate from the Greek. The Word was God.

Then they are just lying frauds trying to justify your idolatrous worship of a human and reprehensible belief that Jesus, an innocent Jewish man, was killed so you won't have to pay the penalty for your own disgusting sins.

Ho Theos means THE GOD. Theos without the definite article Ho before it just means "godlike" or "like God".

I'm sure that your mangod is impressed by your deep and abiding love expressed by throwing him under the bus.

I am.

 

[Quantrill]

Then they are just lying frauds trying to justify your idolatrous worship of a human and reprehensible belief that Jesus, an innocent Jewish man, was killed so you won't have to pay the penalty for your own disgusting sins.

Ho Theos means THE GOD. Theos without the definite article Ho before it just means "godlike" or "like God".

I'm sure that your mangod is impressed by your deep and abiding love expressed by throwing him under the bus.

I am.

No, these men knew the Greek.

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[hobelim]

"The structure of the third clause in verse 1, 'theos en ho logos', demands the translation 'The Word was God'. ' (The Gospel & Epistles Of John, F.F. Bruce, William Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2004, p. 31).

Well, your God is not represented in the Bible. Mine is.

"The main name for God in the New Testament is Ho Theos, from the Greek noun for “god.” This name occurs more than 1,000 times in the New Testament. Theos can mean “god” or “goddess,” so it was also used as a general name for false deities. To avoid confusing God with the many Greek gods, the Jewish writers of the New Testament called him Ho Theos, “the God,” stressing that he alone is the only true God."

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Nya na nana naa.

 

[hobelim]

Oh please please spare me from this phony god. I'm so scared.

You perjure yourself in the name of my God and desecrate the WORDS, teachings, "the flesh of Jesus", a so called "believer" who advocates idolatry, sorcery, fornication, and murder, and only loves and practices deceit.

The consequence for your many obscene vile and degrading sins is death, a curse. But you already knew that.

You understand neither scripture nor the power of my God. YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY. "The Death", a curse. You are already in hell, obliviously prancing around on the road that leads to destruction.

Enjoy!

 

[BreezeWood]

Odd...you didn't answer my questions. Just as I suspected that would be. Why are atheist's such cowards?

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- odd when there is no mention of jesus in your bible even their crucifixion, enacted by the instructions of your religion.

you have lied you are a christian - understandable yet judaism is no substitute for the truth.

 

[Quantrill]

"The main name for God in the New Testament is Ho Theos, from the Greek noun for “god.” This name occurs more than 1,000 times in the New Testament. Theos can mean “god” or “goddess,” so it was also used as a general name for false deities. To avoid confusing God with the many Greek gods, the Jewish writers of the New Testament called him Ho Theos, “the God,” stressing that he alone is the only true God."

Ho Theos: "God" — Today Daily Devotional

Today is a daily devotional that helps God's people refresh, refocus and renew their faith through Bible reading, reflection, and prayer.

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Nya na nana naa.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word." (The Englishman's Greek New Testament, Zondervan Publishing House, 1974, p. 240)

The Greek is clear. God was the Word. The Word was God. The Word became flesh, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is God.

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[Quantrill]

you have lied you are a christian - understandable yet judaism is no substitute for the truth.

Jesus is throughout the Bible.

Go back and answer my questions.

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[hobelim]

and God was the Word

And the word was theos, like God, who is called Ho Theos, The God, the only living God in existence. My God.

 

[hobelim]

God was the Word.

No. The Word, (LOGOS) Divine reasoning, was with my God and the Word was like my God, and just like your words reflect who you are, an actor and lying fraud, Jesus reflected my God by revealing the hidden wisdom and purpose of my God in giving the Law as "a light to the nations", but Jesus was not and is not my God or any god.

Jesus is the Messiah. A Jewish man sent by my God "to convey all of his commands." Deuteronomy 18:18

You worship and believe in the Antichrist, a false counterfeit Jesus who was and is always yet to come but is not, conjured from the depths of a mithraic Roman hell and violently unleashed on the world in 325CE by Caesar.

Grease is the word. At least thats what I heard.

 

[Quantrill]

And the word was theos, like God, who is called Ho Theos, The God, the only living God in existence. My God.

No. The Word was God. And the Word became flesh, Jesus Christ. Emmanuel. God with us. Jesus the God/Man.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word." (The Interlinear Bible, Hebrew-Greek-English, Jay P. Green, Sr., Hendrickson Publishers, 1985, p. 818)

(Isaiah 40:3) "The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God." Compare to:

(Matt. 3:3) "For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."

And who was John the Baptist preparing the way for? Jesus Christ...'the LORD', 'our God'. Both Jehovah, and Elohim. (John 1:29-30)

Also, (John 20:28) "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

Also, (Titus 2:13) "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ."

Also, (Acts 20:28) "...feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood." Whose blood?...Christ's...God's.

Scripture is clear. Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. The God/Man.

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[hobelim]

No. The Word was God. And the Word became flesh,

No, thats not what it says or means. "Flesh" was just a new metaphor for Divine teaching. Bread from heaven.

The word (of God), manna, bread from heaven, became "the flesh", teaching, of Jesus. You are just wrong.

Thats why Jesus said "eat my flesh", an easy command to accept his teaching that the words used in the Law are figurative, the subjects hidden and not necessarily directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used. The only thing that became obsolete about the Law after this revelation from God that came into the world through Jesus Christ, his "flesh" given for the life of the world, was the wrong way to follow it, not the Law itself.

You must eat his flesh, accept his teaching from God, and drink his blood, do it. Life is in the blood, in the doing.

You have provided the proof that the Law remains in effect and in full force. Now everyone here knows but you.

Like I said before, you are a very stupid man. Very interesting... but stupid. You do have my condolences.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus is throughout the Bible.

Go back and answer my questions.

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you have lied you are a christian - understandable yet judaism is no substitute for the truth.

when is the bible, the one including jesus written ... try again - liar.

 

[hobelim]

The Christian is to obey the powers that be.

Not according to my God, Moses, all of the prophets including Jesus, not to mention a lot of people out there.

 

[Quantrill]

No, thats not what it says or means. "Flesh" was just a new metaphor for Divine teaching. Bread from heaven.

The word (of God), manna, bread from heaven, became "the flesh", teaching, of Jesus. You are just wrong.

Thats why Jesus said "eat my flesh", an easy command to accept his teaching that the words used in the Law are figurative, the subjects hidden and not necessarily directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used. The only thing that became obsolete about the Law after this revelation from God that came into the world through Jesus Christ, his "flesh" given for the life of the world, was the wrong way to follow it, not the Law itself.

You must eat his flesh, accept his teaching from God, and drink his blood, do it. Life is in the blood, in the doing.

You have provided the proof that the Law remains in effect and in full force. Now everyone here knows but you.

Like I said before, you are a very stupid man. Very interesting... but stupid. You do have my condolences.

I have given you those who know the Greek as proof that that is what it says. (John 1:1) 'And God was the Word'.

I have given you Scriptures both Old and New Testament that proof Jesus is God. Post #(851)

Here is another. (Zechariah 12:1) "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD...." Jehovah is speaking.

(Zechariah 12:10) "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son...." Jehovah was pierced.

(Revelation 1:5-7) "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness...And hath made us kings and priests...Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him..." Jesus Christ was He Who was pierced, Jehovah.

Jesus Christ is God. He is the God/Man. Scripture is clear.

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[Quantrill]

when is the bible, the one including jesus written ... try again - liar.

I have already told you several times. The Bible was written from about 1450 B.C. to about 100 A.D.

Now answer my questions in post #(792).

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[hobelim]

I have given you
I have given you

You have only attempted murder through deception by trying to give me bread baked on fetid human dung. I live a kosher life and always have diligently stood guard over the sanctity of my own mind ever since childhood.


Who the **** do you think you're fooling?

 

[hobelim]

.Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him,

Good quote especially now since because I have come and spoken to you about where wrong and right and judgment lie, Jesus is emerging from the clouds that obscured him from sight for millennia. So I agree! Every eye shall see him, which, unfortunately for you, exposes you and every hapless worshipper of the Antichrist as either prisoners of deception, mind control, or actors and lying frauds. Didn't you hear the last loud trumpet blast? No?

Thats a shame.

If you can't "see" the real Jesus emerging from the clouds right now its because you have your reward already.

"Many shall purify themselves making themselves shining white but the wicked shall continue in wickedness and none of the shall understand (see)." Dan 12:10

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin but because you say, "We see" your guilt remains.

 

[Quantrill]

Good quote especially now since because I have come and spoken to you about where wrong and right and judgment lie, Jesus is emerging from the clouds that obscured him from sight for millennia. So I agree! Every eye shall see him, which, unfortunately for you, exposes you and every hapless worshipper of the Antichrist as either prisoners of deception, mind control, or actors and lying frauds. Didn't you hear the last loud trumpet blast? No?

Thats a shame.

If you can't "see" the real Jesus emerging from the clouds right now its because you have your reward already.

"Many shall purify themselves making themselves shining white but the wicked shall continue in wickedness and none of the shall understand (see)." Dan 12:10

If I had not come and spoken to you you would not be guilty of sin but because you say, "We see" your guilt remains.

Except you don't believe the Scriptures.

You have presented nothing in the Bible but perversion. I have showed you that the Scriptures, both Old and New present Jesus Christ as God. You deny that. You use the Scripture but you don't believe the Scripture.

Another lie. I have always been guilty of sin, and have said so. You on the other hand say you have no sin, making you a liar. (1 John 1:10) You stand in your own righteousness, not the righteousness of Christ. And your righteousness stinks to high heaven.

You have created a phony god, and you're a phony follower. And probably the only one. Who are your 'followers'? Do they all eat kosher pickles?

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[hobelim]

You have presented nothing in the Bible but perversion. I have showed you that the Scriptures, both Old and New present Jesus Christ as God. You deny that. You use the Scripture but you don't believe the Scripture.


Another lie. I have always been guilty of sin, and have said so. You on the other hand say you have no sin, making you a liar. (1 John 1:10) You stand in your own righteousness, not the righteousness of Christ. And your righteousness stinks to high heaven.

You have created a phony god, and you're a phony follower. And probably the only one. Who are your 'followers'? Do they all eat kosher pickles?

Like I said, "Many shall purify themselves making themselves shining white but the wicked shall continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand (none of them shall see or perceive)." Daniel 12:10

So go on and defy the Law of my God by turning to an imaginary trinity, a mangod, the Antichrist, for spiritual life which is idolatry, the penalty is death, a curse that you so perfectly display for all to see. FYI, Jesus dying on the cross in no way absolves you from suffering the consequences for your own words and deeds. Numbskull.


So don't get me wrong. I don't give two shits about your beliefs. I am only doing this for the benefit of the living.


So listen up. I will let you in on a little not so secret secret. You have been abandoned by my God to your folly.

He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.



Bottoms up!

 

[hobelim]

Except you don't believe the Scriptures.

Nonsense. I have no choice but to believe what I see with my own eyes. You are an idolator, the penalty for this sin is death, a curse that you so perfectly display for all to see. So I am a believer in scripture, I just don't believe your perverse interpretation of the words used. You are just a bad actor and lying fraud. And many will come to believe in my God because of your obstinate stupidity that you have mysteriously confused with faith in truth showing that my God reigns over the minds of all people either granting or denying comprehension. Life itself.

Well done!