Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

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that would explain it!

Truth be told, I don't think the story is literal. It's the story for the beginning of a new cult.

 

[Seymour Flops]

there were humans without souls?

That's my guess.

But, I'm probably wrong.

Still, there was something different about Adam and Eve to be created the way they were, first Adam and then Eve from Adam.

 

[BreezeWood]

life, all living beings on planet earth are related from the beginning - the jews or wherever the fables came from were either lied to or are for certain madeup stories and not from the heavens.

the 1st century explains more correctly the beginning -

Then they said, “Let us make life in our image, in our likeness, the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky the livestock and all the wild animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground.”

- moses was on another jew ego trip, jesus new better.

 

[norwegen]

There were human being before Adam and Eve. Their creation story is told in Genesis 1.

Adam and Eve were created in Genesis 2. By the separate description of Adam being created and then later Eve, the story shows something special about Adam and Eve different from the original humans.

Maybe they were the first humans with souls. Maybe they were pro-Jews in some way.

So when Cain was banished, he was banished to live with people outside of his specially created family.

That's how I read it. I'm no theologean or Biblical scholar.

I think you're on to something. The creation was covenantal.

Pro Jew in a sense. Jews' ancestors, according to the Bible. Not the ancestors of all humankind.

Pretty much the entire Bible is an autobiography of this particular people, and one of the first ones to put pen to paper knew little or nothing of nature or how the world worked. His intention seems mainly to impress upon his people that they were in covenant with God, the sun, moon, and stars serving merely as a backdrop.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I think you're on to something. The creation was covenantal.

Pro Jew in a sense. Jews' ancestors, according to the Bible. Not the ancestors of all humankind.

Yes, I meant to say "proto-Jews," but from your response, you clearly saw past that error. Probably not the best term to use.

I guess Abraham was the original Jew, but maybe A&E were the first "chosen people," or maybe their descendants were.

Pretty much the entire Bible is an autobiography of this particular people, and one of the first ones to put pen to paper knew little or nothing of nature or how the world worked. His intention seems mainly to impress upon his people that they were in covenant with God, the sun, moon, and stars serving merely as a backdrop.

Yes, that is how I read it.

 

[zaangalewa]

in the land of Nod?

I think this goes contrary to the first seven days in the Bible

The children of Adam and Eve married other human beings. You mix up biological evolution with spiritual creation. Very short: Would you really call every human being "human" - and would you never call any human being "animal" - totally independent from any thoughts about creation and/or evolution? It's not over yet - creation is still now, evolution is still now, redemption is still now ...

 

[GreatestIam]

they lived a very primitive existence without same sex marriage, fluid genders, or single mother households

You lie quite easily.

WHEN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WAS A CHRISTIAN RITE1

 

[Quantrill]

in the land of Nod?

I think this goes contrary to the first seven days in the Bible

No. Adam and Eve were the first human beings created. All humans come from Adam and Eve.

This has to be in order for all humans to be fallen in Adam. And for all to be made alive in Christ.

(1 Cor. 15:22) "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

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[GreatestIam]

This has to be in order for all humans to be fallen in Adam.

Yet Christians sing of Adam's sin as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. Would you refrain from sin and screw up Yahweh's plan?

 

[GreatestIam]

All humans come from Adam and Eve.

Too stupid to warrant a reply.

 

[hobelim]

Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?​

When the children of Adam and Eve wanted to find a mate, THEY WENT TO A CITY. What does that tell you?

 

[Quantrill]

Yet Christians sing of Adam's sin as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. Would you refrain from sin and screw up Yahweh's plan?

Where do Christians sing of Adam's sin as a happy fault?

No one screws up God's plan. All play into God's plan. Satan plays into God's plan, though that is not his purpose. He does so by his nature.

Just like you do not screw up God's plan. You play your part though you hate it. Must be frustrating.

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[Quantrill]

Too stupid to warrant a reply.

No, the stupid have no ability to reply. Which is why they don't reply. O' Gee...is that you? Where are your Bible verses now?

I thought you read and knew the Bible. Foolish me for believing you....which I did not.

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[Quantrill]

When the children of Adam and Eve wanted to find a mate, THEY WENT TO A CITY. What does that tell you?

Book, Chapter and Verse?

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[hobelim]

Book, Chapter and Verse?

OK, nice catch! Thanks! They didn't go to a city. In genesis Cain went to the land of Nod and built a city. Aside from that who was Cain afraid of being murdered by if there were no other people around and who was going to populate Cains city if there were no other people around? That was my point relative to the question of the OP.

Adam and Eve were obviously not the first human beings even according to Genesis where the talking serpent remains an obvious metaphor to this day for a despicable existing human archetype not unlike the big bad wolf.

If someone tries to convince you that you can set aside the command of God that prohibits idolatry, worship a Jewish man, and not die, you are standing before a direct descendant of that ever elusive talking serpent of old.

I would suggest avoiding making direct eye contact, back away very slowly, turn around, and then run like hell.

 

[Quantrill]

OK, nice catch! Thanks! They didn't go to a city. In genesis Cain went to the land of Nod and built a city. Aside from that who was Cain afraid of being murdered by if there were no other people around and who was going to populate Cains city if there were no other people around? That was my point relative to the question of the OP.

Adam and Eve were obviously not the first human beings even according to Genesis where the talking serpent remains an obvious metaphor to this day for a despicable existing human archetype not unlike the big bad wolf.

If someone tries to convince you that you can set aside the command of God that prohibits idolatry, worship a Jewish man, and not die, you are standing before a direct descendant of that ever elusive talking serpent of old.

I would suggest avoiding making direct eye contact, back away very slowly, turn around, and then run like hell.

Cain would have been afraid of being murdered by any who travelled throughout the earth to subdue it as commanded by God. (Gen. 1:28). And the age of man in those days could well reach to 1000 years. (Gen. 5:1-27) Cain knew there would be plenty of other people around in his lifetime who would know he murdered his brother.

The talking serpent is no proof that other humans existed. It shows that Satan indwelt the serpent and tempted Eve. (Rev. 12:9) "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world...." He had been in Eden, the garden of God. (Ezekiel 28:11-18) And God judged the serpent for being used by Satan, by having him crawl as he still does today, eating the dust of the earth. Meaning the Serpent wasn't always as he is today. In other words, the Serpent was no metaphor for another human being. (Gen. 3:14)

What commandment forbids the worship of the Jewish Man, Jesus Christ? Would it be (Psalm 2:1-12). Pay close attention to (Ps. 2:7)

I'm not worried. I stand before and address direct descendants of that serpent all the time. It's not me that runs like hell.

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[hobelim]

And the age of man in those days could well reach to 1000 years. (Gen. 5:1-27) Cain knew there would be plenty of other people around in his lifetime who would know he murdered his brother.

people could live for 1000 years?



Methuselah lived for 969 years. If you divide 969 by 12 you end up with about 81 years old, about twice the lifespan of most people living back then. Obviously the stories reflect a time when people used a lunar calendar.

 

[hobelim]

The talking serpent is no proof that other humans existed

Yes it is. No creature on earth other than a human being talks. The story was written to educate Hebrew children about the dangers of losing your mind for life to a cunning cult leader. The pharaoh wore a serpent on his head.

Behold a talking serpent!

 

[Quantrill]

people could live for 1000 years?



Methuselah lived for 969 years. If you divide 969 by 12 you end up with about 81 years old, about twice the lifespan of most people living back then. Obviously the stories reflect a time when people used a lunar calendar.

That's what it says. (Gen. 5:1-27) Near 1000 years old.

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[Quantrill]

Yes it is. No creature on earth other than a human being talks.

In (Gen. 3:1-5) there was a creature who talked. The serpent.

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