Were the Confederates traitors
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He didn't "order the war." He instructed the military to respond to an attack on a federal installation and put down a traitorous rebellion.
He choose to fight, when he did not have to.
You ever choose to have 600k people killed?
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Defending the Union was his job.
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The traitors in the so-called "confederacy" chose that.
No, correct. That amendment would have made slavery legal forever in the South only. It sounded good and Lincoln hoped it would stop the South from seceding, but Lincoln lied all the time.
He had already stated in a speech that the country would be all one way or the other. All slave or all free. He said, 'a house divided cannot stand'. Now he says he will protect slavery forever in the South. Total contradiction. He lied to hopefully get what he wanted at the time. But the South saw through his lies and rejected it.
Lincoln was already preparing for war and destroying the South. Thus no Corwin amendment would amount to anything. Destroy the South, and change the Constitution to fit the North. And so the traitor North did.
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5.) Theodore Parker--"A Unitarian preacher from Massachusetts. Parker became extremely active in the abolitionist cause....He was active in aiding fugitive slave to escape and even took part in some efforts to rescue runaways being taken back South. For one such episode he was indicted, but the case was dropped. He secretely backed John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry although he felt it would probably fail....He was not opposed to the breakup of the Union if it would eliminate the 'peculiar institution' in the United States. In 1859 he went abroad for medical reasons and died the next spring in Florence."
Another co-conspirator who was guilty of treason in supporting John Brown and his raid at Harpers Ferry. He had already been indicted for helping steal a slave who was being taken back South. But those yankee courts dropped the case. Just like those yankees let John Brown travel throughout the North getting arms and support for his raid on Harpers Ferry, though he was already wanted for murder.
Parker died in 1860 in Europe. But had he lived and returned, he would have been welcomed by the Lincoln traitor government now in place, just like the other traitors were.
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5.) Theodore Parker--"A Unitarian preacher from Massachusetts. Parker became extremely active in the abolitionist cause....He was active in aiding fugitive slave to escape and even took part in some efforts to rescue runaways being taken back South. For one such episode he was indicted, but the case was dropped. He secretely backed John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry although he felt it would probably fail....He was not opposed to the breakup of the Union if it would eliminate the 'peculiar institution' in the United States. In 1859 he went abroad for medical reasons and died the next spring in Florence."
Another co-conspirator who was guilty of treason in supporting John Brown and his raid at Harpers Ferry. He had already been indicted for helping steal a slave who was being taken back South. But those yankee courts dropped the case. Just like those yankees let John Brown travel throughout the North getting arms and support for his raid on Harpers Ferry, though he was already wanted for murder.
Parker died in 1860 in Europe. But had he lived and returned, he would have been welcomed by the Lincoln traitor government now in place, just like the other traitors were.
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True. But he could have decided that the cost was too high and just let them go.
Hell, he could have decided that he couldn't bring himself to order literally hundreds of thousands of men to their deaths.
THey both choose it.
you are ignoring my point. Lincoln was hard as hell on the confederates. He killed them by the hundreds of thousands.
For "men" today to pretend to be HARDER than him on this issue, is absurd.
They are children, gloating of battles that better men paid the price to win.
And when I say "children", I don't mean the smarter more mature children, that you would be proud to be a parent of.
I mean the ill mannered and foolish children, that like to bully smaller kids and eat paste.
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He didn't order anyone to die. He ordered the military to put down a treasonous rebellion for the sake of preserving the Union.
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No, Lincoln did not choose to fire on Fort Sumter. Lincoln did not choose to have the so-called "confederate" states pretend to secede.
Pretty weak defense, when a man is alone at night thinking about the results of his choices.
I am glad I don't have such choices staring me in the face, when I am trying to sleep.
And you are completely missing the point.
He choose to hold on to Fort Sumter, knowing that it was a provocation to the confederates.
And you are ignoring my point. Not sure why.
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Pretty accurate history.
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Knowing it was federal property, and that South Carolina was part of the UNITED States of America.
Cutting away my supporting argument, before addressing it?
That is the sign of a man that knows he has a weak position.
Could you give orders that you knew were going to result in hundreds of thousands of deaths?
Woudl you do it to hold on to Puerto Rico? Would you have been willing to fight a war to hold on to the Canal Zone?
South Carolina seceded and was no longer part of the United States. And Sumter and the forts went with her.
Lincoln's goal was to provoke the South to fire on Sumter first so that he and the North could posture themselves as defenders of the flag and freedom.
Lincoln's goal was war from the beginning. He just didn't want the blame for it.
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Your "supporting argument" was clumsy, 5th grade prose. You aren't the poet you want to believe you are.
You're welcome.
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