Were the Confederates traitors

[IM2]

You don’t get it

The Civil War was a war between Democrats and Republicans

My bad. I forgot.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

They should all have been hung as John Brown was. But, the tratiors now were in power.

Quantrill

Cheap-labor Republican Scrooges

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Continued from post #(614) The Secret Six:

#(2).. Gerritt Smith--" Although for the rest of his life Gerrit Smith denied vigorously any foreknowlege of John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry, the evidence is now quite clear that he was involved....Involved in many of the reform movements of the day, he concerntrated upon the antislavery issue. He aided runaways and was a member of the Kansas Aid Society...John Brown visited his home in early 1858, with his plan for freeing Virginia's slaves, and sought finacial as well as moral support. Both were given, it now appears, after a second visit in early 1859.

"Following the disaster at Harpers Ferry, Smith went into a state of temporary insanity. A believer in political action, he was closely linked with the Liberty party and was its candidate for a number of offices. As an independent he did sit in congress and during the Civil War he worked hard for the war effort, becoming a Republican....he signed the papers which freed Jefferson Davis." (Who Was Who in the Civl War, Stewart Sifakis, Facts On File Publications, 1988, p. 602)

Wow. Co-conspirator with John Brown in treason. Instead of being charged and hung as a traitor, he later became a Congressman. Just like with Sterns, the traitors were in power, thus traitors go free and then obtain notable positions.

Don't let his signing papers to let Jefferson Davis go free mean anything. It was a political move to help Chase and the Government out and get Davis out of their hair.

John Browns body is swinging on the gallows. Can almost hear the creaking of timbers as he swings back and forth. But Geritt Smith, co-conspirator goes free. Because the traitors are now in power.

Quantrill

Wall Street was behind the Secret Six

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Check out the song "Oh I'm A Good Ole Rebel" by Bobby Horton. It should be our national anthem.

Quantrill

In Vietnam, Southerners were the best Marines I served with

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Oh, and the slave trade by American bottoms was banned in 1794 just eighteen years after the formation of the USA and the importation of slaves into the USA was banned in 1808.

To be fair, the Founding Fodder also should have banned the importation of desperately poor Europeans to work in Northern sweatshops

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The British support was all unofficial, but the aristocracy provided weapons, loans and every support short of war to the Confederacy. They didn't want a UNITED States because it was a threat to the Empire, they wanted North America to be balkanized and focused on internal squabbling like Europe was.

Birth-Class Supremacy

So does the American heiristocracy now. Its Right Wing approves of what its Left Wing has been doing ever since Preppy Prettyboy took over in 1961.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And those stupid traitor sons of bitches didn't take the opportunity, so the 13th Amendment became something quite different.

Stupid traitors.

Traitors are those who teach foreign sleeper cells English.

 

[Fang]

Do you guys ever get tired of posting disingenuous bs?

Do you ever get tired of ignoring facts?

During the U.S. Civil War (1861–1865), the majority political power in the South was held by the Democratic Party, specifically the pro-slavery Southern Democrats.

Here’s the breakdown:

• Southern Democrats dominated politics in the South before and during the Civil War. They strongly supported the institution of slavery and states’ rights.
• When Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, was elected president in 1860 on an anti-slavery expansion platform, most Southern states seceded from the Union.
• These seceding states formed the Confederate States of America, led by Jefferson Davis (a Democrat from Mississippi).

Meanwhile, the Republican Party—new at the time—was dominant in the North and opposed the expansion of slavery, which fueled the sectional divide.

 

[Unkotare]

Traitors are those who teach foreign sleeper cells English.

How would one know someone is part of a sleeper cell if they were in a sleeper cell?

 

[Unkotare]

Birth-Class Supremacy

So does the American heiristocracy now. Its Right Wing approves of what its Left Wing has been doing ever since Preppy Prettyboy took over in 1961.

Broken record ^^^

 

[Quantrill]

South violated the Constitution for breaking away from the UNITED States

If our founders wanted you to join and drop out at will they would have made provisions

There are provisions to join nothing on how to withdraw

The 10th Amendment says differently, as I have proved several times already. You say alot, but prove nothing.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

The South had the problem.

The South's problem was that the treasoness North was unwilling to obey the Constitution. The South was doing nothing wrong.

Instead of waiting for slavery to eventually die off, which all knew it would, and instead of seeking to go through the political process of changing the Constitution, the law breaking North opted for war.

That way the North gets to destroy the South and then change the Constitution to fit their interests.

Quantrill

 

[IM2]

The South's problem was that the treasoness North was unwilling to obey the Constitution. The South was doing nothing wrong.

Instead of waiting for slavery to eventually die off, which all knew it would, and instead of seeking to go through the political process of changing the Constitution, the law breaking North opted for war.

That way the North gets to destroy the South and then change the Constitution to fit their interests.

Quantrill

Incorrect. It's funny hw whites like you think. Whites didn't wait for freedom. Nobody else needed to either. The North proposed a constitutional amendment protecting slavery to keep the South from seceding. It's called the Corwin Amendment. So STFU.

 

[Unkotare]

The South's problem was that the treasoness North was unwilling to obey the Constitution. The South was doing nothing wrong.

Instead of waiting for slavery to eventually die off, which all knew it would, and instead of seeking to go through the political process of changing the Constitution, the law breaking North opted for war.

That way the North gets to destroy the South and then change the Constitution to fit their interests.

Quantrill

Repeating your lies doesn't make them truths, wannabe.

 

[Unkotare]

Incorrect. It's funny hw whites like you think. Whites didn't wait for freedom. Nobody else needed to either. The North proposed a constitutional amendment protecting slavery to keep the South from seceding. It's called the Corwin Amendment. So STFU.

YOUR racism doesn't offset HIS racism, hypocrite.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

It's not an analogy. It's the same thing. Except, it's not history, it's current events.


We wouldn't kill THESE Americans if they vote to leave, but we pretend that if we were in the past, that we would have been happy to fight and die to stop other Americans from leaving.

This shows that the... faux outrage over secession, is bullshit. AND further more shows how and why even the Americans that actualluy were willing to fight and die to stop that secession,


afterwards, didn't have the... faux outrage that the the modern left has indoctrinated this generation of Americans to have about it, becuase of the connection to slavery.


THe opinion that secession was a Right, was a REASONABLE opinion to have, and even the Union soliders who disagreed, were willing to put that disagreement behind them, after teh war, because it was settled.

Today, the... weird long after the fact HATE that so many have about this, has nothing to do with the actual facts of that time, in the context of that time.


This is about pumping up SLAVERY , as some sort of American Original Sin, so that the left can use it, to smear AMERICA as a whole and try to define US as somehow "bad".


**** that shit. It is retarded nonsense.

They were traitors. End of story. Again. Lincoln pardoned them because he knew to deny that pardon would have meant the end of the Union. I'm not sure why you keep running back to this Trumpian mantra of talking about and discussing slavery as "bad"? It's part of our nation's history. It's why the South started the Civil War.

 

[Correll]

They were traitors. End of story. Again. Lincoln pardoned them because he knew to deny that pardon would have meant the end of the Union. I'm not sure why you keep running back to this Trumpian mantra of talking about and discussing slavery as "bad"? It's part of our nation's history. It's why the South started the Civil War.

You're being harder on this, then the man that ordered the war that killed 600,000 Americans.


That's not reasonable or rational. Especially so long after the war.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

You're being harder on this, then the man that ordered the war that killed 600,000 Americans.


That's not reasonable or rational. Especially so long after the war.

Which the man didn't start. And the opposition kept going...long after they could have laid down their arms and just accepted the fact that black people were free...to be free.

The original OP question was "are they traitors?". The answer is yes.

 

[Unkotare]

...the man that ordered the war that killed 600,000 Americans.


....

And who do you believe that to be?

 

[Correll]

Which the man didn't start. And the opposition kept going...long after they could have laid down their arms and just accepted the fact that black people were free...to be free.

The original OP question was "are they traitors?". The answer is yes.

I didn't say he started it, but he was willing to wage it and killed 600k Americans and HE thought that forgiveness was the right policy.

You this hard on anyone else in the world? Or is it only white Americans that you are this mean with?